Non-Lions Footy Discussion

[Crimso]

I can only speak based on what I've seen happen to people I know, and all the heavy users all started with marijuana. Not so sure I agree with those articles based on personal experience but there you go.

Were they "heavy" users 'cause they got the munchies a lot?

 

[Hollow Knight]

Portugal is a good example. I don't love the idea, to be honest. But it's the only real solution to the problem.
The whole war on drugs thing has been a massive failure(in the US in particular) and has done more harm than the drugs would've by themselves.

Yeah I don't know what the perfect system is, but the "war on drugs" approach is an abject failure.

Both sides of the war are funded by the same people - the tax payers. So it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy and a massive waste of money.

Not to mention that a lot of the serious social effects of drugs (particularly on innocent bystanders) aren't a direct result of the drugs themselves, but of the criminal element that comes from making them illegal.

Policy nightmare.

No perfect solution but any serious attempt has to be based around education and treating addiction as an illness, not a crime.

 

[JasRulz63]

Good coup by Collingwood to poach Neil Balme. Now I'm sure Eddie will come out and offer generous compensation that he thinks is very important in these sort of deals.

 

[blynd_freddie]

Good coup by Collingwood to poach Neil Balme. Now I'm sure Eddie will come out and offer generous compensation that he thinks is very important in these sort of deals.

Yeah - guessing the spin will be something in the order of an eye for an eye.

 

[Dizzle]

Yeah - guessing the spin will be something in the order of an eye for an eye.

The annoying thing is that they can afford to pay a 'poacher's fee' and then sit back and smugly act like the good guys. The publicity and sense of self-satisfaction would outweigh the $ outlay.

 

[blynd_freddie]

The annoying thing is that they can afford to pay a 'poacher's fee' and then sit back and smugly act like the good guys. The publicity and sense of self-satisfaction would outweigh the $ outlay.

Not sure? If said equalisation were able to lock the scum into an annual budget then the fine for a 'poachers fee' should hurt? But over-all agree with you, they'd still find some way to weasel out of it.

 

[SugarCoat]

Not sure? If said equalisation were able to lock the scum into an annual budget then the fine for a 'poachers fee' should hurt? But over-all agree with you, they'd still find some way to weasel out of it.

Balme having no contract with Geelong is a good starting point.

 

[blynd_freddie]

Balme having no contract with Geelong is a good starting point.

At what stage did it end? He was/is still working there?

 

[SugarCoat]

At what stage did it end? He was/is still working there?

Blame is on public record that he doesn't believe in contracts.
He never had one at Collingwood.
He also never had one at Geelong.
It's just the way he operates, very old school.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Sugarcoat must hammer the BigFooty search function daily with every Collingwood related keyword.

Collingwood version of the Iraqi Information Minister.

 

[blynd_freddie]

Blame is on public record that he doesn't believe in contracts.
He never had one at Collingwood.
He also never had one at Geelong.
It's just the way he operates, very old school.

Sounds like an old school mercenary rule to me. Will be interesting to see if the pies have the balls to agree to an ongoing handshake agreement going forward... Guess we could see a Balme to GWS in 2016 when Gubby leaves?

 

[QAFL_Fan]

Sugarcoat must hammer the BigFooty search function daily with every Collingwood related keyword.

Collingwood version of the Iraqi Information Minister.

1200 posts in 2 months.

At this rate he will catch you in 10 years! (if you stop posting)

 

[Hollow Knight]

Somewhat missed the point, but nevermind.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Sounds like Hirdy's appeal is going well...


... for ASADA.

 

[James North]

Blame is on public record that he doesn't believe in contracts.
He never had one at Collingwood.
He also never had one at Geelong.
It's just the way he operates, very old school.

Now that's GOT to be a haiku!

 

[Mr Ripper]

Sought by Pete Murray
James North is in high demand
Except by Schwabby

 

[Football Pope]

Blame is on public record that he doesn't believe in contracts.
He never had one at Collingwood.
He also never had one at Geelong.
It's just the way he operates, very old school.

Not true...Point to note, most clubs happily give their blessing to personal moving from club to club... and don't go looking to steal from one of the new kids on the blocks, lunch money...like Lard arse Ed does...

Balme leaves Geelong with the club's blessing and, as the contracts of Cats' senior officials roll over year by year, there was no need to sort out any compensation for his departure.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-10/pies-poach-balme

 

[Viceregal]

Not true...Point to note, most clubs happily give their blessing to personal moving from club to club... and don't go looking to stea froml one of the new kids on the blocks, lunch money...like Lard arse Ed does...



http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-10/pies-poach-balme

Wasn't the point of the compensation to cover the costs of sourcing and gaining the replacement with little to no notice - if you having a rolling year to year contract there is still the expectation that one or the other side would provide some degree of warning if they were planning on not being a party to roll-over? In Geelong's case the need to find the replacement for the guy who is stepping up to take Balme's position ...

 

[western royboy]

Wasn't the point of the compensation to cover the costs of sourcing and gaining the replacement with little to no notice - if you having a rolling year to year contract there is still the expectation that one or the other side would provide some degree of warning if they were planning on not being a party to roll-over? In Geelong's case the need to find the replacement for the guy who is stepping up to take Balme's position ...

Balme told Brian Cook when Brian Cook enquired, whether he had been approached by them. Because they are a well run operation with succession plans in place, Geelong had a man ready to go (Steven Hocking) and so requested Balmey serve out his four weeks and finish off his draft work before moving to Collingwood.

Balme has continued to live in Melbourne for family reasons and has always been upfront. Brian Cook has no peer as a CEO, it will be a seamless transition and they will thank Balme for his efforts and contribution and wish him all the best. What would Collingwood do?

 

[SugarCoat]

Not true...Point to note, most clubs happily give their blessing to personal moving from club to club... and don't go looking to stea froml one of the new kids on the blocks, lunch money...like Lard arse Ed does...



http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-10/pies-poach-balme

Balme had no contract in an AFL sense.
He had a rolling agreement each season the same as any employee does at their workplace in regards to giving notice.
At the end of each season, Balme would sit down with Cook and re-commit to the club for that year.
There was no such agreement for the 2015 season.
Eade had a 3 year contract with contractual terms (unlike Balme) and was one year into it at Collingwood.
Apples & oranges.

 

[winged1]

Balme had no contract in an AFL sense.
He had a rolling agreement each season the same as any employee does at their workplace in regards to giving notice.
At the end of each season, Balme would sit down with Cook and re-commit to the club for that year.
There was no such agreement for the 2015 season.
Eade had a 3 year contract with contractual terms (unlike Balme) and was one year into it at Collingwood.
Apples & oranges.

You have to acknowledge the hypocrisy of criticising the Gold Coast for taking Eade and then doing exactly the same thing to Geelong. I mean you can try to argue semantics, but in reality Collingwood has just taken another clubs employee.

 

[SugarCoat]

You have to acknowledge the hypocrisy of criticising the Gold Coast for taking Eade and then doing exactly the same thing to Geelong. I mean you can try to argue semantics, but in reality Collingwood has just taken another clubs employee.

Where exactly is Collingwood going to source an employee to replace Eade?
They aren't semantics, there are major differences in a contracted executive and a non contracted one.

 

[winged1]

Where exactly is Collingwood going to source an employee to replace Eade?
They aren't semantics, there are major differences in a contracted executive and a non contracted one.

OK so Collingwood bitch and moan about GC taking one of their employees and then do the same thing to another club, because it is their god given right? That is hypocritical. I just want acknowledgement of that point.

 

[SugarCoat]

OK so Collingwood bitch and moan about GC taking one of their employees and then do the same thing to another club, because it is their god given right? That is hypocritical. I just want acknowledgement of that point.

Collingwood didn't bitch and moan about GC taking Eade.
They were happy to release him and give him his blessing when they were compensated by GC.
When you induce a contracted executive to break his contract there is always costs associated with such a movement.

 

[Football Pope]

Balme had no contract in an AFL sense.
He had a rolling agreement each season the same as any employee does at their workplace in regards to giving notice.
At the end of each season, Balme would sit down with Cook and re-commit to the club for that year.
There was no such agreement for the 2015 season.
Eade had a 3 year contract with contractual terms (unlike Balme) and was one year into it at Collingwood.
Apples & oranges.

Don't know what substances you may be taking down at Collingwood..Or whether Ed has got his own McGuire dictionary going on?... Use what ever synonym you want... an arrangement, an understanding, an obligation, a pact or even a promise....it is still a contract..