NFNL 2023 Div 1 discussion

[10571z]

Can anyone confirm the new 17s disqualification rule?

If they double up to help the 19s field a side is that still counted as a game towards their 6 max allowance?

 

[Denny Crane]

Can anyone confirm the new 17s disqualification rule?

If they double up to help the 19s field a side is that still counted as a game towards their 6 max allowance?

Rule 4.2.1 b) Once a Junior player plays 5 or more home and away matches of senior football (Under-19, Reserves, Seniors Men/Women) they are ineligible to play again in any junior competition matches, including finals.

 

[10571z]

Rule 4.2.1 b) Once a Junior player plays 5 or more home and away matches of senior football (Under-19, Reserves, Seniors Men/Women) they are ineligible to play again in any junior competition matches, including finals.

Mind boggling decision. How many 19s sides survive by having fill ins from the 17s?

Some kids love playing 2 games a weekend.

 

[Thunder1]

Rule 4.2.1 b) Once a Junior player plays 5 or more home and away matches of senior football (Under-19, Reserves, Seniors Men/Women) they are ineligible to play again in any junior competition matches, including finals.

Denny Crane is this just a NFNL rule or AFLVIC
Either way, it is one of the dumbest rules that has been brought in
Would love to hear the rational behind it

 

[10571z]

Denny Crane is this just a NFNL rule or AFLVIC
Either way, it is one of the dumbest rules that has been brought in
Would love to hear the rational behind it

I suppose they are saying it’s fine for 17s to fill in but maybe they’ll have to change it up once they reach 5.

Then again not all want to double up nor have the ability to play up a level.


Is it really that unfair if a kid plays

14 under 17s games
6 under 19s games

Should they really be disqualified? I think as long as they play 17s on the same weekend the game doesn’t count towards the 5 total.

 

[oldtimer]

Denny Crane is this just a NFNL rule or AFLVIC
Either way, it is one of the dumbest rules that has been brought in
Would love to hear the rational behind it

Only an NFL rule

 

[Thunder1]

Only an NFL rule

oldtimer thanks, would love to know the rational behind this decision
Were clubs consulted and allowed to vote on this rule?

 

[Denny Crane]

Denny Crane is this just a NFNL rule or AFLVIC
Either way, it is one of the dumbest rules that has been brought in
Would love to hear the rational behind it

No idea mate, I just searched the NFNL web and found the bylaw.

I think that the NFNL is being ran by he who screams the loudest. Decisions like this can only be either angry parents whose team was beaten by a talented kid that had played higher, came back down and their little johnnie lost and is sad (hence why we have the moronic grading in 19s as well) or by medical opinions that say kids that play higher are dangerous to little johnnie.

What would be better was is if they came out and explained why they made their decision and how it was raised. Look they may have with Clubs and us plebs in the outer don't get told so these conversations and questions grow.

 

[TigerTime123]

Denny Crane is this just a NFNL rule or AFLVIC
Either way, it is one of the dumbest rules that has been brought in
Would love to hear the rational behind it

I posted comments on this rule introduction earlier this year when it was announced as it is going to have a huge impact on clubs but they just dont realise YET!!! Almost all junior clubs NEED younger kids to fill in for older age group teams at stages during the season otherwise teams would need to forfeit!
Play 5 or more games in a higher age group OR higher grade in the same age group and they cant go back to their rightful age group.
Origins of the rule - I spoke with a couple of West Preston guys that were sure that previous NFL managers did not like clubs fielding 2 under 19 sides and playing under 17 boys in the lower side for experience & development - Then playing in their own age group on Sunday.
This rule stops that disgraceful act of giving boys an opportunity to develop

 

[richo's dodgy hammy]

Practice matches still going ahead tomorrow with this forecast 37 and higher?

 

[10571z]

Practice matches still going ahead tomorrow with this forecast 37 and higher?

A few have moved them earlier.

 

[NorthernBastard]

Fortunately didn't seem to get quite as hot as predicted over the weekend, hopefully all the practice games were good hit outs.

I don't know the final score, however was told Heidelberg were down 15-34 at half time against Strathmore. Not that you can read too much into these games in terms of score lines.

 

[10571z]

Kain Proctor back to Bundoora.

 

[1st time long time]

Fortunately didn't seem to get quite as hot as predicted over the weekend, hopefully all the practice games were good hit outs.

I don't know the final score, however was told Heidelberg were down 15-34 at half time against Strathmore. Not that you can read too much into these games in terms of score lines.

Strathmore won fairly easily. Believe they Pascoe Vale this weekend which will be a very good hit out.

 

[Stinga]

Interesting to watch the Banyule v Fitzroy practice match on the weekend, with the differing styles across the two leagues evident. Banyule with a slow and patient back half possession style, whilst Fitzroy (similar to a number of VAFA teams) a quicker pace from the back half. It was an arm wrestle in tricky conditions for the first half, then Fitzroy were able to penetrate more effectively with their style in the second half.

 

[nflfan]

Interesting to watch the Banyule v Fitzroy practice match on the weekend, with the differing styles across the two leagues evident. Banyule with a slow and patient back half possession style, whilst Fitzroy (similar to a number of VAFA teams) a quicker pace from the back half. It was an arm wrestle in tricky conditions for the first half, then Fitzroy were able to penetrate more effectively with their style in the second half.

Would have been a good hit out. Looks like Fitzroy made a Prem B final, only to lose by 1 goal to the eventual premiers in Old Haileybury.

 

[Thunder1]

Practice matches this weekend

North Heidelberg vs Morwell @Morwell
Heidelberg vs Pascoe Vale @ away
Macleod vs Hillside @away
Whittlesea vs Eltham @ Whittlesea
Bundoora vs St Kevin’s @away
Banyule vs Airport West at AK Lines
Hurstbridge vs Marby Park @ Hurstbridge
Greensborough vs Norwood Norwood
Mont vs Blackburn @ RMIT Plenty rd (Sunday)
West Preston vs ???

 

[Son of a Butcher]

Practice matches this weekend

North Heidelberg vs Morwell @Morwell
Heidelberg vs Pascoe Vale @ away
Macleod vs Hillside @away
Whittlesea vs Eltham @ Whittlesea
Bundoora vs St Kevin’s @away
Banyule vs Airport West at AK Lines
Hurstbridge vs Marby Park @ Hurstbridge
Greensborough vs Norwood Norwood
Mont vs Blackburn @ RMIT Plenty rd (Sunday)
West Preston vs ???

West Preston vs Strathmore @ Strathmore Saturday

 

[Stinga]

Would have been a good hit out. Looks like Fitzroy made a Prem B final, only to lose by 1 goal to the eventual premiers in Old Haileybury.

Both sides would have been happy to have a competitive hit out against a quality team. Fitzroy are still relatively young and built up across the back half of last year and were unlucky not to progress further into the finals, the elimination final was a cracking game. Banyule have some quality players across the park and will hopefully do well in Div 1.

 

[Broomsticks]

Strathmore won fairly easily. Believe they Pascoe Vale this weekend which will be a very good hit out.

Did they though? When I left halfway through the last qtr it was 1 point the difference. Not sure what the final score was but it was a low scoring game.

 

[10571z]

West with a couple of handy Richmond vfl pickups.

Could easily snatch the 5th spot.

 

[Thunder1]

Greensborough lose another one with Nathan Hrovat

Nathan Hrovat

Age

30

Ht

175cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

14.8

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.2

3star

on the move to GVFL

 

[Son of a Butcher]

Greensborough lose another one with Nathan Hrovat on the move to GVFL

I think he was lost a while ago, didn't play a game last year after a handful in the abbreviated 2021 season. Unsure if he was around the club or not in that time.

 

[Denny Crane]

Dropped into the showgrounds for a little look. Whit in for a LONG year.

19s lost by 15 goals.
2nds lost by 20 goals.
1st lost by 10 goals.

Talk is dropping the 19s due to needing players to field a 2nds side (at least 6 super rules lads 'running' around)

1st looked young. Had a bit of speed but when it came to it Eltham was all over them.

Tough to think about but best for them to get back down a dviision and rebuild. Apparently the 17s are elite but will not hang around to be belted one would think.

Mont, Bundoora and Heidelberg in first three rounds could see a negative %.

 

[10571z]

Dropped into the showgrounds for a little look. Whit in for a LONG year.

19s lost by 15 goals.
2nds lost by 20 goals.
1st lost by 10 goals.

Talk is dropping the 19s due to needing players to field a 2nds side (at least 6 super rules lads 'running' around)

1st looked young. Had a bit of speed but when it came to it Eltham was all over them.

Tough to think about but best for them to get back down a dviision and rebuild. Apparently the 17s are elite but will not hang around to be belted one would think.

Mont, Bundoora and Heidelberg in first three rounds could see a negative %.

Yep, Whittlesea are in big trouble this year. 1.01 to be relegated

Why did they sack Harvey? Looks like a bad choice now