North Melbourne Priority Pick 2021

[ferball]

Unfortunately for North fans, Ben Buckley and Jade Rawlings strike me as blokes who have too much pride/stubbornness to go asking to the AFL for a PP. Just my opinion.

That might be why we sacked him last year.

 

[Del191229]

So you can engineer sh*t football by off loading half the team and then claim a Priority Pick? Come back in 5 years and we'll reassess!!

Worked for Hawthorn in the early 00s, so yes.

 

[Bald]

Happy for the AFL to add another pick on to their second round pick but leave the first round untouched.

 

[RAPPA]

I get the rebuild aspect and the immediate hard times ahead for this year, but geez they created a rod for their own back by culling so many players from their list...

 

[Heaps of fun]

It's happening. Prepare your tears.

 

[Joao]

Nothing in the top 10, it's compromised as it is. Otherwise I don't care even though the principle is stupid.

 

[Sphynx]

To everyone saying it should be 2 years or more....


How much further do we go?

We've currently lost 14 in a row and won 1 of our last 21 games, with another 16 rounds to go in the season.

We might conceivably go 2/37 games.

That absolutely qualifies historically.

Also, i think the following clubs supporters can refrain from this discussion: Melbourne, Carlton, Hawthorn, Collingwood, West Coast, Richmond, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs, Fremantle, GC - as they all look like absolute hypocrites having all received Pick 3 or better in the past. Some of them multiple times.

We also might conceivably not get Pick #1 this year after finishing last, just as we didn't get pick #2 last year after finishing 17th.

 

[Frank Grimes]

A tad too early for a PP. Maybe if they have a bottom 4 finish this year and in 2022 they get a priority pick before rnd2 of the draft.

 

[boncer34]

To everyone saying it should be 2 years or more....


How much further do we go?

We've currently lost 14 in a row and won 1 of our last 21 games, with another 16 rounds to go in the season.

We might conceivably go 2/37 games.

That absolutely qualifies historically.

Also, i think the following clubs supporters can refrain from this discussion: Melbourne, Carlton, Hawthorn, Collingwood, West Coast, Richmond, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs, Fremantle, GC - as they all look like absolute hypocrites having all received Pick 3 or better in the past. Some of them multiple times.

We also might conceivably not get Pick #1 this year after finishing last, just as we didn't get pick #2 last year after finishing 17th.

All under the current system?

 

[Frank Grimes]

Also, i think the following clubs supporters can refrain from this discussion: Melbourne, Carlton, Hawthorn, Collingwood, West Coast, Richmond, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs, Fremantle, GC - as they all look like absolute hypocrites having all received Pick 3 or better in the past. Some of them multiple times.

The majority of the clubs you listed recieved the priority picks under the old criteria. The criteria has changed because clubs were exploiting the system by tanking.

It is noted clubs such as GC has recieved a priority pick, but they were a lot worse than North for longer. They were also bleeding players in their prime (or about to hit their prime) to other clubs they wanted to keep. Most of the players North lost are due to retirement or towards the end of their careers.

 

[juss]

Simple question - should they get one?
Since 2012 the AFL have some 'discretionary formula' for handing out PPs consisting of wins in previous seasons, on-field prospects, list age, astrology charts and a rough measure of just how much Darcy "likes the way the list goes about it".

They might snag a win or two from here but they are a firmly developing side who would have certainly qualified for some form of assistance under the old formula. They are also 'carrying the can' in less desirable timeslots so some would argue deserve some from of goodwill on that measure as well.

Should they get a priority pick and if so, which pick(s)?

Aside from the fact that IMO no club should receive PPs under an undisclosed (e.g. Make it up as we feel like it) non-transparent formula.

Re North Melbourne, they won 10 games and contested for the 8 in 2019. They are down these last 2 years but they are rebuilding under a new coach. Not too long before that, they made consecutive PFs. Given some of the other finals/winning finals droughts for teams, I wouldn't have them in the frame for a PP this year.

 

[Sphynx]

Aside from the fact that IMO no club should receive PPs under an undisclosed (e.g. Make it up as we feel like it) non-transparent formula.

Re North Melbourne, they won 10 games and contested for the 8 in 2019. They are down these last 2 years but they are rebuilding under a new coach. Not too long before that, they made consecutive PFs. Given some of the other finals/winning finals droughts for teams, I wouldn't have them in the frame for a PP this year.

In 2017 we missed the spoon by beating Brisbane in the last round, but still finished equal last on points.

It has not been a 1 year drop.

 

[Sttew]

To everyone saying it should be 2 years or more....


How much further do we go?

We've currently lost 14 in a row and won 1 of our last 21 games, with another 16 rounds to go in the season.

We might conceivably go 2/37 games.

That absolutely qualifies historically.

Also, i think the following clubs supporters can refrain from this discussion: Melbourne, Carlton, Hawthorn, Collingwood, West Coast, Richmond, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs, Fremantle, GC - as they all look like absolute hypocrites having all received Pick 3 or better in the past. Some of them multiple times.

We also might conceivably not get Pick #1 this year after finishing last, just as we didn't get pick #2 last year after finishing 17th.

My view. At best, if North finishes last, then they get No. 1 Draft pick. But no Priority pick on top of the No.1 pick as it will set a dangerous precedent.

 

[juss]

In 2017 we missed the spoon by beating Brisbane in the last round, but still finished equal last on points.

It has not been a 1 year drop.

Which brings me to my next point: Be better.

Plenty of basket case clubs, including mine, have gone through far worse shit periods of no success. An extra kid that you will muff the pick because the house and staff aren't in order isn't going to help them.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Spare us the sob story/entitlement to get one North fans.

You have not been down enough yet to qualify for one (least first round pick)

You made the decision to cull your list of so many senior players in one hit, and you should not, and will not be rewarded for it.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I'd be happy with an end of first round PP, but not in the first round. The mid season draft is North's PP this year.

 

[Sphynx]

Which brings me to my next point: Be better.

Plenty of basket case clubs, including mine, have gone through far worse sh*t periods of no success. An extra kid that you will muff the pick because the house and staff aren't in order isn't going to help them.

Yes, you also received the #1 draft pick as a priority pick

Lol, very rich considering Noah Balta is still on your list and a direct result of your original PP.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Yes, you also received the #1 draft pick as a priority pick

Lol, very rich considering Noah Balta is still on your list and a direct result of your original PP.

Pretty sure Tambling was the player Richmond got with their PP, not Deledio.

Nonetheless, it's still straw man argument to suggest Richmond got Balta cause of their PP.

Every other club had a chance to pick Balta up,. I don't see what point you are trying to make? If was great recruiting by Richmond, that's all.

 

[juss]

Yes, you also received the #1 draft pick as a priority pick

Lol, very rich considering Noah Balta is still on your list and a direct result of your original PP.

When did we get a number 1 PP?

We got Tambling with pick 4 15 years ago.... and our picks were under the old clearer system, not the AFL make it up one.

Noah Balta started playing well after we had already turned it around, we had 2 flags before he got a decent look in, so no we didn't rely on him to change the fortunes, we got our shit sorted first.

 

[Frank Grimes]

Lol, very rich considering Noah Balta is still on your list and a direct result of your original PP.

Excuse my ignorance, but how did we get Noah Balta as a result of a PP to us?

 

[Fat Tony!]

I think the Kangas need a package of picks like the Gold Coast received to be competitive in the near/medium term future.

I might change my tune if we lose to them this weekend however.

 

[Sttew]

I think the Kangas need a package of picks like the Gold Coast received to be competitive in the near/medium term future.

I might change my tune if we lose to them this weekend however.

What sort of a dangerous precedent does this create? Off load footballers no longer wanted, become uncompetitive, and your reward will be a package of picks.

 

[Joao]

So every time a team totally misjudges their list, tops up with potatoes and surprisingly, doesn't get near it and falls in a heap, they get a PP? It is ****ing dumb. Leaving aside the fact that adding 18yos in no way helps you be competitive in the short term.

That's the exact opposite of how risk should work. You shouldn't be rewarded with a safety net for taking a higher risk. I am sure they wouldn't have given away their 1st rounder had it worked and they won the flag.

Gold Coast makes sense to some extent because the place could literally fail and the market is worth a mint to the AFL. Any established heartland clubs, stiff ****, including my own. You get yourself into a mess, you get yourself out of it.

Send a decent administrator their way instead.

 

[Sphynx]

When did we get a number 1 PP?

We got Tambling with pick 4 15 years ago.... and our picks were under the old clearer system, not the AFL make it up one.

Noah Balta started playing well after we had already turned it around, we had 2 flags before he got a decent look in, so no we didn't rely on him to change the fortunes, we got our sh*t sorted first.

Brett Deledio was formally the no.1 PP, not Tambling, regardless of who you would have taken if you only had one. If you didn’t have a PP, Deledio wouldn’t have been available as there were multiple PP’s awarded that year and those picks would have preceded your first live pick which you used on Tambling.


The trade that you undertook with GWS for Brett Deledio ended up being Noah Balta.

So the remnants of the PP still lives on Richmonds list...

Just as the remnants of West Coasts PP still lives on in theirs in Josh Kennedy.

 

[Fat Tony!]

What sort of a dangerous precedent does this create? Off load footballers no longer wanted, become uncompetitive, and your reward will be a package of picks

The Kangaroos finished second bottom last year with all the footballers they offloaded. They were no good anyway and going backwards with an ageing list.

And the Ben Brown nor Shaun Higgins trades don't look so bad given that neither player has had an impact this year.