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Didn’t get near it?
It goes past his elbow.
Yeah, he didn't touch it. Misjudged the kick and landed on Brayshaw's head. If you jumped into a player's head for a mark, knee them and knock them out, while completely misjudging the ball so you don't even touch it - I reckon you'd get weeks easily
 
I don't think the game would be any worse off if what Maynard did was banned
Maynard doesn't run in and attempt that smother and he gets a mouthful from the coach for lack of commitment.

You cannot run onto the field in a contact sport and not expect incidental or accidental contact. I'm all for protocols around concussion, but the player accepts a certain amount of risk when they run onto the park.

You reckon a basketballer gets suspended for accidently collecting someone with an elbow on the way down from a dunk? Of course not. If you don't want to cop an impact injury, don't play a team sport, play tennis or golf or something.

This hand wringing is rubbish.
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Can’t help but think Brayshaw could have done a bit more to reduce the severity of the contact. Perhaps he didn’t see Maynard coming, or was just being courageous by not deviating .
 
Maynard doesn't run in and attempt that smother and he gets a mouthful from the coach for lack of commitment.

You cannot run onto the field in a contact sport and not expect incidental or accidental contact. I'm all for protocols around concussion, but the player accepts a certain amount of risk when they run onto the park.

You reckon a basketballer gets suspended for accidently collecting someone with an elbow on the way down from a dunk? Of course not. If you don't want to cop an impact injury, don't play a team sport, play tennis or golf or something.

This hand wringing is rubbish.

There is no thuggery can’t be justified with this sort of carte blanche faux toughness rhetoric

Just needs a few “back in my day…” thrown in

You can even spoil front on now, it’s an automatic free kick, but it’s ok to leap at someone, front on, out of control?

There are various elements in that action that are already banned
 
Can’t help but think Brayshaw could have done a bit more to reduce the severity of the contact. Perhaps he didn’t see Maynard coming, or was just being courageous by not deviating .
TBH, if he had been thinking clearly, Maynard leaving the ground gave him an easy opportunity to dodge past him.
 
Yeah, he didn't touch it. Misjudged the kick and landed on Brayshaw's head. If you jumped into a player's head for a mark, knee them and knock them out, while completely misjudging the ball so you don't even touch it - I reckon you'd get weeks easily
So what happens if you kick into the man on the mark and knock him out. We no longer have people manning the mark?
 
Yeah, he didn't touch it. Misjudged the kick and landed on Brayshaw's head. If you jumped into a player's head for a mark, knee them and knock them out, while completely misjudging the ball so you don't even touch it - I reckon you'd get weeks easily
What, he was close to touching it. As I’ve shown with the picture.
It wasn’t a complete misjudgment that’s rubbish.
And why are people ignoring Brayshaws movement to the side, no one can be expected to account for that.
 
TBH, if he had been thinking clearly, Maynard leaving the ground gave him an easy opportunity to dodge past him.
We see that regularly.
Maybe if they didn’t dodge there would be more collisions.
 
So what happens if you kick into the man on the mark and knock him out. We no longer have people manning the mark?
If you're that badly skilled you kick into the man on the mark's head with such force they get knocked out you probably deserve a few weeks and to have your AFL contract reviewed due to ineptitude
 
There is no thuggery can’t be justified with this sort of carte blanche faux toughness rhetoric

Just needs a few “back in my day…” thrown in

You can even spoil front on now, it’s an automatic free kick, but it’s ok to leap at someone, front on, out of control?

There are various elements in that action that are already banned
So predictable.

To what extent did Brayshaw try to avoid contact? He was intent on kicking the ball when other options were available to him. How's that for an element?

Is your position that the player accepts no risk of impact injury by stepping out on to the field of play?
 
The other thing is the high contact, he jumped from a LONG way back and a LONG way into the air

That was choice. He literally threw himself as far and as high as he could without care about where he was landing or being in control.

Halfway through the leap he realises he’s overegged it, and turns to brace because he realises he’s lost control

It wasn’t that far from Woosha on Modra
 
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What, he was close to touching it. As I’ve shown with the picture.
It wasn’t a complete misjudgment that’s rubbish.
And why are people ignoring Brayshaws movement to the side, no one can be expected to account for that.
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I love how Collingwood are getting put through the wringer with this.
I hope he gets a game just because it's Collngwood, they seem a protected species normally
Reminds me of the Dmack tribunal case where everyone had an opinion on it
 
So predictable.

Agreed. Right answers often are


To what extent did Brayshaw try to avoid contact? He was intent on kicking the ball when other options were available to him. How's that for an element?

To what extent is he responsible for another players carelessness?

That’s just craven gymnastics


Is your position that the player accepts no risk of impact injury by stepping out on to the field of play?

Pretty early for strawmen isn’t it?
 
The other thing is the high contact, he jumped from a LONG way back and a LONG way into the air

That was choice. He literally threw himself as far and as high as he could without care about where he was landing or being in control.

Halfway through the leap he realises he’s overegged it, and turns to brave because he realises he’s lost control

It wasn’t that far from Woosha on Modra
You've lost the plot mate.
 
The other thing is the high contact, he jumped from a LONG way back and a LONG way into the air

That was choice. He literally threw himself as far and as high as he could without care about where he was landing or being in control.

Halfway through the leap he realises he’s overegged it, and turns to brave because he realises he’s lost control

It wasn’t that far from Woosha on Modra
Lol, it was nothing like Woosha on Modra!
 
Yep I’ve posted a few times the screen shots that clearly show brayshaw fell to the side post kicking.
They would have most likely missed had he continued on the path he was on when Maynard made his original decision.
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Looking at these still shots.. and bare with me here.. this could have some unprovable bullshit included!..

1) maynard launched his jump off his right leg.. if he wanted to go towards him with a bump and not simply jump up and smother/put him off the kick, then he jumped with the wrong leg.. pushing off his left leg instead wouldve propelled him toward brawshaw…

think about it.. when you are running at full speed and launch a jump off your right leg in which direction (no matter how small a change of direction that is) does that point your body in..

so his intention was never to make contact with Brayshaw.

2) the collision occurs because of Brayshaw.. it looks as if Brayshaw has “checked” his kick at the last minute to get it “around“ (you know what I mean - kick across the ball to “slice it slightly) the smother attempt.. so he’s ended up kicking it slightly across his body with his right leg towards his left side..
in doing this he has instantly put himself off his centre of balance and made himself fall toward the right after the kick.. straight into the path of Maynard.

think about.. when you kick across your body like that whilst leaning back into the kick.. which way do you fall..

maynard.. in the split seconds has realised he’s now about to collide with brayshaw and his body‘s immediate response is to tense up bring the arms in and protect itself.. its a subconscious reaction.

Is that far fetched?..
 
Agreed. Right answers often are




To what extent is he responsible for another players carelessness?

That’s just craven gymnastics




Pretty early for strawmen isn’t it?
So you're position is that ONLY the player without the ball is responsible for the health of the player with the ball. The player with the ball has absolutely no responsibility to avoid contact where that's possible.

Brayshaw contributed to the contact by deciding to continue to kick and doing so in a manner to avoid the smother. He chose not to dodge, as he could have.

You're having a laugh if you want the game to be this way.
 
What, he was close to touching it. As I’ve shown with the picture.
It wasn’t a complete misjudgment that’s rubbish.
And why are people ignoring Brayshaws movement to the side, no one can be expected to account for that.
Yeah, Brayshaw's body positioning contributed to the incident.

Further, if the collision was with another Dees player without a history of concussion, we probably would not even be discussing this given I doubt there would have been a concussion incident.
 
So you're position is that ONLY the player without the ball is responsible for the health of the player with the ball. The player with the ball has absolutely no responsibility to avoid contact where that's possible.

Brayshaw contributed to the contact by deciding to continue to kick and doing so in a manner to avoid the smother. He chose not to dodge, as he could have.

You're having a laugh if you want the game to be this way.
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