NFNL div 3 2025

[10571z]

Would 3 clubs in 3 years as well make him 5 points? similar to Edwards?

It’s 3 clubs in 2 years

 

[Coach_Beard]

It’s 3 clubs in 2 years

points wont matter if the club runs out at or under whatever the nfnl set them
and like the other inclusions he will be submitted on a spreadsheet at $400-500pw so all legit and above board on both fronts

 

[bertybeetle]

points wont matter if the club runs out at or under whatever the nfnl set them
and like the other inclusions he will be submitted on a spreadsheet at $400-500pw so all legit and above board on both fronts

Would have to be even less than 400-500 as that only allows for 9-11 players

 

[Champ or Chump]

points wont matter if the club runs out at or under whatever the nfnl set them
and like the other inclusions he will be submitted on a spreadsheet at $400-500pw so all legit and above board on both fronts

This is exactly why points DO matter

 

[Coach_Beard]

This is exactly why points DO matter

yes i do understand that but if 22 players run out at whatever theyre allowed then its an even playing filed accordingly to nfnl points allocation

 

[Coach_Beard]

Would have to be even less than 400-500 as that only allows for 9-11 players

oh well less then combined with some alternate type accounting ha ha

 

[Champ or Chump]

yes i do understand that but if 22 players run out at whatever theyre allowed then its an even playing filed accordingly to nfnl points allocation

Unless they are on excessive point allocations compared to the side they play against. If they play with 46 points like everyone else - then you are correct - equity exists.

But that is currently the $1,000,000 question that all teams in Div 3 will be awaiting understanding on from the NFNL I would assume?

 

[Coach_Beard]

Unless they are on excessive point allocations compared to the side they play against. If they play with 46 points like everyone else - then you are correct - equity exists.

But that is currently the $1,000,000 question that all teams in Div 3 will be awaiting understanding on from the NFNL I would assume?

well then its on the rival clubs who pay fees to full time adminidstrators to act on behalf of, and in their best interrests to ensure some level of equality rewmains.
if not youll be ignored dictated to and without a voice like clubs in bendigo if you have followed the nonsewnse around broadford somehow landing in the bendigo league recently.
believe it or not the clubs are the key financial stakeholders and paid administrators need to be reminded of that from time to time.

 

[Champ or Chump]

well then its on the rival clubs who pay fees to full time adminidstrators to act on behalf of, and in their best interrests to ensure some level of equality rewmains.
if not youll be ignored dictated to and without a voice like clubs in bendigo if you have followed the nonsewnse around broadford somehow landing in the bendigo league recently.
believe it or not the clubs are the key financial stakeholders and paid administrators need to be reminded of that from time to time.

Not sure of what has happened at Broadford, but I think last year in Div 3 the extra 5 points to support Lalor and Reservoir made sense. This year, it may get some opposition IF that is something the NFNL was to speak to clubs about. I have no idea of the process - last year or this year? I'm sure club administrators would be keen to discuss at some stage if it looked to disadvantage, rather than support better equity.

 

[baggersforflaggers]

Reservoir got 5 extra points last year and were the most competitive they had been for a decade…
They should be getting less than 5 points extra as most of their list “should” stay meaning a reduction in all recruited players last year.

If they get anything more than 1-4 points extra every club will be up in arms and should be complaining.

Can’t go and recruit 3/4 ex afl players, no
Matter their age, and other recruits and then “Hope” they get extra points!

 

[10571z]

Reservoir got 5 extra points last year and were the most competitive they had been for a decade…
They should be getting less than 5 points extra as most of their list “should” stay meaning a reduction in all recruited players last year.

If they get anything more than 1-4 points extra every club will be up in arms and should be complaining.

Can’t go and recruit 3/4 ex afl players, no
Matter their age, and other recruits and then “Hope” they get extra points!

Did they even use them?

Either way they will be playing on 46 points take it to the bank. I suggest the tactic of "get everyone and we will work it out later" is in play.

 

[Champ or Chump]

Did they even use them?

Either way they will be playing on 46 points take it to the bank. I suggest the tactic of "get everyone and we will work it out later" is in play.

I love a take it to the bank in January!!

What other players will pop up at Div 3 clubs between now and April? Been busy already that's for sure and will be great for the comp.

 

[10571z]

I feel like this is saying different things?

One is 3 in 3 years the other is 2 in 3

http://nfnl.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Player-Points-System-Policy-2025-Final.pdf

If so many of these blokes will be extra points again

 

[Champ or Chump]

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I feel like this is saying different things?

One is 3 in 3 years the other is 2 in 3

http://nfnl.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Player-Points-System-Policy-2025-Final.pdf

If so many of these blokes will be extra points again

Clearly the 'best' team will not all fit in one game of allocated points.

So building a list that keeps the side strong/competitive when some others are out ie Dyson at Essendon - looks to be a plan. Then you deal with things IF you make finals .... much like Heidelberg do each year .... and some will miss out due to points.

Well done to the Mustangs on who they have been able to get in the door - great effort from the new committee. But I agree with others on here that extra points would produce unintended inequity against other teams with that list.

 

[bertybeetle]

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I feel like this is saying different things?

One is 3 in 3 years the other is 2 in 3

http://nfnl.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Player-Points-System-Policy-2025-Final.pdf

If so many of these blokes will be extra points again

Current or previous 2 seasons. Says the same thing I think.
Example:
2025 - Reservoir (current club)
2024 - Healesville
2023 - Deer Park

 

[Turbos mail]

Reservoir got 5 extra points last year and were the most competitive they had been for a decade…
They should be getting less than 5 points extra as most of their list “should” stay meaning a reduction in all recruited players last year.

If they get anything more than 1-4 points extra every club will be up in arms and should be complaining.

Can’t go and recruit 3/4 ex afl players, no
Matter their age, and other recruits and then “Hope” they get extra points!

Hey mate, it’s works differently at headquarters. If you don’t recruit players and announce them then you don’t get extra points as why do you need them. But if you sign quality players to become more competitive then you will get extra points allocated so you can put a decent side on the park as it makes the competition better. That’s how it works!!

However the flip side is you must be sure you have the finances to pay them also.

 

[Champ or Chump]

Hey mate, it’s works differently at headquarters. If you don’t recruit players and announce them then you don’t get extra points as why do you need them. But if you sign quality players to become more competitive then you will get extra points allocated so you can put a decent side on the park as it makes the competition better. That’s how it works!!

However the flip side is you must be sure you have the finances to pay them also.

This is great news Turbo ..... the club I follow has announced 12 new players already ...... we should get 65 points to play with this season!!

Seriously though, two things ......

• this does not help the longer term viability or encourage teams to invest in juniors IF you can keep getting extra points to bring in players on higher points.
• The points cap is the ONLY thing that supports every competition in it's efforts to try and reduce inequity. The salary cap does not do that IF you listen to anyone involved in footy competitions around Australia.

Make the points cap the same for each club and then clubs can determine the structure of their list based on that.

 

[Turbos mail]

This is great news Turbo ..... the club I follow has announced 12 new players already ...... we should get 65 points to play with this season!!

Seriously though, two things ......

• this does not help the longer term viability or encourage teams to invest in juniors IF you can keep getting extra points to bring in players on higher points.
• The points cap is the ONLY thing that supports every competition in it's efforts to try and reduce inequity. The salary cap does not do that IF you listen to anyone involved in footy competitions around Australia.

Make the points cap the same for each club and then clubs can determine the structure of their list based on that.

Mate without extra points clubs down the bottom just can’t compete ever. Even rebuilding will take 6-7 years.
It’s the only way since these idiots introduced this system which hasn’t helped in my opinion.

 

[Champ or Chump]

Mate without extra points clubs down the bottom just can’t compete ever. Even rebuilding will take 6-7 years.
It’s the only way since these idiots introduced this system which hasn’t helped in my opinion.

I think points have been a good introduction to competitions - imagine the inequity between the haves and have nots if points were not taken into consideration and it was all on who has the most cash. The most ridiculous thing is a 'so called' salary cap.

I can see your point re struggling clubs - absolutely - and as I said, last year it made sense to me. But what I am suggesting is that like any 'advantage/support' mechanism you set up, you still need to monitor how it is used so in supporting one club you don't unintentionally disadvantage others.

I can only use the club I follow as an example and not speak for others - we have chased ex-juniors and a few higher point guys to try and build a competitive team for this season knowing we have to play with 46 points. We only beat Ressa by 7 points the second time we met and IF they had a significant points advantage over us that allows them to get in several older AFL guys /multi-club players - where we cant. How is that equitable?

 

[Turbos mail]

I think points have been a good introduction to competitions - imagine the inequity between the haves and have nots if points were not taken into consideration and it was all on who has the most cash. The most ridiculous thing is a 'so called' salary cap.

I can see your point re struggling clubs - absolutely - and as I said, last year it made sense to me. But what I am suggesting is that like any 'advantage/support' mechanism you set up, you still need to monitor how it is used so in supporting one club you don't unintentionally disadvantage others.

I can only use the club I follow as an example and not speak for others - we have chased ex-juniors and a few higher point guys to try and build a competitive team for this season knowing we have to play with 46 points. We only beat Ressa by 7 points the second time we met and IF they had a significant points advantage over us that allows them to get in several older AFL guys /multi-club players - where we cant. How is that equitable?

Hey mate, understand your views. But do Resa have juniors and does your club? Can they try that strategy of going after home growns??

I did hear Resa have a big powerbroker working behind the scenes hence the recruits and $$ to attract them.

Stay well mate and HNY

 

[10571z]

Mate without extra points clubs down the bottom just can’t compete ever. Even rebuilding will take 6-7 years.
It’s the only way since these idiots introduced this system which hasn’t helped in my opinion.

The points system is the best thing AFL Victoria has introduced.

The clubs down the bottom have zero to do with points. Neither Reservoir nor Lalor have had any issues with points recently. Both have no junior pathways and had max player exodus’s in the past.

 

[Champ or Chump]

Hey mate, understand your views. But do Resa have juniors and does your club? Can they try that strategy of going after home growns??

I did hear Resa have a big powerbroker working behind the scenes hence the recruits and $$ to attract them.

Stay well mate and HNY

Yeah not sure of the Ressa situation, but we have a strong juniors and will have over 50 past juniors in our 3 x senior teams this year and hope to continue to build that moving forward now we are in the NFNL and can compete with $$, local games/rivalries, bigger crowds, beers at the footy, etc. that make playing at the club a bit more appealing right now than playing 4th and 5th Div ammo's.

Lucky Ressa if they have found a power broker to support them - that is always very handy. Well done to them.

HNY and look forward to more footy chat throughout the year Turbo

 

[Blueboy67]

Hey mate, understand your views. But do Resa have juniors and does your club? Can they try that strategy of going after home growns??

I did hear Resa have a big powerbroker working behind the scenes hence the recruits and $$ to attract them.

Stay well mate and HNY

A big powerbroker and $$$ should not legally be able to assist the Mustangs when the salary cap is $75,000. Reservoir won a flag in 2015, whilst Kilmore haven’t won one since 2001 and Heidelberg West haven’t even played finals since God knows when. Why should Ressa be given assistance over a club like Heidelberg West?

 

[Champ or Chump]

A big powerbroker and $$$ should not legally be able to assist the Mustangs when the salary cap is $75,000. Reservoir won a flag in 2015, whilst Kilmore haven’t won one since 2001 and Heidelberg West haven’t even played finals since God knows when. Why should Ressa be given assistance over a club like Heidelberg West?

What about us Bluey - we have NEVER won a flag in the NFNL!

Friday fun time whilst on holidays!

PS - in saying that 'alot of our juniors have' .... for Heidelberg, Banyule, North H, West P ..... LOL!