Opinion New players, new numbers!

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Obviously 23 was the number I chose on day one and I was pretty excited and became quite attached to it " Lockyer said.
I was a bit hesitant to give the number up , but after speaking to Lance and others at the Footy club , im now really excited to be wearing the number 18 which he wore as a junior.

Sigh. talk about mumbo jumbo spin.

The real story is either

1. Kid, you are pretty insignificant and Buddy is a big dog. Hand over the number or gtfo.

OR

2. Listen son Franklin is really really big. Like huge. His Dad is mean and mad as a cut snake. If you want your knee caps hand over the jumper.

Either one of those excuses would have been acceptable and believable.
 
Wouldnt be suprised but the coaches and others would have had a say In his number knowing they will get more
guernsey sales If he stays in his #23
 
It's not that you just seem to have a angst over anything Franklin related.

Continuing in the recent trend of clueless people on this board thinking I hate everything about the Swans, you appear to miss the fact that I am the person who started the thread saying the Lance Franklin signing was the most significant moment in the club's recent history.
 
Continuing in the recent trend of clueless people on this board thinking I hate everything about the Swans, you appear to miss the fact that I am the person who started the thread saying the Lance Franklin signing was the most significant moment in the club's recent history.

Fair enough i have probably mistaken you and lumped you in the " Everything Franklin related negative lump" i apologize.

Constant negativity about everything the club does tho, recruiting, trading, not picking up xxxx player is annoying.
 
What many on here have to understand is Buddy Franklin is no brain surgeon and when he talks to the media sometimes things are going to come out like he is a 15 yr old. He probably has a massive ego but if he is kicking goals and tearing the opposition apart I couldn't care if he sounds as conceited as that bubble butted ego maniac Serena Williams. Franklin meant no disrespect to Rampe in that quote he just did not have a clue how to say what he meant to say with the intelligence of a normal well versed 27 yr old veteran of the game.
 
Guys, not trying to stir, genuinely wondering whether you find it irritating that buddy has taken lockyers number? Doesn't look like it was given that willingly and I know I wouldn't like it if he came to collingwood (id like that part) and took it off lachie keefe
 
Guys, not trying to stir, genuinely wondering whether you find it irritating that buddy has taken lockyers number? Doesn't look like it was given that willingly and I know I wouldn't like it if he came to collingwood (id like that part) and took it off lachie keefe

Some people might find it irritating i couldn't care less it's just a jumper number for crying out loud.
 

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Guys, not trying to stir, genuinely wondering whether you find it irritating that buddy has taken lockyers number? Doesn't look like it was given that willingly and I know I wouldn't like it if he came to collingwood (id like that part) and took it off lachie keefe

As if he'd play for Collingwood he has standards and he wants to win more premierships.
 
Guys, not trying to stir, genuinely wondering whether you find it irritating that buddy has taken lockyers number? Doesn't look like it was given that willingly and I know I wouldn't like it if he came to collingwood (id like that part) and took it off lachie keefe

Honestly, yeah, a bit. It's not like i'm really upset over it, but it does irritate me a little.

I just don't like the "appease Buddy" attitude. And i feel for the poor kid who had to give up his number, and who now knows the club doesn't think he's as important as making Buddy happy over something so insignificant.

Buddy might like 23, but for me it still links him to Hawthorn. He should have made a new start. New club, new number.
 
Some people might find it irritating i couldn't care less it's just a jumper number for crying out loud.
Yeah but I mean the fact that it was something that belonged to or used to be associated with another player and he just gets to walk in and take it. It might just be a bit galling to the other players that he not only gets a large portion of the salary cap, he also gets someone else's jumper. Anyway as I said, not trying to stir, won't bother you anymore unless someone quotes, good luck next year
 
Yeah but I mean the fact that it was something that belonged to or used to be associated with another player and he just gets to walk in and take it. It might just be a bit galling to the other players that he not only gets a large portion of the salary cap, he also gets someone else's jumper. Anyway as I said, not trying to stir, won't bother you anymore unless someone quotes, good luck next year
Father Bob would forgive, he had a poodle named Franklin.;)
 
Some people might find it irritating i couldn't care less it's just a jumper number for crying out loud.

Lockyer clearly cared and was told to get over it by the club. Incredibly annoying.
 
Guys, not trying to stir, genuinely wondering whether you find it irritating that buddy has taken lockyers number? Doesn't look like it was given that willingly and I know I wouldn't like it if he came to collingwood (id like that part) and took it off lachie keefe


yeah it annoys me a little, not because i care about numbers that much but more because of the message it sends to players like lockyer, who seemed to care, that they are so much more insignificant than buddy. also because buddy's interview about it was quite contradictory. i just hope he learns to earn the genuine respect of his teammates in the coming years rather than just walking in and getting whatever he wants.
 
The Club is bigger than one player , do you really think McVeigh , Goodes etc etc would let Buddy upset the playing group over a number , if young Lockyer really didn't want to give it up.
I have no problem with it , its what Franklin does on the field is what the playing group , fans etc care about.
Lockyer might not even be on the list in 2015 but I guess that's still not the point
 
When talking about himself:
But when talking about another player having to give up his number:

Douche of the year, or still Campbell Brown?


Cool, way to cherry-pick quotes. If you'd actually watched the video, you'd know that was in response to the reporter asking a pointed question about Lockyer giving it up, and he was being pretty nice and positive about Lockyer.

Buddy had two options: say it was all about marketing (which is obviously is, but that's not something you can really come straight out and admit), or try to somehow justify it. In the video it's a lot more reasonable, but of course when you pick out those two lines like that it seems a lot worse than it is.

Anyway, I'd have much preferred Buddy take a new number and make it his own, but oh well. It is what it is. I doubt either player are actually particularly attracted to either number, it's all branding, which is unfortunately a necessary part of football these days.
 
Keeping 23 when you haven't played a senior game in the number in would have been petulant. Good on him for giving it up. He probably heard what happened to Matthews.
 
I say this without malice and with genuine interest;

Why do people care so much vis a vis jumper numbers? Get one that is palatable and then who cares? It is not like league or union where the numbers denote starting positions anyway.

To me they are meaningless except for a few special circumstances like if you happen to be nutso superstitious and hate 7 or 13. Or if you are like Franklin and have some marketing reason.

I can't see the issue really. Even this whole "who wore the number before" is pretty immaterial to me. The player was the entity that made it special. The jumper number was not special in any way.

I really don't get it.
Totally agree. They help me identify the player.

And then (footy heresy coming up here, apparently) when the player retires, or switches clubs, within one off-season I've usually forgotten what number they wore.

I got well entangled in one of the periodic discussions on the MB about having players' names on their jerseys when I revealed that though I vividly recall countless moments of Paul Kelly's career, or Kirkey's, to give a couple of examples, I have no idea now what number either of them wore. And they were coming on all mystical like, as if the number has some immortal resonance, and I wasn't a true footy fan.
 
Lockyer clearly cared and was told to get over it by the club. Incredibly annoying.


How is it annoying.

I don't think the number decision on Franklin was made by Lance or the coaching team.

It was obvious the decision was made by the marketing team and from a business standpoint it was the only logical decision they could make.

What would you have done SM sacrifice thousands of jumper sales so a kid who hasn't played any games could keep his number?
 

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