North Melbourne Priority Pick 2021

[north_lad]

That's because your club actually has pride, and despite all the horrific off field BS that's occurred in recent years, you've managed to rebuild on your own two feet - and it's already paying dividends. That's how a club should be run - not running to mummy and daddy AFL house, in order to get handouts to fix their mistakes. Kudos

Literally, when have we ever done that? ****ing relax chief

 

[ferball]

I will still hold the same position if we are winning a 5th straight spoon in 6 years.

It is a competition, if you can not build a list properly you do not deserve to be handed picks to do it for you.

I'd agree with you but if the league is potentially offering we'd be fools not to chase them. Its a competition and denying yourself advantages your opponents are already taking is not taking it seriously enough.

If they abolished them tomorrow for everyone I wouldn't care.

 

[Leeda]

not a chance ( this year )
self-inflicted, need to work their own way out of it

suck city.. the roos are writing their own epitaph... if they don't get on board with a few..
saturation point is nigh and they are rubbing the wrong shoulders..

statute is high....

 

[ferball]

So the AFL should give you a priority pick because by your own admission, you f*cked up your strategy? You do realize that being 'mired in mediocrity' is not a reason for the AFL to have to step in. Draft better. Trade better. Recruit staff better. It's your own organization's fault, and you shouldn't just be able to get handouts because you're not competitive enough anymore - due to your club's awful set of decisions.

That's like burning your house down and then going 'oh I didn't realize I didn't have insurance, please donate to my cause as I'm too stupid to manage my finances and affairs like a grown adult.'

You shouldn't want a priority pick if you want to actually be a club that stands on its own two feet. If you do want one, then you're basically saying that you are at the AFL's behest, and that makes you that much more likely to be the team that gets relocated - as you need the AFL to make your decisions for you.

No the AFL should give us one if they hand them out to other teams in similar positions. Not for any other reason.

This is what i wrote upthread.

What really matters is a footy department with a clue. For the first time in a decade it looks like we may have one of those.

We have enough young talent now. We recruited back into the drafts we should have rebuilt in anyway, 2017 and 18. If we develop it well enough then we'll be a powerful side in a few years. If we don't then what good would a priority pick really be anyway?

 

[HinkleysHeroes]

First access to all Tasmanians for 3years after their move there? /S

I don't think they should get one this year but if they go under 6 wins for two years then I would not be totally against it.

I don't actually like the idea of priority picks for any team. Get your draft and trades right when it is your team's turn down the bottom and all will turn around without extra help.

 

[Virgin Dog]

Gold Coast got the priority package due to existing for 10 years and never finishing higher than 12th. North made finals in 2016, and narrowly missed in 2018.

With the way this year is going, if they replicate this form in 2022, I'd support a priority package. However, much like when a business goes into voluntary administration, an independent party should step in to make decisions on behalf of North to get them on track. It's what should have happened with Gold Coast. No more PPs without serious strings attached.

 

[Shadow89]

Literally, when have we ever done that? ******* relax chief

I'm saying 'if' you ask for a priority pick - not historically. Hasn't happened yet. More citing all teams that have gone to the AFL for a priority pick, than citing your current situation.

 

[Shadow89]

No the AFL should give us one if they hand them out to other teams in similar positions. Not for any other reason.

This is what i wrote upthread.

What really matters is a footy department with a clue. For the first time in a decade it looks like we may have one of those.

We have enough young talent now. We recruited back into the drafts we should have rebuilt in anyway, 2017 and 18. If we develop it well enough then we'll be a powerful side in a few years. If we don't then what good would a priority pick really be anyway?

That's fair, but to be honest, I don't think if you as a club want to maintain your position as an independent club - that you should be going down that road. Just because it's on offer, doesn't mean that the optics would be good attached to it would be good for your club - as it is an admission that you've failed as an administration and can't manage your affairs yourselves. Not what you want with all the BS surrounding moving you guys to Tassie.

 

[Instincts]

Priority picks really don't change much in the grand scheme of things and it can only a take one or two off seasons before things change for the better by a drastic amount on field

Port turned a uninspiring middle of the road list into a formidable one from 2018-2020

Brisbane made all the right calls from 2016-2019.

Just a couple of examples of how things can change quickly. If we are asking for a PP now I would be fuming at this surrender

 

[ferball]

To that North guys defence, the Saints have been 'mired in mediocrity' for the entire time I've been alive, yet the AFL steps in regularly.

Sometimes struggling clubs need a leg up.

The reality is we're in a better position than it looks. The cuts we made improved our list. We brought in alot of players and some are already contributing. We've had a lot of upheaval but have a clear strategy on and off field and can see it starting to be implemented.

We've been smashed by injuries again but on the flip side of that we are gonna get good draft picks because of it. Jason Horne looks good.

But we also have players who are taking the opportunity in the face of adversity. Our backline has a bunch of young players stepping up and that will serve our development well. They wouldn't have been forced into that position with a fit backline. They might not have got games, now they may hold their spots when they injured guys come back.

We probably don't really need one but would be fools not to ask.

 

[projectv]

They really don't. They need to be more professional as an organization. You guys are heading down the same road at the moment, after throwing all your money at Brad Hill, Brad Crouch, Dan Butler, Jack Higgins, Dougal Howard, Dan Hannebery, Paddy Ryder etc. If it doesn't reap you benefits - as it appears to not be at the moment - will you guys go back to the AFL for assistance, or will you try and fix things yourself?

Any club has the right to ask for a priority pick. If we fell into that situation then sure. If Geelong did, then sure. Doesn't mean the AFL have to grant it.

Just like how I'm totally fine with AFL + Governments forking out millions of dollars for a regional Victorian town to have its own boutique stadium. A stable competition means everyone wins.

 

[Virgin Dog]

The reality is we're in a better position than it looks. The cuts we made improved our list. We brought in alot of players and some are already contributing. We've had a lot of upheaval but have a clear strategy on and off field and can see it starting to be implemented.

We've been smashed by injuries again but on the flip side of that we are gonna get good draft picks because of it. Jason Horne looks good.

But we also have players who are taking the opportunity in the face of adversity. Our backline has a bunch of young players stepping up and that will serve our development well. They wouldn't have been forced into that position with a fit backline. They might not have got games, now they may hold their spots when they injured guys come back.

We probably don't really need one but would be fools not to ask.

Another important point to consider is that North's financials have improved every year for the last 5+ years. Contrast with the Saints, whose debt situation is worsening, North is actually in a reasonable position right now in that sense.

 

[Kuuz]

My biggest issue with giving a priority pick to North, is they have directly lead to their own demise this season by gutting a chunk of their senior players. The result was inevitable when they could only replace those games with inexperience.

Compare that to the Suns who continually were gutted due to losing players to free agency who were starting to hit their straps.

 

[master bate]

The midseason draft this year is effectively a priority pick.

I'd be shocked if North don't get someone that most clubs would rate at least in the top 30 picks, and that somewhere in the draft there isn't an absolute bargain.

Most years there's a good 19 year old and that should be even more so with the Victorian's missing all of last year.

 

[brutus76]

If they move to Tassie yes and give 'em dibs on Tassie kids

Otherwise **** no

 

[falcons2]

If North continue their current form and don't beat Hawthorn then I would suggest they get a second draft at 11, before the teams that made finals. That said, putting games won quotas only leads to tanking talk so stay away.
Boofheads arguing over club histories is of no relevance to this thread so those types need to go away.

Perhaps a better thread or question is should the draft be a sequence of pick's determined by ladder position to create draft rounds?
If 18th got picks 1, 10 & 30, 17th picks 2, 12, 32, 16th picks 3, 14, 35 or a similar pattern, maybe transitions would be quicker and this continual question of priority picks will disappear forever for all clubs.

 

[raskolnikov]

Can't we have 4 priority picks and a zone like Gold Coast?

Only if you're prepared to lose most of them after spending 3 or 4 years developing them.

 

[telsor]

What do they need it for?

North fans have been telling us about their incredible yoof for years now.

Surely with all that talent, more would just be overkill.

 

[Bluelegs]

I don't like that priority picks are decided within a season based on the AFL's whim. Hurts every other club behind them especially the other sides rebuilding. I don't really like priority picks at all but if we're going to have them I'd prefer every team who doesn't make finals get an extra pick before the first round of the draft. I think that would be a better solution as it wouldn't beg teams to tank like the old system and clubs could actually plan their list more effectively.

 

[north_lad]

What do they need it for?

North fans have been telling us about their incredible yoof for years now.

Surely with all that talent, more would just be overkill.

NMFC recruiting department in the 2010s

 

[telsor]

NMFC recruiting department in the 2010s

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I'm just going on what North fans keep claiming, year after year.

I hear that Ziebell lad will be better than Dusty when he gets going!

 

[Sweet Jesus]

NMFC recruiting department in the 2010s

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Needs more war chest.

 

[north_lad]

I'm just going on what North fans keep claiming, year after year.

I hear that Ziebell lad will be better than Dusty when he gets going!

Probably is actually going better than Dusty the last few weeks, better ****ing ten years late than never I guess

 

[master bate]

My biggest issue with giving a priority pick to North, is they have directly lead to their own demise this season by gutting a chunk of their senior players. The result was inevitable when they could only replace those games with inexperience.

Compare that to the Suns who continually were gutted due to losing players to free agency who were starting to hit their straps.

In fairness to them Brown (nothing) and Higgins (next to nothing) - the players they traded - have contributed less than Aidan Corr, Stephenson, Menadue, Young and Atu.

Majak was a late pick up who probably would only give them what Tom Campbell is giving them, Wood can't be counted as a loss. None of the others got picked up by other clubs.

So really it was more the drastic nature of their first wave of delistings that was shocking than the eventual result which was 5 national draft picks, 1 rookie pick up and 5 players bought in with AFL experience. Adelaide by comparison also added 6 kids, 2 slightly older guys in Rowe and Murray and only 2 who had been on AFL lists in Hately and Hinge.

North are 15th for average age and 13th for average games. 4 guys over 30, 14 over 26. So they aren't all that young either.

Their biggest issue right now seems to be adapting to a new coach and building a more consistent 22 to take them forward, although signs have been a lot more positive the last few weeks.

 

[ferball]

That's fair, but to be honest, I don't think if you as a club want to maintain your position as an independent club - that you should be going down that road. Just because it's on offer, doesn't mean that the optics would be good attached to it would be good for your club - as it is an admission that you've failed as an administration and can't manage your affairs yourselves. Not what you want with all the BS surrounding moving you guys to Tassie.

We're not going to Tassie. I think that boat has sailed.

They don't want us anyway.

Some would say our admin had failed. We've turned over alot of off field staff as well. I trust the people running the club now to make good decisions in its best interests. That has basically been happening since we sacked Scott. I'm not really concerned about the optics cos if we are successful it won't matter and if we aren't ... then it probably won't matter either. We need to make this work.