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Which is kind of my point. Everyones (umpires, players, supporters) confused. It's not at all clear as some are saying

Yes I was agreeing with you, but I don't think there can be any confusion about the resulting suspension.
 


Collard gets a season ending 6 weeks for his slurs

Itā€™s a hefty penalty but it could be argued heā€™s got off lightly given it wasnā€™t a one off comment but a series of them

Still getting my head around the fact that hitting someone receives less of a penalty than saying a bad word(s)
 
Trust afl again to use an aboriginal player to ā€œmake an exampleā€. Just like Sydney stack for Covid breaches. Despite not being first ones.
 
Seriously?

He's lucky it wasn't more.

Load of crap. 6 weeks, really? Thatā€™s not enough?

Gaff got 8 for belting and breaking someoneā€™s jaw and giving permanent lifelong issues to brayshaw. This is words. Naughty words for sure. Why donā€™t we go and have him deregistered hey?

I am sure if danngerfield did same thing, say, he would get 6 weeks? My ass.
 

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Trust afl again to use an aboriginal player to ā€œmake an exampleā€. Just like Sydney stack for Covid breaches. Despite not being first ones.
Wil Powell recently got 5 weeks - this isn't a race thing! Don't try and make it into something it isn't.

But I do agree the whole tribunal, punishments etc around everything - tackles, bumps, words, etc - is so broken.

Needs to be completely overhauled and action based, not outcome. Accidents happen, and people will get hurt in a contact sport - that doesnt mean someone must be suspended (not that this fits this scenario though).
 
Allegedly said the "F" word 10 times to 2 or 3 different players.
Fair to say he lost the plot.

Haven't read about any apologies or contrition so can see this one being
8 plus if previous suspensions are anything to go by.
Collard clearly doesn't want to be in Victoria. That's him done for the season .

Recon he flys home and ask for a trade with his value absolutely tanked .

Swap him for witherden
 
Wil Powell recently got 5 weeks - this isn't a race thing! Don't try and make it into something it isn't.

But I do agree the whole tribunal, punishments etc around everything - tackles, bumps, words, etc - is so broken.

Needs to be completely overhauled and action based, not outcome. Accidents happen, and people will get hurt in a contact sport - that doesnt mean someone must be suspended (not that this fits this scenario though).
Yep 6 weeks for hurt feelings .

Vs 1 week for elbow off the ball
 
At risk of this being derailed into complaints about wokism

Iā€™m sure there are millions of instances of foul language being thrown around including at umpires without there being any suspensions.

Itā€™s not simply ā€œbad words get penalised harder than punching someoneā€

Certain language comes into hate speech territory, which carries with it a heap of implications if left unmanaged. Agree with that or not, itā€™s just how it is.

Donā€™t use race or sexual preference to insult people and you wonā€™t get suspended
 
Load of crap. 6 weeks, really? Thatā€™s not enough?

Gaff got 8 for belting and breaking someoneā€™s jaw and giving permanent lifelong issues to brayshaw. This is words. Naughty words for sure. Why donā€™t we go and have him deregistered hey?

I am sure if danngerfield did same thing, say, he would get 6 weeks? My ass.
Don't play the race card.

Gaff was 6 year's ago.
He probably gets double thai if it was done now.
 
At risk of this being derailed into complaints about wokism

Iā€™m sure there are millions of instances of foul language being thrown around including at umpires without there being any suspensions.

Itā€™s not simply ā€œbad words get penalised harder than punching someoneā€

Certain language comes into hate speech territory, which carries with it a heap of implications if left unmanaged. Agree with that or not, itā€™s just how it is.

Donā€™t use race or sexual preference to insult people and you wonā€™t get suspended
So Woke campaigner is alright?
 
At risk of this being derailed into complaints about wokism

Iā€™m sure there are millions of instances of foul language being thrown around including at umpires without there being any suspensions.

Itā€™s not simply ā€œbad words get penalised harder than punching someoneā€

Certain language comes into hate speech territory, which carries with it a heap of implications if left unmanaged. Agree with that or not, itā€™s just how it is.

Donā€™t use race or sexual preference to insult people and you wonā€™t get suspended

So what you are saying itā€™s now highly offensive and hate speech to call a straight person a homophobic name and question their sexuality?

I mean I can understand offending a lqbtq person and doing it deliberately to hurt them.
 
So what you are saying itā€™s now highly offensive and hate speech to call a straight person a homophobic name and question their sexuality?

I mean I can understand offending a lqbtq person and doing it deliberately to hurt them.
Cards on the table: when you call someone a f***** you arent questioning their sexuality - you are demeaning them by saying "you are equal to this group of people whom I consider to be lesser human beings than me".

When you use terminology to equate someone to being less-than because of something they cant change about themselves, its a form of hate speech.
 

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