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Wasn’t Ollie Murphy also a Vic Metro MVP?
Seems like we are trying to break the VM hoodoo.
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It’s just a numbers game someone had to slip.
Top 11 players taken were all just a which order do they fall throw in Faull going early …..we were always going to have 5 pretty good options to choose from.
Once Faull fell …..I was happy - Berry, Allan or Reid …..it was an autopilot pick.
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The only reason Wallz couldn't yell the name out as soon as the timer started was because they just opened the line to the buffet.
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Pends what you think our main problems are and I think it’s high end grunt and our pressure is diabolical so burning all 3 1sts on this kid and Bolton has done less than zero to address any of that in fact we will be worse
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They’ve only got four list spots left. Two of those are committed to redrafting rookies, whilst I’m pretty sure they’re taking Sam Day in the PSD.
Seems very likely some of those picks are being given away quite cheaply.
If I were them I’d target the teams picking from 41-45. See if anyone is tempted to get an extra draft pick for moving one or two spots down the draft order.
F3s once they’ve moved up as far as they can.
What a BS system this is btw - This is all possible whilst getting Ashcroft whilst winning the flag and trading out nothing but a F2 and a fringe mid.
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Obviously disappointed to miss out on Berry, but Reid does look extremely classy. Could be like having a second Young in a few years. The way he moves like everyone else is in slow-motion makes me think it's time to dust off the old #16.
Absolutely spewing GWS took Angove so early, especially when they've got Greene, Daniels, Jones and now Hannaford as well.
Hoping for Clarke or Davis tomorrow, could live with taking a Shanahan and Gerreyn if they're still there and we're comfortable with the small options later.
Absolutely spewing GWS took Angove so early, especially when they've got Greene, Daniels, Jones and now Hannaford as well.
Hoping for Clarke or Davis tomorrow, could live with taking a Shanahan and Gerreyn if they're still there and we're comfortable with the small options later.
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Like when we convinced Richmond Baker was worth pick 14 and West Coast had to split 3 to get it? That kind of thing?
Payback for that yeah. Though it does seem a little less targeted if old mate phil has any truth to what he was saying
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Sorry I got to your second post on this a bit later, late to the party tonight. Certainly seems like we were ok to get any one of those three. I guess there is less pressure as you didn't have a choice on which one you get.
Late to the party but I had previously argued that we should sit and wait and see what falls out of the Top 10 as others get greedy for list balancing. That has happened and Reid has become available where previously I thought he was no hope to at our pick (For me he was an entrenched Top 10 on talent and potential). So I am happy with the strategy, I think we got much better value than a pick 14 excluding F/S deserved.
Whether he can be amazing or not will be down to a heap of other factors but from watching the U18 championships I think he brings a differentiator from many of our other players by being a super smart forward of centre player and able to deliver to dangerous forward positions combined with being a good runner.
No player we took this draft was going to be a walk in "best 22" (not even if Lalor would have been) but honestly if we had to learn anything from this season just gone is that you need a firing and talented best 30. There is a good chance he will be "very useful" in the seasons to come.
I would love if we did the same for pick 33ish as I think already there is some crazy good talent that probably won't fit a list need still sitting on the table at that point (My mind in particular screams Hamish Davis - how can he still be on the table!?!?!), but my gut tells me that we may draft for positional needs a bit more.
Whether he can be amazing or not will be down to a heap of other factors but from watching the U18 championships I think he brings a differentiator from many of our other players by being a super smart forward of centre player and able to deliver to dangerous forward positions combined with being a good runner.
No player we took this draft was going to be a walk in "best 22" (not even if Lalor would have been) but honestly if we had to learn anything from this season just gone is that you need a firing and talented best 30. There is a good chance he will be "very useful" in the seasons to come.
I would love if we did the same for pick 33ish as I think already there is some crazy good talent that probably won't fit a list need still sitting on the table at that point (My mind in particular screams Hamish Davis - how can he still be on the table!?!?!), but my gut tells me that we may draft for positional needs a bit more.
It’s just not true that we haven’t drafted an elite rated player from metro area of Melbourne since Andy Brayshaw.
It’s a complete red herring issue that has no basis in fact.
Dandenong stingrays are part of vic country for footy purposes only - purely because vic metro would be too strong if they were actually playing with the rest of the city catchment.
Dandenong, Cranbourne, Pakenham, Frankston, the peninsula - it’s all outer Melbourne. There aren’t many 1000 cow dairy farms in Dandenong!
Cooper Simpson is technically Vic country in football terms, as is Sam Sturt and Hayden Young. All from the stingrays. But they are all Melbourne suburbanites.
There’s no reason whatsoever they would be more or less likely to leave freo due to homesickness than players like Ollie Murphy or Adam Cerra or Luke Ryan or Switta (all vic metro)
Every case is different.
I do think there is some small merit to the theory that guys from “proper” vic country, such as Caleb Serong (Inverloch/warragul) and Sean Darcy (Cobden) or Josh Treacy (Cohuna), all growing up 2-3 hours from Melbourne at some point if their lives, might be more prepared for the move interstate at draft time, because they often move into boarding schools for footy but the effect is marginal at best and it’s probably grossly over exaggerated by the AFL media.
Lachie Schultz was from Echuca/Moama, 3 hours from Melbourne and he went home.
Lets not even mention all the WA players we have lost to trade requests…
It’s a complete red herring issue that has no basis in fact.
Dandenong stingrays are part of vic country for footy purposes only - purely because vic metro would be too strong if they were actually playing with the rest of the city catchment.
Dandenong, Cranbourne, Pakenham, Frankston, the peninsula - it’s all outer Melbourne. There aren’t many 1000 cow dairy farms in Dandenong!
Cooper Simpson is technically Vic country in football terms, as is Sam Sturt and Hayden Young. All from the stingrays. But they are all Melbourne suburbanites.
There’s no reason whatsoever they would be more or less likely to leave freo due to homesickness than players like Ollie Murphy or Adam Cerra or Luke Ryan or Switta (all vic metro)
Every case is different.
I do think there is some small merit to the theory that guys from “proper” vic country, such as Caleb Serong (Inverloch/warragul) and Sean Darcy (Cobden) or Josh Treacy (Cohuna), all growing up 2-3 hours from Melbourne at some point if their lives, might be more prepared for the move interstate at draft time, because they often move into boarding schools for footy but the effect is marginal at best and it’s probably grossly over exaggerated by the AFL media.
Lachie Schultz was from Echuca/Moama, 3 hours from Melbourne and he went home.
Lets not even mention all the WA players we have lost to trade requests…
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Just a few general thoughts…
I get what Sydney were thinking. There was a bit of talk that they were into Faull, so I reckon they’d have picked him. But heading into the draft, I was expecting a run on talls between 30 and 40. The thinking being that someone like Gerreyn, Nicholls, O’Farrell, Mraz or Sims isn’t that far behind the top group - so get a decent small first, then pick up a tall you like in the second/third round. Guys like West and Stumpf could come into the second round mix too. So good chance teams like Port and Sydney both thought to take the risk and hit that tonight.
I won’t give GWS the same benefit though. They just give off the vibe that they think they’re smarter than everyone. I like Oliver, but Angove was clearly planned so why take Hannaford too.
I’m not sure how I view Richmond’s haul. In isolation, I like each pick - but as a whole, it leaves me wanting. I think it was a high risk draft and I don’t really rate their player development. But they clearly won the horrible North trade.
Second round thoughts? My top two for us would be Shanahan and Clarke. It’s unlikely Shanahan gets much further I’d have thought, and Clarke has likely suitors in the Bulldogs and Port. So we’ll see. If they’re both gone? I do really like Davis, but I could see us pulling the trigger on Toner given the obvious interest in Berry.
I get what Sydney were thinking. There was a bit of talk that they were into Faull, so I reckon they’d have picked him. But heading into the draft, I was expecting a run on talls between 30 and 40. The thinking being that someone like Gerreyn, Nicholls, O’Farrell, Mraz or Sims isn’t that far behind the top group - so get a decent small first, then pick up a tall you like in the second/third round. Guys like West and Stumpf could come into the second round mix too. So good chance teams like Port and Sydney both thought to take the risk and hit that tonight.
I won’t give GWS the same benefit though. They just give off the vibe that they think they’re smarter than everyone. I like Oliver, but Angove was clearly planned so why take Hannaford too.
I’m not sure how I view Richmond’s haul. In isolation, I like each pick - but as a whole, it leaves me wanting. I think it was a high risk draft and I don’t really rate their player development. But they clearly won the horrible North trade.
Second round thoughts? My top two for us would be Shanahan and Clarke. It’s unlikely Shanahan gets much further I’d have thought, and Clarke has likely suitors in the Bulldogs and Port. So we’ll see. If they’re both gone? I do really like Davis, but I could see us pulling the trigger on Toner given the obvious interest in Berry.
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Injury ankle in the grand final.I could only speculate but he's 182cm which is small for a mid, and he is coming off some sort of knee injury
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Hasn’t changed Fyfes lack of defensive efforts
I might be a bit silly but sometimes a player can a certain role in juniors and another role at seniors.
Talent is talent.
I mean the earlier picks of that remaining range. Bit technical there. My point is they have 3 picks in the 40’s and I’d like us to target 1 (likely 48 or 49) of them for our Freo F3.
Even 56 for F4 is another option. After that not much point. I can’t see our 62 moving too much further forward - maybe 2-3 spots.
Obviously depends on what is available but Walls said there are a heap of names available that he is interested in.
This year giving up a strong draft hand for Shai Bolton feels like a real sliding doors moment for the club given the strength of the draft. Berry , Bo etc going just before our pick
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