Hope so.
Their small punchable forwards could trouble us. Still, we need to beat all comers so bring it on.
Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2022, part II
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Their small punchable forwards could trouble us. Still, we need to beat all comers so bring it on.
What a load of rubbish. Seriously. They won like 12 games in a row. beat melbourne and very unlucky not to beat us. they arent even the worst top 4 team this year.
Oh interesting detail. They need to win by around 60.
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I reckon there was another year we were pretty average and pumped up by a heap of close wins as well actually
The only irrationality here is the idea that it's somehow a good thing to face a tougher run of games than to face an easier run of games. How is this not completely self-evident?
If they were very unlucky not to beat us how do you describe the 11 game winning streak full of less than 2 goal victories (besides Melbourne, facing no good sides)?
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2014 IIRC, similar to pies we won a bunch of close games against lesser sides and limped into top 4 with a percentage like 114 or something.
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Whatever the year we went out in straight sets was... Which coincidentally is what the Pies will do this year
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Only reason why I'm not sure they will is because they'll likely face freo in Melb.
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Collingwood are an easier match up than Melbourne, Sydney and potentially even Freo. I genuinely believe they've done a Houdini this year. Their brand won't hold up against quality teams in a final.The only irrationality here is the idea that it's somehow a good thing to face a tougher run of games than to face an easier run of games. How is this not completely self-evident?
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Carlton were robbed....
Don't ya love it.....
Don't ya love it.....
Playing an awful Hawthorn in 2016 didn't help us beat a legitimate premiership threat in Sydney in the prelim. Freo would have been as good as a bye - I'm not arguing that point.The only irrationality here is the idea that it's somehow a good thing to face a tougher run of games than to face an easier run of games. How is this not completely self-evident?
This Collingwood team is still worse than that Hawthorn team, or probably any team Scott's Cats have faced in a QF. Honestly, stop crying and throwing your toys out of the pram. You're embarrassing yourself.
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I think they've just been insanely lucky. Percentage of 104 is ridiculous for a top 4 finish. They scrape over the line regularly because they play almost all their games at their home ground, and they've had a soft draw because of their 17th finish last year. Carlton should have won that game. Pies didn't win it. Carlton lost it. Same is true for many of their games this year. They will lose comfortably next month I think.
By that metric, beating a woeful WCE in 2011 didn't stop us beating a Collingwood team who had dropped 2 games for the season in a GF.
Yep. This Pies team are at the level of that Geelong side. They have played fairly poorly in most games that haven't been against Melbourne this year.
Hawthorn in the QF was the tune up.
Tough QF against Bulldogs in 09 another.
Rather an easy prelim than QF.
see the bit where you typed top 11 game winning streak? And it was in the back half of the season leading into finals. Thats your answer.
hawthorn back in 2016 was effing terrible. Like at the end they were bottom 6 material and they made top 4.
geelong probably worse in one or two of our seasons as well. Gws in 2017. there are a number of others.
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None with a worse percentage have made the top 4. So statistically, for points scored Vs against differential over an entire season, they are the worst ever.
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Well it's either the reigning premiers who did have a 10 game winning streak themselves, Swans who comfortably handled the Pies literally last week.. Or us, who beat them coming from a nightmare quarter, have won 13 straight and finished 2 games clear on top
So as you can see, Seeds is not intellectually sound.
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There’s no actual data that proves having harder or easier QF correlates to winning or losing a premiership. You just have to beat what’s in front of you! On the Pies, the good teams they have beaten have been inconsistent and the only consistent team they played beat them easy. If we’re the real deal this year (which I believe we are) we should account for them easily
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The streak of games isn't the significant factor though - the margins are. Close games are a coin toss. The pies are like that mate who doubles up 8 times in a row on the roulette table. It's not going to work in the finals.
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For all my belief in us, I do think the Pies are dangerous and one thing for certain is that they have enormous self belief.. They'll keep coming.
I just think they are a KPD and KPF short from really being a threat
I just think they are a KPD and KPF short from really being a threat
Swans have set up defensively really well all game
Saints haven't had a lot of run at all
Saints haven't had a lot of run at all
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