North Melbourne Priority Pick 2021

[Lach72]

North beat us…and we’ve been shit since 2016 in all bar one year…any PP for us?

didn’t think so…

 

[VinnieB]

Send them to Tassie and give them 10 priority picks. Two birds one stone.

Tassie doesn't want them.

 

[Juddernaut08]

funny thing is, the dees have an extra first rounder this year

 

[Mofra]

I've said this before, but I'd prefer North be given a bunch of later picks, like second rounders, than a top 'priority' pick.

North don't need a single star 18 year old - they've got Sheezel racking up 30 touches like a 200 gamer and are still getting flogged. What would be better for them is to get multiple good solid players (either by draft or trade) to fill the obvious multiple holes they have.

Someone like a Griffin Logue type - no superstar, but a very solid addition that filled a key hole.

Other clubs might also be more willing to get on board if it was a bunch of later picks, instead of 'missing out' on a top pick.

Logue was a further top 10 pick though for Freo.

 

[RonnieRaven]

North beat us…and we’ve been s**t since 2016 in all bar one year…any PP for us?

didn’t think so…

Worse then that they poached our top 10 pick from 2016 with a priority pick they got last year.
They were fighting for the flag in 2016.
Since freos last priority pick (we recieved In our 5th year in the comp)
Eagles have won a flag got priority picks and won another flag)
They should be done with!
I can’t believe some fans are begging for priority picks after a few years in the wilderness.
Freo have been in the wilderness for 26 of our 29 years in existence.
I haven’t seen a freo pick thread

 

[Juddernaut08]

coach swap with blues?

 

[VinnieB]

But North Melbourne kinda have been denied talent through F/S and NGA Academy compromisation. Let’s be honest, Daicos was the number 1 pick in the 2021 draft and Ashcroft was the number 1 pick in the 2022 draft. North would’ve had access to Daicos and Ashcroft if the draft was a completely open draft. They would also have access to one of Thilthorpe or JUH as well if JUH wasn’t tied to Bulldogs.

So you could argue that they were denied access to high end talent because Daicos and Ashcroft are looking really good right now. One of Thilthorpe/JUH would’ve set their KPF stocks up quite well too.

Apart from Twomey, practically everyone else had JHF as number 1. So, I think they still would have gone for him.
Ashcroft? Probably. Although, they have only seemed to draft midfielders. Cadman is really who they needed.

In any case, it's a lottery whether pick 1, 2 or 3 is the better player.
We still haven't seen Wardlaw and George. It may be their new recruitment team is now on the right track.

Choosing Phillips at 3 could hurt. Macdonald was still there once JUH and Tilthorpe were taken. In fact, Adelaide may have only chosen Tilthorpe because he was local. Macdonald was considered as high or even higher a key position prospect.

But bringing in Coleman-Jones for a 2nd round pick hasn't worked out.
Alot of clubs have found valuable players in the mid-season drafts. what have North got to show for them? They practically had the 1st couple of picks in each of them over the past few years.

Maybe the issue is with their development program? Maybe an increase in the soft cap s the only concession they receive.

Lucky Sheezal extended his contract.

 

[Dazb86]

Apart from Twomey, practically everyone else had JHF as number 1. So, I think they still would have gone for him.
Ashcroft? Probably. Although, they have only seemed to draft midfielders. Cadman is really who they needed.

In any case, it's a lottery whether pick 1, 2 or 3 is the better player.
We still haven't seen Wardlaw and George. It may be their new recruitment team is now on the right track.

Choosing Phillips at 3 could hurt. Macdonald was still there once JUH and Tilthorpe were taken. In fact, Adelaide may have only chosen Tilthorpe because he was local. Macdonald was considered as high or even higher a key position prospect.

But bringing in Coleman-Jones for a 2nd round pick hasn't worked out.
Alot of clubs have found valuable players in the mid-season drafts. what have North got to show for them? They practically had the 1st couple of picks in each of them over the past few years.

Maybe the issue is with their development program? Maybe an increase in the soft cap s the only concession they receive.

Lucky Sheezal extended his contract.

Give Phillips some time. Had a bit of an interupted run so far. Early signs aren't great but you don't go pick 3 without talent.

I feel like the sides turned the corner regardless. Melbourne are just lightyears ahead of the bottom sides especially when 'on'

 

[VinnieB]

Give Phillips some time. Had a bit of an interupted run so far. Early signs aren't great but you don't go pick 3 without talent.

I feel like the sides turned the corner regardless. Melbourne are just lightyears ahead of the bottom sides especially when 'on'

That's true.
It will be interesting to see if he re-signs come contract time. As a pick 3, he may feel the club isn't helping (rightly or wrongly) get the best out of himself. To be in and out of the side doesn't help.

 

[Lsta062]

North had access to the actual number 1 pick last year (Cadman) but traded away the pick. Had they kept that pick they could have bid on Ashcroft. They also decided not to bid on Daicos and picked up the actual number 1 pick of 2021, JHF. Those are facts.

The only player who jumped ahead of their original pick has been JUH, is this why they they deserve a priority pick?

I personally didn’t make the argument that they should get a priority pick because they didn’t have access to the best talent. I was just responding to a poster whose opinion was that priority picks should be given in those circumstances. I think North should get a priority pick because they’re a good chance to finish bottom 2 four years in a row. Melbourne, Hawthorn, Richmond, Carlton, Brisbane, and Collingwood got a priority pick for being uncompetitive for a couple of years. Some teams got one even though they were nowhere near as non-competitive as North Melbourne cough Hawthorn and Collingwood cough

Also, I personally don’t think Cadman was number 1 last year. He only went number 1 because GWS wanted him badly and they made the moves to ensure they get him at that high pick. He could have slipped, but GWS usually don’t mess around when they want to get someone. Cadman was still top 5, but Ashcroft was first IMO. His first year is already showing why he was rated as the number 1 pick for most of last year. It’s possible North would’ve still gone for JHF too, but we really don’t know given that Daicos was tied to Collingwood. In my opinion, it was obvious around draft time that Daicos was the top pick of the draft.

 

[Themanbun]

I've said this before, but I'd prefer North be given a bunch of later picks, like second rounders, than a top 'priority' pick.

North don't need a single star 18 year old - they've got Sheezel racking up 30 touches like a 200 gamer and are still getting flogged. What would be better for them is to get multiple good solid players (either by draft or trade) to fill the obvious multiple holes they have.

Someone like a Griffin Logue type - no superstar, but a very solid addition that filled a key hole.

Other clubs might also be more willing to get on board if it was a bunch of later picks, instead of 'missing out' on a top pick.

Agreed, although historically we are flipping abysmal with second round picks.

 

[Lsta062]

No that’s rubbish.

They’ve had multiple top 10 picks through the regular draft, but they’ve also benefitted from the father/son and NGA they have McDonald and Thomas (it’s not other clubs fault they can’t guide him) as top 10 picks.

They’ve also already received one priority pick.

The already benefited from draft concessions a lot more than other clubs, like Adelaide, who have been rebuilding at the same time.

But other teams like Melbourne still got priority picks even though they grossly mismanaged their list in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Why don’t North Melbourne get the same treatment?

 

[SSSSSS]

But other teams like Melbourne still got priority picks even though they grossly mismanaged their list in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Why don’t North Melbourne get the same treatment?

North did get priority picks. They got a bunch last year.

How long do we have to subsidise North both on field and off field?

 

[Great8]

No doubt the begging will begin early this year. They shouldn’t be given any extra picks this year.

 

[Rich01]

Their list management is abysmal.

Philips over MacDonald was the obvious one where they had to go structure first.

With Comden out, CCJ playing like a log, McKay all but checked out, and a 35 year old playing first ruck, surely they could have prioritised key position players in the last 4 drafts.

It’s been evident for the last couple of years but they continue to ignore talls at the draft.

When they swapped their 23 second rounder for Adelaide’s pick last year there was talk they had eyes on a tall. But in true north fashion they pick a player that will spend this year recovering from injury pre draft. A true indication they don’t really care about short term results. Whig ch is fine, as long as they aren’t rewarded with extra picks for doing so.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Their list management is abysmal.

Philips over MacDonald was the obvious one where they had to go structure first.

With Comden out, CCJ playing like a log, McKay all but checked out, and a 35 year old playing first ruck, surely they could have prioritised key position players in the last 4 drafts.

It’s been evident for the last couple of years but they continue to ignore talls at the draft.

When they swapped their 23 second rounder for Adelaide’s pick last year there was talk they had eyes on a tall. But in true north fashion they pick a player that will spend this year recovering from injury pre draft. A true indication they don’t really care about short term results. Whig ch is fine, as long as they aren’t rewarded with extra picks for doing so.

Tbf Xerri would probably be transitioning into first ruck if he hadn’t got badly injured in round one

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

I personally didn’t make the argument that they should get a priority pick because they didn’t have access to the best talent. I was just responding to a poster whose opinion was that priority picks should be given in those circumstances. I think North should get a priority pick because they’re a good chance to finish bottom 2 four years in a row. Melbourne, Hawthorn, Richmond, Carlton, Brisbane, and Collingwood got a priority pick for being uncompetitive for a couple of years. Some teams got one even though they were nowhere near as non-competitive as North Melbourne cough Hawthorn and Collingwood cough

Also, I personally don’t think Cadman was number 1 last year. He only went number 1 because GWS wanted him badly and they made the moves to ensure they get him at that high pick. He could have slipped, but GWS usually don’t mess around when they want to get someone. Cadman was still top 5, but Ashcroft was first IMO. His first year is already showing why he was rated as the number 1 pick for most of last year. It’s possible North would’ve still gone for JHF too, but we really don’t know given that Daicos was tied to Collingwood. In my opinion, it was obvious around draft time that Daicos was the top pick of the draft.

GWS need another KPF and they felt he was the least likely flight risk out of all the available top prospects, who would have been gone by the time their first pick was around, which is why they traded up for him

It was a good move from the Giants

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

But other teams like Melbourne still got priority picks even though they grossly mismanaged their list in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Why don’t North Melbourne get the same treatment?

I’ve already explained why.

They often don’t work, and just hurt the other rebuilding clubs around them.
The times that they do have an effect, it’s only limited impact in the short term but create an unfair advantage in the long term.

Giving Gold Coast, Melbourne etc priority picks in the past was a mistake, the afl can’t fix one mistake by making another

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Their list going forwards is still a lot better than the Eagles. West Coast have a rough decade ahead of them.

 

[Rich01]

Tbf Xerri would probably be transitioning into first ruck if he hadn’t got badly injured in round one

That would have been the plan.
But I’m skeptical he’s first ruck quality.

 

[r_boy]

Losing JHF and Thomas preferring to be an influencer have hurt our talent stocks.

McKay looks checked out and will leave a hole in senior talent.

Comben really has a lot of talent and was not unreasonably earmarked as a KPF and its just sad to see him breaking bones continuously.

It's becoming an eternal rebuild and the player morale just seems so low that more will want to leave soon, perpetuating more low morale etc. etc.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Tbh Melbourne are very likely to win the flag again this season (very least make the Grand Final) and obviously the players were shell shocked by that tragic and horrific injury to poor Charlie Comben, they are not the last time that will be annihilated this season.

North will still win 3 or 4 more games this season (maybe more), things are not as grim as they seem now, and they will be a better team in the second half of The season. Esp once the likes of Wardlaw debut.

 

[r_boy]

Tbh Melbourne are very likely to win the flag again this season (very least make the Grand Final) and obviously the players were shell shocked by that tragic and horrific injury to poor Charlie Comben, they are not the last time that will be annihilated this season.

North will still win 3 or 4 more games this season (maybe more), things are not as grim as they seem now, and they will be a better team in the second half of The season. Esp once the likes of Wardlaw debut.

Wardlaw will probably ping a hammy game 1 knowing our luck

 

[Blackas87]

But they may not have put the bid in because they could’ve wanted to give the player they picked (i.e. JHF) the number 1 selection. I think there is some cash bonus for the player that is picked at number 1. Not all clubs care, but that’s a good reason to go with the available player you want to pick at number 1.

Also, would they have traded their first pick if Ashcroft was available to them? I don’t really think they would have tbh.

JHF was well worthy of a number 1 selection, there was hype about him all year as becoming the next star of the comp compared to Fyfe and Petracca. Let not pretend they did this just to give him a cash bonus.

Yeah they probably would have traded it as the Giants were always selecting Cadman. North though could have just selected Sheezel at pick 1 and given him the cash bonus but it seems North is one of those clubs that doesn’t care about doing this.

 

[Cunnington Cartel]

North didn’t place a bid on Sam Darcy, or Nick Daicos for that matter.

North also trade away pick one last year.

That’s a very simplistic way to look at what unfolded. Throughout his draft year JHF consistently said that he wanted to go pick #1. North, knowing that they wouldn’t be able to get Daicos or Darcy anyway, took JHF’s wishes on board and selected him with pick 1. That doesn’t necessarily mean that they didn’t rate Daicos or Darcy higher than him.