Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2022, part II

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Melbourne, the side that least need Grundy out of any side in the comp, are gonna get him.

Their salary cap is almost entirely spent on their inside midfield/ruck mega deals. When they actually need forwards and I think another quality winger/half back type.

Comical list management.
Fritter and Pickett are going to get every single centre bounce clearance sent to them
 
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Votes for all the games.
Agree with the Brisbane votes, Luke Ryan stiff only getting 2 in the Freo/Bulldogs game.
May 10 Oliver 3? Were they watching the same game? And not even 1 vote for Gawn? And only 3 votes for Mills? Who voted on these? May was not worth 10 votes if he had that sort of game Melbourne either win or its a single digit margin for the loss.

The less said about 1 vote for Cameron the better.
Jez with 1 vote? Wtf?
Him and Rohan were the difference.

As brilliant as Rohan was I think Cameron was better.
 

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boo ****ing hoo. Maybe Tom Lynch should have kicked a drop punt?
 
Well as far as getting Trac and Oliver I spose it's like Hawthorn with Buddy and Franklin, well chosen after the reward for being terrible.

I'm specifically talking about the mega deals their mids have signed since the premiership though. It's given them less flexibility to improve the team further and now they're wasting more on Grundy?

May, Lever, Langdon were great pick ups. Ben Brown, oddly because he found form for their drought breaking finals series was a good pick up but they needed to find other options. Even if they still had Hogan.

Pickett I'm not mega sold on yet. Bowey is okay. They need a FF, CHF, another winger of Langdon level and another really skillful back flanker who creates. They nabbed a flag without addressing these needs but you need to stay active.

Every team got list holes .
Hard to get everything under the cap.
 
Sounds like we're stuck with 7/Fox for another 7 years (2025-2032). Not sure how I feel about that, it's all gotten a bit stale. How commentators like Quarters don't get a gig is beyond me.
 

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Wilson and Hardwick just reek of entitlement. That BS builds up in that club from years of being giving special considerations for being a large Melbourne club.
Nobody OWES them anything. Especially not to a journalist.
I want to know how Flynch missing cost people jobs? Does Dimma just fire the entire football department every time they lose a final?
 
All supporter bases are biased hypocrites but I'm enjoying the Richmond fans doing and being everything they claim Geelong to be. Coach being a massive sook, supporters whingeing and obsessing over us, the "saltiness" etc.

They just scraped into finals as a result of some close wins but please, keep fixating on the goal umpires rushed decision who in the moment admitted he wasn't sure but thought it might of been a goal whilst everyone else thinks it was a point, yes that's what cost you a premiership. Head is so far up their ass and the bathwater is nearly all gone.
 
All supporter bases are biased hypocrites but I'm enjoying the Richmond fans doing and being everything they claim Geelong to be. Coach being a massive sook, supporters whingeing and obsessing over us, the "saltiness" etc.

They just scraped into finals as a result of some close wins but please, keep fixating on the goal umpires rushed decision who in the moment admitted he wasn't sure but thought it might of been a goal whilst everyone else thinks it was a point, yes that's what cost you a premiership. Head is so far up their ass and the bathwater is nearly all gone.
Including Lynch himself. Love how their coach went to the 'He couldn't even see it in the lights' as his explanation for why Tom made no protestations whatsoever about the decision. Rather than admitting that even the player kicking the ball had huge concerns that he'd just kicked away any shot at glory for his club in 2022.

In the end, the process of getting to the decision was a debacle. No question about that. But the phone footage from fans over the fence couldn't have been clearer in showing the ball travelling directly over the post. Which is probably what Tom 'thought' he saw as he peered into the lights on the night. Don't tell Dimma, though!

So the outcome was entirely just, even if the means of reaching that decision was an utter farce. Still, with what transpired amongst the posse of Tigers defenders near the goal line in the lead-up to Daniher's goal, it somehow wasn't even the biggest farce on the night by the final siren.

:D
 
Including Lynch himself. Love how their coach went to the 'He couldn't even see it in the lights' as his explanation for why Tom made no protestations whatsoever about the decision. Rather than admitting that even the player kicking the ball had huge concerns that he'd just kicked away any shot at glory for his club in 2022.

In the end, the process of getting to the decision was a debacle. No question about that. But the phone footage from fans over the fence couldn't have been clearer in showing the ball travelling directly over the post. Which is probably what Tom 'thought' he saw as he peered into the lights on the night. Don't tell Dimma, though!

So the outcome was entirely just, even if the means of reaching that decision was an utter farce. Still, with what transpired amongst the posse of Tigers defenders near the goal line in the lead-up to Daniher's goal, it somehow wasn't even the biggest farce on the night by the final siren.

:D
Why was the process a debacle? The umps referred it upstairs straightaway. The evidence was clear. They got an accurate and clearly explained response back in a timely fashion.

Overall I'd prefer if it was just left to the on-field umps. But this was an example of ARC doing precisely what it was designed for.
 
Why was the process a debacle? The umps referred it upstairs straightaway. The evidence was clear. They got an accurate and clearly explained response back in a timely fashion.

Overall I'd prefer if it was just left to the on-field umps. But this was an example of ARC doing precisely what it was designed for.
Not at all. At least not on the basis of the footage the ARC shared with the public.

The footage shown left many people believing that it was inconclusive. And then went against the umpire's call on the ground, rather than staying with that in the absence of conclusive 'proof' to the contrary.

Right decision reached by what appeared to the viewing public to be a seriously arbitrary, hazy (pun fully intended) and flawed process.

Anyway, the technology is still so abysmal as to make these sort of debacles almost commonplace. Absolute joke.
 
Not at all. At least not on the basis of the footage the ARC shared with the public.

The footage shown left many people believing that it was inconclusive. And then went against the umpire's call on the ground, rather than staying with that in the absence of conclusive 'proof' to the contrary.

Right decision reached by what appeared to the viewing public to be a seriously arbitrary, hazy (pun fully intended) and flawed process.

Anyway, the technology is still so abysmal as to make these sort of debacles almost commonplace. Absolute joke.
I admit I wasn't at the ground, but on the tv it seemed pretty clear-cut to me. Two angles showed the ball directly above the post at the same instant. I guess I can see how it would have been difficult to understand for those fans just looking at the big screen at the ground.
 
The ball went over the post, I have seen a fan camera from the crowd show it clear as day, then you have the 3 camera angles ALL from different angles showing the ball over the post ALL at the same time.

"Imagine if a Grand Final was defined by that moment."

Feel like the conversation would go like this...
"Man, I am so glad ARC got the RIGHT CALL on that over the post kick in the Grand Final, it would have been an INJUSTICE to the Premiers if they had lost because the umpires call of a goal was completely wrong. Good job by ARC for not agreeing with the goal umpire who MADE THE WRONG CALL."
 
I admit I wasn't at the ground, but on the tv it seemed pretty clear-cut to me. Two angles showed the ball directly above the post at the same instant. I guess I can see how it would have been difficult to understand for those fans just looking at the big screen at the ground.
All 3 angles when synced up showed the ball above the post. If you have one angle showing that, depth could be misleading. But you have 3 different cameras at 3 completely different angles showing the same thing. Wonder if they have a behind the goal angle too. If they had that, it would be easier to explain this to Caro and Dimwit.
 
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