And if it had just been them, say, at someone's house, or somewhere self-catered, honestly I doubt any bar the pearliest of pearl-clutchers would care.
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Rumour Multiple GWS players are set to be suspended to start the 2025 season after distasteful costumes and skits from their post-season function
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It wasn't a private setting, they were still in a public venue, a private setting would be a house.
Thing with offensive humour is you gotta be able to do it well, otherwise its just offensive and not funny at all.
A good comedian can do that well, a bunch of footballers? likely not.
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The word "woke" has appeared in this thread almost 100 times. The enlightened free-thinkers are out in full force it would seem.
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Love to know the mental gymnastics Dillon employed fining Connor Idun. Wonder if he feels Jamie Foxx should face some sort of reprimand for his role in Django Unchained?
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It sounds to me like the AFL are being racist campaigners as far as Connor Idun is concerned, and he should sue them.
What did it say 7 years for? For aids it was 22.3 years, which 9/11 has also still reached.
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‘Regurgitating feminist propaganda’ how exactly? Did I say something incorrect?
Child murders? What? Are you ok?
Turn off or turn away. Like the bartender could have
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I mean, it was probably against venue behaviour policy. If it was found they didn't say anything, they could lose their job.
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Your insulted about how serious the issue of DV is? My god. You’re pretty easily offended
It's an interesting one, isn't it?
Like, I can hear Jim Jeffries and Jimmy Carr tell exactly the same filthy misogynist joke. And yet I'll laugh along with Jimmy Carr, but while I'll laugh a little at Jim Jeffries, I admit to shifting a little more in the seat.
There's this nuance in Jimmy's delivery that makes it forgiveable; Jim Jeffries, sometimes, you suspect that deep down he might mean it.
There's a pretty good local comedian called Alice Fraser who said it well in a discussion I saw - effectively, that anything can be joked about, and anything can be funny, but it can't be joked about by anyone, to anybody, in any situation, told any way. Delivery, deliverer, audience, setting, all matter.
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the analogy is correct. an usher at a comedy show doesn't pay to hear the comedian. they are doing their job.
a bartender at a private "mad monday" function where everyone knows the players dress up and drink too much should mind their own business and pour the drinks. if they can't handle that they should get a new job.
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Sue them Idun.
No he or she couldn't have. They are low-paid employees who don't have any real power in this situation. You can't just tell the shift manager that hey, I'm walking away from this section and there's nothing you can do about it.
Working at a comedy club is different to working at a pub.
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It was a private setting in a public venue. You are arguing semantics, but they’ve paid for that private setting. Im
Happy for the AFL to reprimand players if they must, but the punishment (especially to the person they’ve spat out of the system which was my major issue no one seems to want to quote) does not fit the crime
Oh snap! Where did I get 7 from. One of the greatest episodes
What a load of shit of course he can. “Hey mate, I’m not comfortable with the behaviour here, can I move to another area or can you talk to the organiser and get them to tone it down” “na mate they’ve dropped 10k over the bar suck it up” if the shift manager doesn’t act then they’re breaking licensing laws.
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The same can be said for those who morally gloat from sock-pocket accounts.
Highly likely (depending on what was done) that this is true.
It is hard to say for sure in an information vacuum, but IMO the way to manage this would have been to start with apologies directly to the staff in question, privately issued fines if deemed appropriate, possibly a bit of community service really wouldn't kill these guys.
Cam Guthrie quite infamously worked at Cold Rock over the summer one year to keep himself 'grounded'. This is why that's a good idea for a lot of athletes.
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Not going to get in the whole debate about culture.
Just going to say I don't think the AFL, as the governing body, should be suspending or fining players. It should be up to the club itself. It was their function, their players, their reputation.
The AFL just gave themselves a slippery slope to consistently fail at.
Just going to say I don't think the AFL, as the governing body, should be suspending or fining players. It should be up to the club itself. It was their function, their players, their reputation.
The AFL just gave themselves a slippery slope to consistently fail at.
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Do the players own the venue?
Does the bartender answer to the players? Is he/she employed by the players?
No, the players are at THEIR place of work and have to follow THEIR works policies. Bartenders are responsible for RSA, they aren't just servants who should do what they are told.
Have you ever actually worked hospo? Workers are worth barely a pinch of shit in that business, they are treated as completely disposable, the whole Merivale scandal shows it.
AFAIK licensing laws in this case - if they are ever actually enforced - deal solely with serving already drunk patrons.
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The players were serving themselves … no bar staff
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