Past Coach NMFC Senior Coach - David Noble has parted ways with NMFC

[The Anvil]

I haven't watched this presser. I don't think i will, so can you elaborate a bit please?

It's worth watching.

 

[blackshadow]

The player isn’t working for me

That's what Noble said.

 

[blackshadow]

Now you know how David feels.

Damn beat me to it!

 

[Moti]

It certainly troubles me that player/staff discontent was a factor. And I suspect it will trouble fuyure coaching prospects. They will wanyt to know exactly what has gone on, otherwise some may say "Thanks but no thanks."

In these circumstances, it surely has to be a tough, experienced, perhaps premiership coach, who gets the gig. It surely cannot be someone in a current Assistant Coach role, who has never been an AFL Senior Coach.

If it is then he/she must have someone in place in a Director of Coaching role. Someone like Balme, or Sheedy or Williams.

No leadership roles these days are immune to 365 feedback. If the people he works with and the people he is employed to lead don't feel that he can get the best out of them, then that is when a leader has failed to connect to that group and needs to be coached by management, then potentially re-assigned and eventually let go. Seems like we did the first, struggle to do the second and was left with option 3.

 

[gokangas]

There are a few of us on here been telling you all for more than a month that Noble had lost a group of the players - a BF first. That was his death knell. Media conference was calm and cosnsidered and went well. Understand that some would see Sonja as a little smug and ungiving at times but that is her style. Overall it went well. Noble particularly was all class.

 

[DesertRoo]

Great advertisement for the next coach coming in… yeah the players thought the coach was a bit tough on them so we ditched the coach.

So what does the coach sound like he must’ve been terrible, watches goodbye presser..

Um yeah..

 

[Devington]

There are a few of us on here been telling you all for more than a month about that Noble had lost a group of the players. That was his death knell. Media conference was calm and cosnsidered and went well. Understand that some would see Sonja as a little smug and ungiving at times but that is her style. Overall it went well. Noble particularly was all class.

The only negative perception I had of Sonja was that she doesn't seem to respect the media. Oh wait, I had that in my positives column.

 

[justroyal]

Do we think we’ll find out what actually went wrong? Sonja highlighted how improved we were in off-field signings and changes coupled with a good ending to 2021. Surely we’ll get something?

 

[the flying ham]

It certainly troubles me that player/staff discontent was a factor. And I suspect it will trouble fuyure coaching prospects. They will wanyt to know exactly what has gone on, otherwise some may say "Thanks but no thanks."

In these circumstances, it surely has to be a tough, experienced, perhaps premiership coach, who gets the gig. It surely cannot be someone in a current Assistant Coach role, who has never been an AFL Senior Coach.

If it is then he/she must have someone in place in a Director of Coaching role. Someone like Balme, or Sheedy or Williams.

I for one don't necessarily agree it needs to be a previous senior coach. Have a look at Freo, the Pies. Tactically minded, empathetic of the players, with a strong support network. I think a long and robust selection process starting now needs to happen, where we try and get as many applicants in the mix as possible. With that, courting of some highly regarded assistants and perhaps the over arching senior figurehead for the coaching would be ideal. I'm not saying a senior head coach is a bad idea, just more a suggestion that the best coach out there isn't necessarily someone who has done it before.

 

[Mav]

Great advertisement for the next coach coming in… yeah the players thought the coach was a bit tough on them so we ditch the coach.

So what does the coach sound like he must’ve been terrible, watches goodbye presser..

Um yeah..

Do you honestly believe it was just a bit of tough love that caused the issues?

 

[Twinkletoes]

All I can say is thanks Nobes. You and we move on.

It had to happen.

 

[DesertRoo]

Do you honestly believe it was just a bit of tough love that caused the issues?

The culture at the club stinks, it has been central to a lot of issues, and yes that culture stems from the players.

 

[berniemccarthy]

These days are the worst. We all feel like we had to fire the employee ourselves and are not sure that we have given them every chance to succeed. Just horrible. Wish him everything good in life.

 

[Horace]

I for one don't necessarily agree it needs to be a previous senior coach. Have a look at Freo, the Pies. Tactically minded, empathetic of the players, with a strong support network. I think a long and robust selection process starting now needs to happen, where we try and get as many applicants in the mix as possible. With that, courting of some highly regarded assistants and perhaps the over arching senior figurehead for the coaching would be ideal. I'm not saying a senior head coach is a bad idea, just more a suggestion that the best coach out there isn't necessarily someone who has done it before.

I'm not against first time coaches, but we have had two in a row and for a variety of reasons it hasn't ended well. In my opinion we can't afford to go down that track again with this appointment, unless there is a senior figure overseeing the position.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I hope Noble lands a gig in his wheelhouse.

BTW, when a coach loses the players, doesn't always mean it's the coaches fault.

 

[franjon]

I will say this if they burn another coach in the next 2 years the players have a lot of blood on their hands. David has been nothing but class from day 1

Not the players. With David going, a few in the football department can go with him.

 

[King Corey]

BTW, when a coach loses the players, doesn't always mean it's the coaches fault.

As The acurate one has inferred the review needs to zero in on this.

If we accept the media report that the Noble-player relationship is untenable - that still leaves us with a very poorly performed playing group dictating terms to the club somewhat. IF the reports are accurate at all.

The new coach might need to use the Malcolm Blight approach and shoot 3 dissenters early on to set the agenda. Sun Tzu style.

 

[Devington]

I'm guessing player discontent would include players in every category imaginable. Shit relationship with coach, cracking under the rebuild pressure, unhappy with expectations, pissed with selection, loathing losing every week, unwilling to meet standards etc etc.

More concerned with the quality of our leadership group, who I think are letting us down on and off field, than individual discontent players tbh (with the exception of one or two like JHF and Zurharr). Maybe it's a long bow but I think a better leadership group could have quashed/solved a lot of the discontent, or at the very least led to have us having better standards.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

There are a few of us on here been telling you all for more than a month that Noble had lost a group of the players - a BF first. That was his death knell. Media conference was calm and cosnsidered and went well. Understand that some would see Sonja as a little smug and ungiving at times but that is her style. Overall it went well. Noble particularly was all class.

You should really own that if it's what you think rather than use weasel words and apply it to hypothetical others.

 

[Themanbun]

As The acurate one has inferred the review needs to zero in on this.

If we accept the media report that the Noble-player relationship is untenable - that still leaves us with a very poorly performed playing group dictating terms to the club somewhat. IF the reports are accurate at all.

The new coach might need to use the Malcolm Blight approach and shoot 3 dissenters early on to set the agenda. Sun Tzu style.

From my knowledge of the individuals concerned I really don't think their 'discontent' is because they're comfortable with underperformance and don't like being challenged.

 

[Roos92]

Who actually knows what the feedback was from the players? I really doubt it was purely about tough love... surely something else went wrong with the messaging and direction.

You only have to look at the poorly skilled blokes Noble has been selecting all year. The ones who are hanging on to a list spot and willing to do whatever it takes to secure another year. Turner would have been a guaranteed in this week we all know it. He is chiselled to the Arden st Blackboard. Ziebell came straight in while Horne stayed in the vfl.

All the best to Noble he had a crack, but a few people seem so outraged (media included??) when we all knew it was coming.

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[DocSholl]

There are a few of us on here been telling you all for more than a month that Noble had lost a group of the players - a BF first. That was his death knell. Media conference was calm and cosnsidered and went well. Understand that some would see Sonja as a little smug and ungiving at times but that is her style. Overall it went well. Noble particularly was all class.

What is wrong with you

 

[King Corey]

From my knowledge of the individuals concerned I really don't think their 'discontent' is because they're comfortable with underperformance and don't like being challenged.

Then I'm intrigued about what the disconnection was.

 

[DesertRoo]

As The acurate one has inferred the review needs to zero in on this.

If we accept the media report that the Noble-player relationship is untenable - that still leaves us with a very poorly performed playing group dictating terms to the club somewhat. IF the reports are accurate at all.

The new coach might need to use the Malcolm Blight approach and shoot 3 dissenters early on to set the agenda. Sun Tzu style.

Isn’t that what they did when they marched 12 or so players, how many more do we need to purge?

sounds like we need a little more drastic action.

 

[dimo]

There are a few of us on here been telling you all for more than a month that Noble had lost a group of the players - a BF first. That was his death knell. Media conference was calm and cosnsidered and went well. Understand that some would see Sonja as a little smug and ungiving at times but that is her style. Overall it went well. Noble particularly was all class.

sonja and ben to follow him!