Opinion NMFC Board Cricket ThreadII - Windies, Big Bash, Pakistan.

[DarkPhoenix]

DLS = Duckworth Lewis is Shit

 

[Sillygit]

was close though

 

[Wristo_]

Did Fred Spofforth have a third day whip-round at the SCG for Typhus Horace?

Did Monty Noble and Clem Hill promote whale oil?

Fred Spooforth? Now there's a blast from the past.
Must be where the term comes from, to have a spoof! Old spoofy loved to, "have a bat".

 

[Horace]

I wonder how many years gokangas has been watching test matches for? I would have said Horace but I used to live on a farm in the vicinity of his place and we didn't have a connection to the electricity grid until 1966 so telly was out of the question. 32v battery and diesel generators didn't get the job done.

T20 wasn't very popular back in those days anyway.

Same boat SoS, although we got the power on in 1958. I remember in the early days of television when Tests were on, quite a few electrical goods shops would have a TV on that you could watch through their window and everyone walking by would stop for a bit and watch the play.

 

[gokangas]

Same boat SoS, although we got the power on in 1958. I remember in the early days of television when Tests were on, quite a few electrical goods shops would have a TV on that you could watch through their window and everyone walking by would stop for a bit and watch the play.

Remember that as a kid. Main events and news would often draw a crowd outside the telly shops.

 

[Roostorm]

Geez South Africa are knackered….

 

[Sillygit]

tell ya what can make big bash more interesting, picking some pretty average batsmen to at least make 10 runs in a multi. Like pulling teeth.

 

[krakouers]

I wouldnt joke about Bazball too much. Its the only thing keeping test cricket going at the moment. The rest of the world are not really putting bums on seats. And as for as no test wins I think you mean no test series victories but you should then also mention the poms did not lose a test series in 2023 either so dont let facts get in the way of a good story.

Out of curiosity roo blitz ,
Are you based over there?
Just wondered how the young participation rates are?
I get why they tried with the Hundred but did it work at all? I thought your T20 Blast (?) was doing ok from that end

 

[Sillygit]

jeez that pitch is turning a mile

 

[krakouers]

jeez that pitch is turning a mile

Must be:

 

[Sillygit]

Must be:
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some proper unplayable ones from Agar at times

 

[krakouers]

Bancroft snubbed! Aussies set to back in Green for return

Cam Bancroft is set to be snubbed by Australian selectors in the race to replace retired opener David Warner when Australia’s squad for the upcoming Test series against West Indies is announced.

thewest.com.au

"Cam Bancroft is set to be snubbed by Australian selectors in the race to replace retired opener David Warner when Australia’s squad for the upcoming Test series against West Indies is announced on Wednesday.

Warner’s retirement from Test cricket opened the door for Bancroft, the leading Sheffield Shield run-scorer for the past two seasons, to return to the side as a specialist opener.

But it is understood the option to squeeze all-rounder Cam Green, who was pushed out by the in-form Mitch Marsh, into the Test team was too hard to ignore.

It leaves former captain Steve Smith and Green locked in a two-horse race to partner Usman Khawaja at the top of the order, with the current No.4 declaring he would be “pretty keen” to take on the challenge.

Bancroft, Marcus Harris and Matt Renshaw were the leading candidates from outside the regular squad to replace Warner, with the former receiving overwhelming support from across the cricket world.

Cricket legend Ricky Ponting urged selectors to reward Bancroft with an opportunity, pointing to his dominant domestic cricket form."

 

[toepoker]

I'll admit to having not seen Bancroft play since he was last in the test team but nothing about his technique said "test opener" to me.

 

[Nate7]

Why the urge to go with Green, who has played SFA for the last while, over a guy performing at shield level and obviously on the outer with selectors?

This effectively says, no point performing at any level, we'll just pick our favourites.

 

[Marstermind]

I'll admit to having not seen Bancroft play since he was last in the test team but nothing about his technique said "test opener" to me.

Here's why Cameron Bancroft won't be playing for Australia anytime soon...

“At least some of the bowlers, surely, knew what he was doing?” McRae writes that he asked the Australian.

“There is a long pause before Bancroft answers:

“Yeah, look, all I wanted to do was to be responsible and accountable for my own actions and part. Yeah, obviously what I did benefits bowlers and the awareness around that, probably, is self-explanatory. I guess one thing I learnt through the journey and being responsible is that’s where the buck stops [with Bancroft himself]. Had I had better awareness I would have made a much better decision.”

“I ask the question again. So some of the bowlers did know?

Bancroft’s hesitation is even longer. “Uh … yeah, look, I think, yeah, I think it’s pretty probably self-explanatory.”

I'd say that last sentence could be described as a 'Career Limiting Move' especially as the four bowlers in question are still in the team and one of them is now the captain.

 

[shinboner magic]

Be interesting which batsmen they add to the squad

 

[toepoker]

Here's why Cameron Bancroft won't be playing for Australia anytime soon...

“At least some of the bowlers, surely, knew what he was doing?” McRae writes that he asked the Australian.

“There is a long pause before Bancroft answers:

“Yeah, look, all I wanted to do was to be responsible and accountable for my own actions and part. Yeah, obviously what I did benefits bowlers and the awareness around that, probably, is self-explanatory. I guess one thing I learnt through the journey and being responsible is that’s where the buck stops [with Bancroft himself]. Had I had better awareness I would have made a much better decision.”

“I ask the question again. So some of the bowlers did know?

Bancroft’s hesitation is even longer. “Uh … yeah, look, I think, yeah, I think it’s pretty probably self-explanatory.”

I'd say that last sentence could be described as a 'Career Limiting Move' especially as the four bowlers in question are still in the team and one of them is now the captain.

Yeah, maybe, maybe not but surely the overriding question is, "is he good enough?"
And I honestly just don't think he's good enough. If you're a going to be a grinding, low strike rate style opener then you need to have a rock solid defence. He doesn't. Khawaja, by comparison, does.
As a pair all they will do is soak up balls before Bancroft goes, probably bowled between bat and pad which happens to him way too regularly for a test quality opener

 

[krakouers]

Here's why Cameron Bancroft won't be playing for Australia anytime soon...

“At least some of the bowlers, surely, knew what he was doing?” McRae writes that he asked the Australian.

“There is a long pause before Bancroft answers:

“Yeah, look, all I wanted to do was to be responsible and accountable for my own actions and part. Yeah, obviously what I did benefits bowlers and the awareness around that, probably, is self-explanatory. I guess one thing I learnt through the journey and being responsible is that’s where the buck stops [with Bancroft himself]. Had I had better awareness I would have made a much better decision.”

“I ask the question again. So some of the bowlers did know?

Bancroft’s hesitation is even longer. “Uh … yeah, look, I think, yeah, I think it’s pretty probably self-explanatory.”

I'd say that last sentence could be described as a 'Career Limiting Move' especially as the four bowlers in question are still in the team and one of them is now the captain.

if you want ill put up the full article, but to paraphrase:

Why do Aussies seem so determined not to pick Cam Bancroft?

Australia have a vacancy for an opener now that David Warner is retiring. The leading Sheffield Shield run-scorer is an opener. So why are they looking everywhere else for a replacement?

thewest.com.au

"Coach Andrew McDonald and captain Pat Cummins have already publicly acknowledged what the rest of the country knows, which is that the decision is between four men – Cameron Green, Cameron Bancroft, Marcus Harris and Matt Renshaw.

But right now it feels like selectors are determined to pick Green, even if it means taking risks with the team....

Bancroft’s 945 runs last season was 289 runs more than any other player. He also scored four centuries, which was double the next best.

He’s produced 512 runs this season to again lead the Sheffield Shield and is one of only four men to score two tons. Bancroft is averaging 25 runs more per innings than both Renshaw and Harris this season...

We all know there is an elephant in the room. Bancroft upset Australia’s brilliant bowling cartel when he addressed the issue of whether some of the bowlers knew about the plan to use sandpaper in Cape Town in 2018. He attempted to sidestep that question during a 2021 interview before settling on “I think it’s pretty probably self-explanatory” as his answer....

If he and the other bowlers don’t want to play alongside Bancroft because they’ve lost trust in him as a result of those statements, then they should tell us. Right now, the public have every right to think that Bancroft is about to be overlooked for non-cricketing reasons..."

 

[Samsquanch]

Hey I have an idea... Let's look to the domestic first class teams to assess which opening batters we should short list for selection in the national team. What do you think?

Australian Selectors: **** that. We'll pick a bowler who occasionally manages to make a score above 10 or 20. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[krakouers]

Yeah, maybe, maybe not but surely the overriding question is, "is he good enough?"
And I honestly just don't think he's good enough. If you're a going to be a grinding, low strike rate style opener then you need to have a rock solid defence. He doesn't. Khawaja, by comparison, does.
As a pair all they will do is soak up balls before Bancroft goes, probably bowled between bat and pad which happens to him way too regularly for a test quality opener

He has a decent defense, Harris by comparison has more runs (sorry) on the board with county and playing a moving ball, Bancroft hasnt struggled terribly with county but just hasnt really played that much in siituations other than Sheffield shield with a moving ball… he played 4x times for Somerset last county season?

 

[RightWingRoo]

Happy to go with taking a risk and picking the bloke with greater potential. Green has the ability to average 45+. While Bancroft and Harris are unlikely to ever get their's over 30. Renshaw still has development left, so has the scope to get into the 35-40 range.

 

[hellas_johnny]

Apparently renshaw will be the backup batsmen in the squad with Smith to open and green to 4. Green made a few runs recently in shield batting at 4.

 

[krakouers]

Apparently renshaw will be the backup batsmen in the squad with Smith to open and green to 4. Green made a few runs recently in shield batting at 4.

96 vs QLD then 46 against Pakistan in PM XI:

PM-XI vs PAK Cricket Scorecard, Tour Match at Canberra, December 06 - 09, 2023

Get cricket scorecard of Tour Match, PM-XI vs PAK, Pakistan in Australia 2023/24 at Manuka Oval, Canberra dated December 06 - 09, 2023.

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QLD vs WA Cricket Scorecard, 18th Match at Brisbane, November 28 - December 01, 2023

Live Cricket Scoreboard: Get Queensland vs Western Australia 18th Match, cricket scorecard, Sheffield Shield 2023/24 dated November 28 - December 01, 2023.

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No batting since the PM match:

 

[Samsquanch]

Like I said... What could possibly go wrong?



I'm just going to do a google search for David Noble to see what he's doing at the moment. I had this sudden feeling like he was appointed to be the head selector for the Australian Cricket Team.

 

[Colbys Boots]

Why the urge to go with Green, who has played SFA for the last while, over a guy performing at shield level and obviously on the outer with selectors?

This effectively says, no point performing at any level, we'll just pick our favourites.

I think this is a case of "anyone but Bancroft" though. If Harris or Renshaw had Bancroft's 2-year form line, they'd be in the team. It's pretty obvious that half the incumbent test team don't want to play with Bancroft. These selectors are puppets.