Prediction National Draft 2024

[mattis117]

I think Reid was clearly the best pick at this point by a country mile.

I'm still a bit annoyed that the club seems not to prioritise small forward because I think that's the key point our list fails and they are important in finals.

But that's more on the trade and not keeping pick 10 or 11 rather than the drafting of Reid.

Don't agree on priorities, you cant reach for things that aren't there in the first round.

All in on Pickett to fill the final void in this team.

 

[Joao]

I think Reid was clearly the best pick at this point by a country mile.

I'm still a bit annoyed that the club seems not to prioritise small forward because I think that's the key point our list fails and they are important in finals.

But that's more on the trade and not keeping pick 10 or 11 rather than the drafting of Reid.

We dropped 10 and 11 on a small forward last month to be fair to the club.

 

[Hamann188]

Yea I fully get the line of thinking and it still crosses my mind but our club and culture are in a different place now - a very good place

As others alluded to under Caleb and Andy (I’ll add youngy to this too) players buy in. Straight up, especially the younger cohort.

And a big factor in that is they’re all vic boys themselves- easy for a vic boy to relate when the people selling you the idea once came from the same position you find yourself in .

Note- when asked who he was most looking fwd to meeting at freo Reid said Andy and I’d assume a big part of that is brayshaw is a former Sandringham boy himself.

In all likelihood Andy will probably be his mentor in the early years, honestly you couldn’t get a better player or person to learn off than that .

And finally on an early gettable episode where Reid was being interviewed he mention he’s mates with Ollie Murphy and caught up with him over here during the champs and basically picked his brains on his move over to freo so it shows the kid was certainly open to the possibility of playing outside vic

Good enough for me mate. I'm sold.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Don't agree on priorities, you cant reach for things that aren't there in the first round.

All in on Pickett to fill the final void in this team.

Yeah, if I'm honest with myself the only reason I'd want Warner now is so WC don't get him haha. The gain on getting a Pickett into this team is so much higher IMO.

 

[aussierulesrules]

I think Reid was clearly the best pick at this point by a country mile.

I'm still a bit annoyed that the club seems not to prioritise small forward because I think that's the key point our list fails and they are important in finals.

The reason Reid didn’t go as high as the others who played midfield to the sort of level that he did this year was reportedly because some clubs see him as more of a small forward at AFL level, so you may have addressed that need without realising it.

 

[arsesmart]

We dropped 10 and 11 on a small forward last month to be fair to the club.

10/11 + 18 was a more than fair price though. Oh well, can’t turn back time (please no gifs), but Port looked locked in on Berry from a long way back. Murphy seems like he could get some effective minutes in ‘25 nonetheless. Oh and his folks should get regular suite at Crown Towers for them.

 

[Lach72]

Pickett makes more sense for us now.

But I’d still love Chad

 

[Docker82]

Logue was pick 8 wasn't he? That was a failure, was Walls the Boss then?

Tbf that draft wasn't great.

Amazing we got Darcy, Cox and Ryan from that draft given there was probably only 10-12 genuinely good players drafted after pick 5 that year.

 

[Paracleet]

I enjoyed Twomey's idiot offsider Beveridge (how does he have a job there? Is he related to someone of influence? Must be a lot of influence given not only does he not know anything, they let him on camera looking like they didn't have time to redress him properly after he was plucked straight from an 80s bogan theme party. Even has the rapist moustache) talking up Melbourne's apparent 'success' in managing to take 12 first rounders in the last 5 years despite winning a flag in one of them.

What he didn't mention:

• Only 3 was a top 10 pick (one top 5)
• One of those top tens has already left (the top five pick)
• Four of them are picks post 18 (as in second rounders in the good old days)
• Two at least are likely busts
• Excluding the 2 from yesterday as we don't know yet, of the players they still have, arguably only 1 is projecting as an A grader.

 

[Hammersoup]

Brayshaw isn’t going anywhere and Reid will be living with Andy until Freo find him a permanent home. Pickett had one last catch up with Freo while in WA for the GWABA football carnival down south. I’d say he will be traded into Freo next year.

I heard this this as well. It does sound like Pickett mindset is in constant flux.

 

[mattis117]

Just on North - it's easy to take pot shots but there is logic to what they're doing. It is difficult to place value on time. All these discussions always centre on this fictitious points value for picks. It doesn't really matter if it's pick 27 vs. pick 8. There are other factors that come into it, not limited to differences in talent between drafts, where a list is at, and time to develop players.

Clearly North think they're almost finished with their rebuild and they're prioritising getting players now to expedite development.

They could easily jump up to mid-table next year. They still have significant concerns with KPPs while having a tonne of midfield talent. It makes perfect sense to me that they would choose to grab a tall this year no matter the future cost.

I think North did well to be honest. I am more baffled by the Saints and GWS. Their selections are a little bit odd considering where their lists are at. Saints are desperate for mids, albiet I can understand that a player like Tauru is very tough to pass on.

On Reid, I think we'll get him and Simpson into our HFFs pretty quick and repurpose other players like Freddie and Switta. That elite decision making and execution at half-forward will transform the team.

There are a number of players like Wagner, JOM, Aish, and Banfield who will be finding it tough to get into this team next year. Pressure will start to be applied to Freddie, Switta, Sturt to hold their spots. Walters I can't see getting a game but he's basically a coach, so no problems there.

 

[mattis117]

The reason Reid didn’t go as high as the others who played midfield to the sort of level that he did this year was reportedly because some clubs see him as more of a small forward at AFL level, so you may have addressed that need without realising it.

I'm sure the club realise it, it's just us on BigFooty that are catching up!

 

[Spirit Level]

So now we don't have Berry we have to be aggressive with Pickett huh?

 

[Lach72]

Just on North - it's easy to take pot shots but there is logic to what they're doing. It is difficult to place value on time. All these discussions always centre on this fictitious points value for picks. It doesn't really matter if it's pick 27 vs. pick 8. There are other factors that come into it, not limited to differences in talent between drafts, where a list is at, and time to develop players.

Clearly North think they're almost finished with their rebuild and they're prioritising getting players now to expedite development.

They could easily jump up to mid-table next year. They still have significant concerns with KPPs while having a tonne of midfield talent. It makes perfect sense to me that they would choose to grab a tall this year no matter the future cost.

I think North did well to be honest. I am more baffled by the Saints and GWS. Their selections are a little bit odd considering where their lists are at. Saints are desperate for mids, albiet I can understand that a player like Tauru is very tough to pass on.

On Reid, I think we'll get him and Simpson into our HFFs pretty quick and repurpose other players like Freddie and Switta. That elite decision making and execution at half-forward will transform the team.

There are a number of players like Wagner, JOM, Aish, and Banfield who will be finding it tough to get into this team next year. Pressure will start to be applied to Freddie, Switta, Sturt to hold their spots. Walters I can't see getting a game but he's basically a coach, so no problems there.

I dunno .
Midfield is not the issue with Norf. They’ve invested heavily there and don’t give enough opportunity to Will Phillips as it is.
Why you wouldn’t take Tauru at 2 and the try and get back in for a midfielder at a cheaper rate later I don’t know. That keeps F1 intact

 

[apuchar]

10/11 + 18 was a more than fair price though. Oh well, can’t turn back time (please no gifs), but Port looked locked in on Berry from a long way back. Murphy seems like he could get some effective minutes in ‘25 nonetheless. Oh and his folks should get regular suite at Crown Towers for them.

Trouble is with 3 years left on his contract, they didn't have to be fair.

 

[Outshined]

Don't agree on priorities, you cant reach for things that aren't there in the first round.

All in on Pickett to fill the final void in this team.

It's a fair hypothesis. The selection of Reid and the article on Johnson trying to develop into that explosive clearance mid might indirectly suggest that the club's locked on Pickett for the small forward solution. Of course relying on a trade request is risky but it's an interesting thought.

I'd be gutted not to get Warner (if he even wants to come home) but there's no way we fit him, Bolton and Pickett without a significant loss. Of the three, Bolton and Pickett were/are clearly higher priority.

 

[Joao]

I enjoyed Twomey's idiot offsider Beveridge (how does he have a job there? Is he related to someone of influence? Must a lot of influence given not only does he not know anything, they let him on camera looking like they didn't have time to redress him properly after he was plucked straight from an 80s bogan theme party. Even has the rapist moustache) talking up Melbourne's apparent 'success' in managing to take 12 first rounders in the last 5 years despite winning a flag in one of them.

What he didn't mention:

• Only 3 was a top 10 pick (one top 5)
• One of those top tens has already left (the top five pick)
• Four of them are picks post 18 (as in second rounders in the good old days)
• Two at least are likely busts
• Excluding the 2 from yesterday as we don't know yet, of the players they still have, arguably only 1 is projecting as an A grader.

+1 on Beveridge. Baffling to me that any organisation would want him representing them to a national audience.

 

[mattis117]

I dunno .
Midfield is not the issue with Norf. They’ve invested heavily there and don’t give enough opportunity to Will Phillips as it is.
Why you wouldn’t take Tauru at 2 and the try and get back in for a midfielder at a cheaper rate later I don’t know. That keeps F1 intact

I think North tried to do a lot of things - if they could have the definitely would have traded 2 for the saints two picks, which they would have taken in any other draft.

In the end O'Sullivan just too good of a talent to pass on and it really completes their midfield. 100% they're really short on key back talent though. They just didn't have the picks this year to solve all their problems.

 

[mattis117]

It's a fair hypothesis. The selection of Reid and the article on Johnson trying to develop into that explosive clearance mid might indirectly suggest that the club's locked on Pickett for the small forward solution. Of course relying on a trade request is risky but it's an interesting thought.

I'd be gutted not to get Warner (if he even wants to come home) but there's no way we fit him, Bolton and Pickett without a significant loss. Of the three, Bolton and Pickett were/are clearly higher priority.

At this stage I would prefer Pickett over Warner. Warner is a better player but Pickett is the better fit for the team.

 

[Alfonz]

At this stage I would prefer Pickett over Warner. Warner is a better player but Pickett is the better fit for the team.

Pickett is also a better fit for the salary cap ... 1.5 million versus 800-900k is an enormous difference.

 

[malpaso]

Reading Bell's comments on what the team needs and others have said it, would we be looking at a running HBF with our next pick? Who's there?

 

[go_the_dockers]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-draft-2024-every-clubs-targets-and-potential-pick-swaps-ahead-of-wednesday-night/news-story/857eb542fa9d223a2a0fd89520c6b101

Victorian midfielder Murphy Reid loomed as a potential draft slider going into the draft, but the Dockers ensured he didn’t slide past pick 17 on Wednesday night. A clean, composed and creative onballer likened to Scott Pendlebury

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Scott Pendlebury

Age

36

Ht

191cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.5

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

13.3

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.9

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

3star

CL

3.6

4star

D

12.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.8

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

, some had considered Reid a top-10 prospect and Fremantle list boss David Walls revealed the club “had him a fair bit higher than 17 on our board”.

Walls said that the club had “more than enough names” still in its sights for the second night of the draft, where the Dockers are scheduled to make the seventh pick and will then have some options later in the order.

Fremantle’s second pick is a possible landing spot for athletic WA midfielder Hugh Boxshall. Werribee VFL defender Riley Bice has been linked to the club, while South Fremantle key defender Tom Bell is another option later on. The Dockers have also nominated father-son Jarren Carr, the son of 134-game Docker Matthew, who shapes as a late draft or rookie option.

 

[apuchar]

Reading Bell's comments on what the team needs and others have said it, would we be looking at a running HBF with our next pick? Who's there?

The Clarke kid from SA

 

[GingerDocker]

At this stage I would prefer Pickett over Warner. Warner is a better player but Pickett is the better fit for the team.

I'm all in on Kossie.

Warner has really dropped down the pecking order for me. Johnson, Erasmus, NOD, Bolts occasionally and now Reid is more than enough elite talent to look after the midfield.

We need pace, defensive pressure, unpredictability and ground level scoring power up front and Kossie provides that in spades.

I'm sure the club will move heaven and earth to get him next year.

 

[Paracleet]

In a sense you can see why Reid slid if you look at from the perspective of decision making process:

• He plays as a starting inside mid at junior level
• Has lots of ticks
• Has two big crosses: Undersized in not just height but also strength
• This places a big question mark as to whether he will make it as a inside mid despite the clear talent
• So then your recruitment team has to answer the question: Do we want to burn a pick on someone who there is a decent chance won't be good enough in their prime position, but hasn't clearly demonstrated they can play another (as he has been far too good a footballer to play anywhere other than onball as a starting position. forget drifting forward to kick goals. that's not the same as playing 4 quarters in the forward line or on a wing).
• So they all pass until you get a team like ours who can take the risk.

To me I'd say low floor for this guy because of the crosses, but there is realistic, if lowish, possibility he could end up being one of the best players in the draft.