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Apparently still playing VFL
why would he play vfl if every post and which club rumour has alerted to money.
if he wants money then like the many others he will commit to going down the year to year path and fill up without conscience.

tax free afterall and handy for anyone able to get it
 
why would he play vfl if every post and which club rumour has alerted to money.
if he wants money then like the many others he will commit to going down the year to year path and fill up without conscience.

tax free afterall and handy for anyone able to get it
I dare say it was a publicity stunt for Trainstop app.

A few afl clubs still interested and with mid year draft who knows.
 

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why would he play vfl if every post and which club rumour has alerted to money.
if he wants money then like the many others he will commit to going down the year to year path and fill up without conscience.

tax free afterall and handy for anyone able to get it
money earned from playing sport is not tax free. If that money is not declared to ATO l would simply say beware if the ATO ever gets active to chase the salary ( yes salary ) cap payments of footy clubs. It has been done before in old VFA days and l know one player who lost his house due to tax payable plus interest plus penalties applied.
 
money earned from playing sport is not tax free. If that money is not declared to ATO l would simply say beware if the ATO ever gets active to chase the salary ( yes salary ) cap payments of footy clubs. It has been done before in old VFA days and l know one player who lost his house due to tax payable plus interest plus penalties applied.
It's classed as a hobby .
Yes the ATO could start looking into whether or not player payments are assessable at local levels but they never do,
 
It's classed as a hobby .
Yes the ATO could start looking into whether or not player payments are assessable at local levels but they never do,
l said beware if ATO ever gets active to chase these payments. whether payments made are for a hobby is an objective test based on the facts of each case. Think you will find players signs contacts as to the financial rewards and clearly come under the control of the Clubs when it comes to preparing for games and training. Thats a servant/agent relationship. l would hate to try and convince the ATO its a hobby. Just sayin.
 
ATO have given local footy a wide berth for years and will continue too.
why else are so many highly crdentialed coaches and players participating well below their skill sets.
tax free money.

once they start if they ever did to many clubs would simply shut doors.
the ATO wont want that on their plate.
 
ATO have given local footy a wide berth for years and will continue too.
why else are so many highly crdentialed coaches and players participating well below their skill sets.
tax free money.

once they start if they ever did to many clubs would simply shut doors.
the ATO wont want that on their plate.
ATO is one of the financial watchdogs of commth govt. Delusional if you think Albo would be concerned with local footy. If there is a $ to be squeeezed from someone and a bulldog type entity in the ATO decides to take the task on then beware.
Sportspeople participate below their purported skillset because its easier and love to be the tall poppy or they are not as good as they think.
why would clubs shut their doors if all participate as a hobby. if players wouldnt want to pay tax on their money then its not really a hobby is it? Shutting the doors is a long bow to draw.
Do you think VFL players are hobby players ? Are they paid tax free?
 
l said beware if ATO ever gets active to chase these payments. whether payments made are for a hobby is an objective test based on the facts of each case. Think you will find players signs contacts as to the financial rewards and clearly come under the control of the Clubs when it comes to preparing for games and training. Thats a servant/agent relationship. l would hate to try and convince the ATO its a hobby. Just sayi

ATO is one of the financial watchdogs of commth govt. Delusional if you think Albo would be concerned with local footy. If there is a $ to be squeeezed from someone and a bulldog type entity in the ATO decides to take the task on then beware.
Sportspeople participate below their purported skillset because its easier and love to be the tall poppy or they are not as good as they think.
why would clubs shut their doors if all participate as a hobby. if players wouldnt want to pay tax on their money then its not really a hobby is it? Shutting the doors is a long bow to draw.
Do you think VFL players are hobby players ? Are they paid tax free?
Good question. Someone would know
 

Example 7 relevant?

Example 7: Pastime receipts

92. Tony is an accountant by profession. Tony plays football on the weekends. The club he plays for gives him $100 for every game he plays. Tony does not play football to earn income for his regular expenditures. Nor are his receipts paid to provide financial support for Tony or relied on by Tony for that purpose. His motivation in playing football is personal; he does not do it as, nor does he intend it to become, an income producing activity. In a year Tony receives $3000 for playing football. Tony's total expenses exceed $3000.

93. Tony believes the money he receives is not assessable income.

94. Tony lodges an 'Application for a Private Ruling' at his local branch of the Australian Taxation Office (ATO) requesting a determination of whether his receipts from football are assessable income.

95. The ATO advises Tony that based on the facts supplied by him, his receipts are not assessable income. Tony keeps details of his receipts, expenditures and other relevant information to, if necessary, prove the facts he has set out in his Private Ruling request.



Definition of a Hobby​

Generally, a hobby is defined as a pastime or leisure activity that is completed for recreation or pleasure. Money and other benefits received from the pursuit of a pastime or hobby are not assessable income. Usually there is a lack of profit-making intent or business-like organisation and any money received just covers costs and incidentals.

Sporting Pursuits​

Sporting is another grey area. Traditionally, the receipt of money for a recreational sporting pursuit has been treated as a hobby for activities like coaching, playing, umpiring or referring.
There have been recent changes to rules with Australian Football within Victoria, where AFL Victoria has implemented a salary cap state-wide. The salary cap varies depending on the level of competition. This entails all players signing standard contracts that will be audited in order to ensure compliance within the salary cap limits.
Whether or not this formality has taken things beyond being a ‘hobby’ is still being determined. AFL Victoria has taken the step of asking the Australian Taxation Office for guidance as to whether these payments are to be considered assessable income. This is an interesting scenario as the interpretation could have far reaching consequences beyond just sporting pursuits.
 
Pretty confident here Denny. Cant imagine the offer he has been given for him to choose Heidelberg. Many clubs chasing him.

It must be funny at league HQ seeing the contracts submitted "Cumberland $400" when they know they are absolute BS.
When we have clubs like Wang having their flag taken off them, then I reckon afl vic need to look at things like this. He's shopped himself on the trainstop app, I'm sure trainstop get a commission of he's fee, it will be easy to find. I'd think the trainstop app is a pretty easy way to see what clubs are fudging. The deer park cash in hand is still the hardest to trace and you don't worry about the twx man.

Any player earning 4 figures a game can't claim its a hobby, they'll have a good accountant and get things like gym memberships etc written off in tax

The Mayo thrown on he knows people at the club, he lives around the corner and he choose us because we're all good blokes doesn't pass any pub test, just say we wanted a high profile recruit and we think if he hits he's straps he'll be the best player in the league, we can't believe we got him.
 

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When we have clubs like Wang having their flag taken off them, then I reckon afl vic need to look at things like this. He's shopped himself on the trainstop app, I'm sure trainstop get a commission of he's fee, it will be easy to find. I'd think the trainstop app is a pretty easy way to see what clubs are fudging. The deer park cash in hand is still the hardest to trace and you don't worry about the twx man.

Any player earning 4 figures a game can't claim its a hobby, they'll have a good accountant and get things like gym memberships etc written off in tax

The Mayo thrown on he knows people at the club, he lives around the corner and he choose us because we're all good blokes doesn't pass any pub test, just say we wanted a high profile recruit and we think if he hits he's straps he'll be the best player in the league, we can't believe we got him.
Shopping himself for sure . Told another close club if you match or better the offer I'll sign .
 
Shopping himself for sure . Told another close club if you match or better the offer I'll sign .

Rumour is Mont nearly doubled South Morang offer, wouldn’t he have gone there if so?

Regardless of where he signed that club would always cop it.. Fresh out of the system was never going to be cheap.

23 year old coming straight from the big dogs, the bloke should easily be top 3-5 player in the league if not the best.

Wonder how he’ll handle the expectations that are going to be set on him by fans and oppositions.
 
Rumour is Mont nearly doubled South Morang offer, wouldn’t he have gone there if so?

Regardless of where he signed that club would always cop it.. Fresh out of the system was never going to be cheap.

23 year old coming straight from the big dogs, the bloke should easily be top 3-5 player in the league if not the best.

Wonder how he’ll handle the expectations that are going to be set on him by fans and oppositions.
Only going on rumour I heard.
 
Rumour is Mont nearly doubled South Morang offer, wouldn’t he have gone there if so?

Regardless of where he signed that club would always cop it.. Fresh out of the system was never going to be cheap.

23 year old coming straight from the big dogs, the bloke should easily be top 3-5 player in the league if not the best.

Wonder how he’ll handle the expectations that are going to be set on him by fans and oppositions.
Been a fair few 23 year olds come out of AFL and struggle with local footy. The main one is finding your own footy on smaller / tighter grounds. Hope I'm wrong for Morang sake, but feel he will fall into this category.
 
Rumour is Mont nearly doubled South Morang offer, wouldn’t he have gone there if so?

Regardless of where he signed that club would always cop it.. Fresh out of the system was never going to be cheap.

23 year old coming straight from the big dogs, the bloke should easily be top 3-5 player in the league if not the best.

Wonder how he’ll handle the expectations that are going to be set on him by fans and oppositions.
No clubs got 6k a game stashed away in Jan for a guy. Most recruiting had been done. Most points already allocated. I still have no idea how metro clubs have more points than country clubs.

How do 21 guys go playing on 65k for the year?
 

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