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Watching our game on the weekend and some of the other matches, especially anytime with Gordon De Goey or Patrick Cripps playing, being spun around 720 degrees is now OK. I would have thought the AFL would be hard to crack down on these as HTB given the only alternative for the tackler not being rewarded for these tackles would be to throw the opponent to ground.

The AFL in the PS said they'd be much harder on HTB this season .....a 360 degree would be HTB

Like most of the AFL's huffing & puffing ....that strictness lasted just a few rounds & has been watered down .....exactly the same that has occurred with push in the back

Everything gets watered down
Given that the rule is supposed to be that a player must make an immediate attempt to dispose of the ball (prior opportunity or not), a 360 (when their arms are free or mostly free) is clearly not an "immediate" attempt, but instead waiting for an opportunity to choose where they dispose it to.

As for the sling tackle - I agree that it's getting out of hand as to what is / isn't a dangerous tackle, but at the same time I can understand the desire to get it it (slamming the player to the ground with consequent risk of head knock) out of the game. As Brasher says, if players are given too long to dispose, then there's an incentive to bring them to ground.

However - as I recall from back in the day, the ideal tackling technique was to wrap the player up and then drop your knees, thus forcing them down - and even if the player is strong enough to stay standing while there's 100kg of opponent pulling them down, well, then, the key is in the wrapping up. I dunno - maybe if that was the preferred tackle, slinging to the ground wouldn't be so necessary.

Did we see players being slung to the ground in the tackle, back in the dim dark past? I don't know...
 
Did we see players being slung to the ground in the tackle, back in the dim dark past? I don't know...

I don't recall but we didn't see a lot of one armed pinned tackles either....but that was in the glorious days of a handball actually involving the punching hand moving with momentum to project the ball clear.....not a flick pass with a happenstance semi clenched fist (I'm old enough to remember the over the head Russell Ebert handballs that were regularly called throws).

The irony is, the rules have made it easier to dispose of the ball yet players are hanging onto it longer.
 
As for the sling tackle - I agree that it's getting out of hand as to what is / isn't a dangerous tackle, but at the same time I can understand the desire to get it it (slamming the player to the ground with consequent risk of head knock) out of the game. As Brasher says, if players are given too long to dispose, then there's an incentive to bring them to ground.

However - as I recall from back in the day, the ideal tackling technique was to wrap the player up and then drop your knees, thus forcing them down - and even if the player is strong enough to stay standing while there's 100kg of opponent pulling them down, well, then, the key is in the wrapping up. I dunno - maybe if that was the preferred tackle, slinging to the ground wouldn't be so necessary.

Did we see players being slung to the ground in the tackle, back in the dim dark past? I don't know...
The tackling technique of dropping the knees was IMO fine, when the game was slower ....most of the time these days both players are moving at pace when tackling ....maybe a bit harder these days, hence the twist & turn technique, which was how I was trained

The key issue that's always been on my mind is ....players these days are being knocked out, with heads predominantly hitting the ground
Historically grounds were softer & muddy ....very few players were knocked out hitting their heads on the ground ....and that was when players were taught to hurt in tackles

If the AFL is serious about concussion, one of the easiest solutions, is to grow the grass longer to the same length of NRL surfaces ....that would slow the game down ....so the AFL are not that serious
 

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The tackling technique of dropping the knees was IMO fine, when the game was slower ....most of the time these days both players are moving at pace when tackling ....maybe a bit harder these days, hence the twist & turn technique, which was how I was trained

There was also a period of a lot of tacklers being unfairly penalised for in the back when the tackled player fell forward so the twist and turn became fashionable to prevent those free kicks against.

Like a lot of things these days, there was nothing wrong with the original technique if the umpires didn't unfairly award against the tackler who fell forward into his opponent.
 
I'd have to delve into the numbers TBH ....as posters have put up today, we were #1 tackling (Berry & Laird) ......and a poster said, we're #7 this year

So at face value, something doesn't correlate

The other poster is quoting raw numbers, last year we were 12th for tackle differential. Clearances is another stat that were high up in terms of raw numbers but low in terms of differential. We were 3rd for clearances won, but 12th for clearance differential. On average our opponent had 0.5 more clearances per game than us. Our game style results in lots of stoppages, which means there's lots of clearances and more tackle opportunity. So the raw numbers are high, but we actually get beaten by our opponent on average in those stats.
 

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