Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
And the fact it is cut off from East Perth by the freeway/railway.
And the fact it is cut off from East Perth by the freeway/railway.
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Miguel Sanchez
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Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
That could easily be solved by a wide footbridge across the GFF and the railway like at Docklands. Especially given people are talking about a much longer footbridge across the river from Burswood/Belmont.
That could easily be solved by a wide footbridge across the GFF and the railway like at Docklands. Especially given people are talking about a much longer footbridge across the river from Burswood/Belmont.
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
Belmont is a ridiculous location, sure there is loads of space but it is alluvial sands in the middle of nowhere. The talk of running ferries to Belmont is even more ridiculous, people forget how small the Perth population is sometimes.
East Perth is a short sighted option, there is barley enough room for a footy oval as it is - might as well stay at Subiaco.
I believe Barnett is playing 'hard to get' with Packer, he wants Packer to come to the table big time on this project. How much money would the stadium or sporting precinct for that matter be worth to Packer on a weekly basis when you consider football, concerts etc
Burswood with a link to the new East Perth Developments plus the 'Gateway to the City Project' would transform out city.
Burswood is the only option.
Interesting poll here:
http://post.polls.yahoo.com/quiz/quizresults.php
Belmont is a ridiculous location, sure there is loads of space but it is alluvial sands in the middle of nowhere. The talk of running ferries to Belmont is even more ridiculous, people forget how small the Perth population is sometimes.
East Perth is a short sighted option, there is barley enough room for a footy oval as it is - might as well stay at Subiaco.
I believe Barnett is playing 'hard to get' with Packer, he wants Packer to come to the table big time on this project. How much money would the stadium or sporting precinct for that matter be worth to Packer on a weekly basis when you consider football, concerts etc
Burswood with a link to the new East Perth Developments plus the 'Gateway to the City Project' would transform out city.
Burswood is the only option.
Interesting poll here:
http://post.polls.yahoo.com/quiz/quizresults.php
The Falcon Strike
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Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
The East Perth location is a no brainer IMO - as long as there is enough space for the venue.
Everyone wants a sporting precinct - well ladies and gentlemen - that area already has the WACA, Perth oval and GLoucester park in immediate walking vicinity.
Major works would need to be done to grant access via the polly pipe - but more importantly - it has all the train stations to handle the required traffic. People need to learn to drive to their local train station and train in if need be.
The MCG doesn't have many local pubs around it - but a short stroll or tram and you are in the city - east perth would be no different.
A stroll into mt lawley, a bus service to burswood or a train to the city would disseminate the crowds well
Given the extra costs associated with Burswood - that money could be spent sinking east parade, the train line and demolishing the train station building - and making that area look a lot nicer, add space and be more functional
The East Perth location is a no brainer IMO - as long as there is enough space for the venue.
Everyone wants a sporting precinct - well ladies and gentlemen - that area already has the WACA, Perth oval and GLoucester park in immediate walking vicinity.
Major works would need to be done to grant access via the polly pipe - but more importantly - it has all the train stations to handle the required traffic. People need to learn to drive to their local train station and train in if need be.
The MCG doesn't have many local pubs around it - but a short stroll or tram and you are in the city - east perth would be no different.
A stroll into mt lawley, a bus service to burswood or a train to the city would disseminate the crowds well
Given the extra costs associated with Burswood - that money could be spent sinking east parade, the train line and demolishing the train station building - and making that area look a lot nicer, add space and be more functional
Wirra for PM
All Australian
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
Sure would be good if the got rid of that east perth train station.. the brutalist architects of soviet russia called and they want it back.
Sure would be good if the got rid of that east perth train station.. the brutalist architects of soviet russia called and they want it back.
Coast_Watch
Senior List
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
I have to agree. The two rail line services and nearby GFF and East Parade are the keys. A pedestrian underpass under the GFF and minor roadworks will provide ample site access. There are good reasons this was the preferred development site.
I have to agree. The two rail line services and nearby GFF and East Parade are the keys. A pedestrian underpass under the GFF and minor roadworks will provide ample site access. There are good reasons this was the preferred development site.
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
Agreed! I would still like to see with that though Ascot taken over and turned into a theme park, shops, restaurants, whatever. Just something. You could link it across to the new stadium and have a great new precinct.
Agreed! I would still like to see with that though Ascot taken over and turned into a theme park, shops, restaurants, whatever. Just something. You could link it across to the new stadium and have a great new precinct.
Miguel Sanchez
(Unique injury) TBC
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
You mean Belmont. Ascot is further up the river and used for the summer races (such as Perth Cup).
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You mean Belmont. Ascot is further up the river and used for the summer races (such as Perth Cup).
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chardonnay
Club Legend
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
What sort of backwater do you want based on 22 days of the year - thats
a precinct without a key ingredient 340+ days a year.
This precinct stuff is illusionary.
What sort of backwater do you want based on 22 days of the year - thats
a precinct without a key ingredient 340+ days a year.
This precinct stuff is illusionary.
Galileo9
Premiership Player
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
a stadium is not going to be built in area with no transport.
restaurants, bars will not be built just because there is a stadium which operates 22-24days a year.
train lines will not be built just to service a stadium 22 days a year.
i want a stadium but i aint paying $500mm for a separate train spur line used 22 days a year because barnett doesnt want it built in subiaco because it was labor's proposal.
a stadium is not going to be built in area with no transport.
restaurants, bars will not be built just because there is a stadium which operates 22-24days a year.
train lines will not be built just to service a stadium 22 days a year.
i want a stadium but i aint paying $500mm for a separate train spur line used 22 days a year because barnett doesnt want it built in subiaco because it was labor's proposal.
Coast_Watch
Senior List
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
Wasn't the Langoulant Stadium Task Force Study started by Labor back in 2005 ? Wasn't Barnett's initial preferrence a Subiaco Oval piece-meal redevelopment ?. Didn't the Task Force recommend the East Perth Power Station as the cheapest and most feasible site ? Isn't that site already serviced by two lines ? Why does it need to have some sort of entertainment precinct connected with it ? Isn't the city only 5 minutes away by rail ?
Wasn't the Langoulant Stadium Task Force Study started by Labor back in 2005 ? Wasn't Barnett's initial preferrence a Subiaco Oval piece-meal redevelopment ?. Didn't the Task Force recommend the East Perth Power Station as the cheapest and most feasible site ? Isn't that site already serviced by two lines ? Why does it need to have some sort of entertainment precinct connected with it ? Isn't the city only 5 minutes away by rail ?
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
Haha, yeah, you know what I meant. I've said that by accident a few times when speaking to mates.
Haha, yeah, you know what I meant. I've said that by accident a few times when speaking to mates.
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
When is Barnett coming out with his stadium plan? wasn't it slated for Feburary 2011?
When is Barnett coming out with his stadium plan? wasn't it slated for Feburary 2011?
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
No stadium, but the premier museum, restaurants, shops, offices, and other entertainment all on both sides of the river. Think darling harbour, but with a stadium and in East Perth / Belmont.
No stadium, but the premier museum, restaurants, shops, offices, and other entertainment all on both sides of the river. Think darling harbour, but with a stadium and in East Perth / Belmont.
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
Why not? It would help pay for the development. And it would be nice. We need some more areas with lots of entertainment that aren't Northbridge.
Why not? It would help pay for the development. And it would be nice. We need some more areas with lots of entertainment that aren't Northbridge.
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
He was going to "revisit" it in February. He recently said he was expecting a decision in June.
He was going to "revisit" it in February. He recently said he was expecting a decision in June.
chardonnay
Club Legend
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
You are having a lend of yourself ... Darling Harbour,try Moore Park.
You are having a lend of yourself ... Darling Harbour,try Moore Park.
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
Interesting results from a poll on watoday.com.au
Old East Perth power station 28%
Burswood 26%
Belmont Park 25%
Kitchener Park, Subiaco 21%
Interesting results from a poll on watoday.com.au
Old East Perth power station 28%
Burswood 26%
Belmont Park 25%
Kitchener Park, Subiaco 21%
Galileo9
Premiership Player
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
are you sure THAT is exactly what these results indicate?
Galileo9
Premiership Player
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
well there is nothing in that that talks about a pricinct. and its wrong to assume that people that want say belmont would then have burswood as second option.
larrikin
Moderator
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Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
Given that the Belmont and Burswood sites and are literally separated by a freeway their locations are very similar. Over half of the respondents said one of these two would be their preferred site, you'd have to think given their proximity that these people would be comfortable with the alternative as the pros and cons of these sites are very similar.
The part that is interesting about this is that Perth's population is skewed to the North, and both of these sites are south of the river (marginally) but the transport links etc are certainly worse for northern suburbs.
By precinct I meant area - apologies for the confusion.
Given that the Belmont and Burswood sites and are literally separated by a freeway their locations are very similar. Over half of the respondents said one of these two would be their preferred site, you'd have to think given their proximity that these people would be comfortable with the alternative as the pros and cons of these sites are very similar.
The part that is interesting about this is that Perth's population is skewed to the North, and both of these sites are south of the river (marginally) but the transport links etc are certainly worse for northern suburbs.
Re: New Stadium - Time for Cautious Optimism?
Building it at Belmont will reek of so much fail its scary. The only reason they want it is because its a cheap alternative. The pure logistics as far as getting in and out of the place will be horrific. Unless changes are made I reckon atleast 70% of patrons are going to have to take public transport for it to even come close to working. Burswood is a much better option IF they flog of the golf course and the Burswood Dome.
Building it at Belmont will reek of so much fail its scary. The only reason they want it is because its a cheap alternative. The pure logistics as far as getting in and out of the place will be horrific. Unless changes are made I reckon atleast 70% of patrons are going to have to take public transport for it to even come close to working. Burswood is a much better option IF they flog of the golf course and the Burswood Dome.
