Rumour Multiple GWS players are set to be suspended to start the 2025 season after distasteful costumes and skits from their post-season function

[burge13]

Fining Toby Greene is the most bizarre thing to me, I don't recall Riewoldt being fined when St Kilda set fire to a dwarf.

Only $3k in fines for lighting a dwarf on fire

St Kilda's Clinton Jones fined for setting dwarf entertainer alight

St Kilda midfielder Clinton Jones has apologised to the entertainer he set on fire during so-called 'Mad Monday' celebrations. Jones, used a gas lighter to set the clothes of dwarf entertainer, Blake Johnston, on fire at the function in South Melbourne yesterday. St Kilda has fined Jones $3000.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Bombermania]

20 years ago we wouldnt think twice about things we said. Today. Well lets say Im talking to someone at work, espexially if its a woman. Im thinking multiple situations about how what I am thinking about saying could be interpreted. In the end I say nothing or remain incredibly terse. Even the most innocupus commemts can land you in HR

The Sexual Discrimination Act was passed in 1984, HR would have responded to any complaint 20 years ago. It was in the late 1980s or early 1990s when worksites had to remove girly pictures from men's toilets. Depending on the industry, 20 years ago, there were HR departments that were hypersensitive, and quick to issue warnings.

 

[Underarm]

yep it will be forced now underground with Bikie like protection and even worse crap will happen but now it will really be private. I swear to god people are becoming offended by their own shadow these days.

I know they both start with 'S', but 'shadows' and Sexual assault are 2 completely different things.

 

[burge13]

I know they both start with 'S', but 'shadows' and Sexual assault are 2 completely different things.

But the players didn't assault anyone. No one would be defending that

 

[greatwhiteshark]

I know they both start with 'S', but 'shadows' and Sexual assault are 2 completely different things.

Has there been a sexual assault though?

 

[FreoRicci]

GWS players getting fined/suspdended at a private function.

Greene dressed up as Raygun? So? Who the **** cares.

Meanwhile, Tyson Stengle

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getting blind drunk straight off the plane on the night of a game then going to hospital. To only play that week.

The inconsistency of AFL.

 

[Mofra]

GWS players getting fined/suspdended at a private function.

Greene dressed up as Raygun? So? Who the **** cares.

Meanwhile, Tyson Stengle getting blind drunk straight off the plane on the night of a game then going to hospital. To only play that week.

The inconsistency of AFL.

I doubt Raygun is the issue. The Twin Towers stuff may well be a NBA reference as well.

I'd guess the P Diddy/Hayne stuff is the issue and the AFL only care about optics and cash so if a sponsor has complained, they're screwed.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

I doubt Raygun is the issue. The Twin Towers stuff may well be a NBA reference as well.

I'd guess the P Diddy/Hayne stuff is the issue and the AFL only care about optics and cash so if a sponsor has complained, they're screwed.

The PA won't wear these fines for their players and unless something serious happened that we don't know of yet then game suspensions won't be accepted by the PA either and they will fight it in court.
Private time is private time.

 

[JHF1870]

Really hoping GWAS have a period of media blackout

 

[burge13]

GWS players getting fined/suspdended at a private function.

Greene dressed up as Raygun? So? Who the **** cares.

Meanwhile, Tyson Stengle getting blind drunk straight off the plane on the night of a game then going to hospital. To only play that week.

The inconsistency of AFL.

Completely sweeping Stengle under the rug (and a lot of Oliver stuff) but overreacting here could lead to spectacular fight backs from players. Popcorn ready if GWS have any balls

De Goey spent a night in the slammer in NY and got in less trouble than this. It's a remarkable carry on

 

[Cyclonus]

I would simply state I'm not paying the fine.

 

[lusheslewis]

I would simply state I'm not paying the fine.

This would be as effective as telling a judge "I'm not going to jail".

 

[Cyclonus]

This would be as effective as telling a judge "I'm not going to jail".

Okay.

 

[justlookingaround]

I don't think the twin towers could ever be portrayed in any comedic way.

Not posturing on what is right or wrong on this topic, but Zoomers definitely feel differently about this.
9/11 is a certified meme for kids nowadays.

 

[iameviljez]

Any staff choosing to work a Wacky Wednesday should expect to see some silly behaviour. But there's no hint that staff members were threatened or abused.

A duty of care wouldn't extend to employees being offended. It would be like staff at a strip show (male or female) being offended by nakedness. If the venue had an issue with the players' behaviour they could have asked them to leave. But it seems it wasn't the venue that complained, it was an individual.

Edit - Apparently, the bartender who made a complaint didn't actually see what happened first hand. They went out of the way to watch it on CCTV so they could be offended.

I would be hesitant about believing that thing about the CCTV.

Look, this staff member isn’t exactly signing up to work a dark comedy club. They pull beers at a pub, and sexual assault skits - the likely culprit - aren’t on the menu.

 

[iameviljez]

I don't think the twin towers could ever be portrayed in any comedic way.

It depends entirely on who is in the room.

Frankie Boyle did one of, “Is it a bird? Is it a plane? Whatever it is - it’s heading straight for the World Trade Center…”

 

[iameviljez]

A whole lotta Boys will be Boys in here.

What’s offensive, and what’s not, depends on who is in the room. The jokes I can make with my best mate, with workmates, with family, if I’m in a public place, if I am at a comedy gig - are all different.

Bar staff are in the room here and don’t deserve this shit. You want to say whatever you like about sexual assault, do it at someone’s house or something.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

A whole lotta Boys will be Boys in here.

What’s offensive, and what’s not, depends on who is in the room. The jokes I can make with my best mate, with workmates, with family, if I’m in a public place, if I am at a comedy gig - are all different.

Bar staff are in the room here and don’t deserve this shit. You want to say whatever you like about sexual assault, do it at someone’s house or something.

Or you could just do your job and mind your own business and stop being offended by everything.

 

[lusheslewis]

A whole lotta Boys will be Boys in here.

What’s offensive, and what’s not, depends on who is in the room. The jokes I can make with my best mate, with workmates, with family, if I’m in a public place, if I am at a comedy gig - are all different.

Bar staff are in the room here and don’t deserve this shit. You want to say whatever you like about sexual assault, do it at someone’s house or something.

What about twin towers dress ups? Offensive to bar staff or acceptable?

If there's six players suspended seems like those two have also copped it.

 

[Cyclonus]

Twin Towers? Reminds me of that tragedy.

 

[almuz]

9/11 jokes in the 90's???

Yeah I remember it clearly, I was at a party in 1997 and dropped a great 9/11 joke - even the wokest snowflakes in the group just stared at me blankly.

Simpler times.

 

[Bagger72]

Exposing someone to actions they find offensive while they are at work is, though. And acting in a way contrary to your employee code of conduct at a work function is as well.

Telling people to "suck it up" and downplaying their emotions is disastrous for mental health.

You just hurt my feelings with that post and I will be suffering mental health issues for the rest of my life and you need to compensate me.

 

[iameviljez]

What about twin towers dress ups? Offensive to bar staff or acceptable?

If there's six players suspended seems like those two have also copped it.

No idea.

Maybe, maybe not. What if one of them was a New Yorker?

 

[iameviljez]

Or you could just do your job and mind your own business and stop being offended by everything.

“Do your job” meaning “know your place, servant boy”

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Has the venue been named yet? surely someone has leaked it on reddit or social media.

Deserves to go out of business