Non Lions Discussion 2024

[Paul Mac]

Once the umpire sets the mark you can't move back/forward or sideways off the mark.
Think of it as a vertical mark point from the ground upwards.
You often see players looking towards the umpire to ensure they are in the correct spot.
You can jump up and down if you want but be careful you don't accidently move off the mark that is noticeable.
Regarding the 5 meters i can see some benefits at certain points of the ground to move back.
However, in general i don't see much benefit. But that's just my opinion and obviously some coaches see it very differently.

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Ok, but if an umpire calls stand which you hear them say a fair bit i am presuming you can still jump straight up and down even in general play. You dont hear the umpires say stand all the time but i do hear it a fair bit. I would think if you are told to stand then you cant jump up and down in straight line but each interpretation to each umpire i suppose.
Every now and then on Tuesday nights ( daughters netball) i get to have a chat with a current AFL umpire who is doing a great job by the way so i will just ask him what the story is with the stand if the umpire does call stand. Cheers for your data.

 

[Beware The Wounded Lion]

McRae: "I have been a real obvious advocate for umpires and how difficult their job is. But there are times when you get into a game, there's so much on the line and you just get frustrated. I did and I stepped over the mark, I know that."

So did Tom McCartin

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Tom Mccartin

Age

24

Ht

194cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.3

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

129.5

2star

D

7.2

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.2

3star

T

0.8

1star

MG

87.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

168.0

3star

, by 6 metres...

 

[CarterS]

I think he was actually right when he said if that was the 1st, 2nd or 3rd quarter it would have been paid.

 

[M Malice]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...s/news-story/c90a1efbcd1ffc3616be2e631826cc06

‘WOULD ASK FOR A TRADE TOMORROW’: DEES SUPERSTAR ‘DISILLUSIONED’

Melbourne superstar Christian Petracca

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Christian Petracca

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.4

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.5

4star

D

24.4

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.5

3star

T

3.6

4star

CL

3.4

4star

D

19.0

5star

K

7.8

3star

HB

11.2

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.0

4star

is “disillusioned” with the club and “open to a trade”.

While the Demons midfielder is contracted until the end of 2029, and will find it almost impossible to leave, he “would likely ask for a trade tomorrow” if he was coming out of contract according to Nine’s Tom Morris.
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It is Tom Morris though so probably BS.

 

[Elixuh]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...s/news-story/c90a1efbcd1ffc3616be2e631826cc06

‘WOULD ASK FOR A TRADE TOMORROW’: DEES SUPERSTAR ‘DISILLUSIONED’

Melbourne superstar Christian Petracca is “disillusioned” with the club and “open to a trade”.

While the Demons midfielder is contracted until the end of 2029, and will find it almost impossible to leave, he “would likely ask for a trade tomorrow” if he was coming out of contract according to Nine’s Tom Morris.
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It is Tom Morris though so probably BS.

Morris has connections within MFC.

 

[Elixuh]

McRae: "I have been a real obvious advocate for umpires and how difficult their job is. But there are times when you get into a game, there's so much on the line and you just get frustrated. I did and I stepped over the mark, I know that."

So did Tom McCartin, by 6 metres...

“I am an advocate for umpires until one goes against me and then I will call their performance a circus, tell them they got it wrong and blame them for a loss”.

 

[martinson]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...s/news-story/c90a1efbcd1ffc3616be2e631826cc06

‘WOULD ASK FOR A TRADE TOMORROW’: DEES SUPERSTAR ‘DISILLUSIONED’

Melbourne superstar Christian Petracca is “disillusioned” with the club and “open to a trade”.

While the Demons midfielder is contracted until the end of 2029, and will find it almost impossible to leave, he “would likely ask for a trade tomorrow” if he was coming out of contract according to Nine’s Tom Morris.
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It is Tom Morris though so probably BS.

Sell the Farm.

It's not BS. He's a total committed professional and has put up with a lot the last couple of years.

Most likely he's had enough of the culture at the Dees and is putting it out there that things need to change . He'd love to be at a club like us.

One can dream.

 

[Elixuh]

Sell the Farm.

It's not BS. He's a total committed professional and has put up with a lot the last couple of years.

Most likely he's had enough of the culture at the Dees and is putting it out there that things need to change . He'd love to be at a club like us.

One can dream.

No way we could afford him in either picks or cap space. Would love him at the lions for the reasons you’ve said but won’t happen, you wouldn’t think.

 

[martinson]

“I am an advocate for umpires until one goes against me and then I will call their performance a circus, tell them they got it wrong and blame them for a loss”.

Surprises me how much pressure Fly seems to think he's under.

Because he was agitated and out of character Friday night.

Wonder what's going on there.

 

[martinson]

No way we could afford him in either picks or cap space. Would love him at the lions for the reasons you’ve said but won’t happen, you wouldn’t think.

I know. I was just dreaming. But could you imagine. He's just about the best player going and a top bloke as well.

 

[Elixuh]

I know. I was just dreaming. But could you imagine. He's just about the best player going and a top bloke as well.

Dee’s were truly one and done. All setup by Paul Roos, degenerate goodie has run the whole thing into the ground.

 

[martinson]

Dee’s were truly one and done. All setup by Paul Roos, degenerate goodie has run the whole thing into the ground.

There's a lot more that will come out over time.

Internal issues with player discipline and management.

What they gave up to keep Petty was just dumb.

Is Tomlinson any good ? He's one who's out of favour and wants out .

 

[T Rick]

Surprises me how much pressure Fly seems to think he's under.

Because he was agitated and out of character Friday night.

Wonder what's going on there.

I think he has blurred the lines between being a professional coach and a rabid supporter… gets too emotional with losses.

 

[McIvor]

Morris is also saying Jack Viney

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Jack Viney

Age

30

Ht

179cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.1

5star

K

9.4

4star

HB

12.6

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

5.7

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

21.8

5star

K

10.3

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

4.5

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

13.4

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

4.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

could be departing



Obvious link being the old man at North.

 

[martinson]

Morris is also saying Jack Viney could be departing



Obvious link being the old man at North.

Jack and Trac are 2 players who give their all every time they go out there.

Obviously the culture stinks.

Could be some low hanging fruit at the Dees in the off season. Particularly since they've shown they're no geniuses at the trade table.

 

[Elixuh]

Imagine if Trace and Viney left and Goodwin and Oliver remained. Oh lawd. One can only dream.

 

[McIvor]

lol - up the non-Victorian clubs

 

[Perrip]

Buddy Franklin at the SUNS according to Fox Footy

 

[McIvor]

Buddy at the SUNS according to Fox Footy

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And what exactly is an ambassador role other than lining Buddy’s pocket with will what be a generous salary and token role?

 

[Perrip]

And what exactly is an ambassador role other than lining Buddy’s pocket with will what be a generous salary and token role?

Same as what other AFL ambassadors already do - speak in schools, community events, community clubs. Though given how famous he is, you'd expect he'd also be expected to be more involved with the club I guess.

 

[martinson]

Imagine if Trace and Viney left and Goodwin and Oliver remained. Oh lawd. One can only dream

Melbourne will do whatever it takes to keep Trac happy. As they should.

If Goody hadn't won a flag it'd be all over in the off season , but they'll go all out to patch everything up.

I still think it'll fall apart over time. May and Lever aren't much of a threat to anyone any more. Everyone knows Oliver is cooked. Viney isn't going to get any better. Still have to pay for Brayshaw. Gawn looks tired of it all but he's a champ so conceivably might have a couple of years of good footy left. Still don't have a key forward.

I'd be going the rebuild around Petracca but they're carrying a lot of dead wood that won't be easy to shift.

 

[martinson]

Same as what other AFL ambassadors already do - speak in schools, community events, community clubs. Though given how famous he is, you'd expect he'd also be expected to be more involved with the club I guess.

He's not much of a talker.

 

[Elixuh]

Melbourne will do whatever it takes to keep Trac happy. As they should.

If Goody hadn't won a flag it'd be all over in the off season , but they'll go all out to patch everything up.

I still think it'll fall apart over time. May and Lever aren't much of a threat to anyone any more. Everyone knows Oliver is cooked. Viney isn't going to get any better. Still have to pay for Brayshaw. Gawn looks tired of it all but he's a champ so conceivably might have a couple of years of good footy left. Still don't have a key forward.

I'd be going the rebuild around Petracca but they're carrying a lot of dead wood that won't be easy to shift.

Most if not all of Brayshaw is outside of the cap I thought.

 

[martinson]

Most if not all of Brayshaw is outside of the cap I thought.

Yeah I read somewhere that the AFL will foot the bill but never saw any confirmation.

When you look at the powerhouse that was their midfield it's all fallen apart one way or another. Inconceivable at the start of 2022.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Scott Lucas in commentary the last 2 weeks in Essendon's close finishes is hilarious

That's me at all Lions games.