Traded Ollie Henry - Traded to Geelong as part of a reported 3-way deal (details tbc)

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How can someone be homesick from a mere 1 hour drive away? IDK.

Comfort zone must be extremely limited.

Or is Ollie just holding the integrity of the system to ransom to glory hunt a flag?

Pretty selfish.
Is it okay if I get foodsick when I live 200 meters from Aldi, subway, pizza shop, three fish and chip shops, Indian shop, Chinese shop, kebab shop, McDonald’s and kfc?
 

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Cal Twomey just said Collingwood wanted more than Pick 18? So isn't it Collingwoods fault we are in this position and if they had just taken that when offered things would be fine?
Yes. If Collingwood had folded and given in to Geelongs demands then things would be fine.
 
Grundy played 7 games 🙄
Come on mate. You do know how an average works. Here let me help you.

Grundy played 90% ruck and got 182 hit outs in 6 games for an average of 30.3 hit outs per game
Cox played less then 45% ruck and got 317 hit outs in 18 games for an average of 17.6 hit outs per game
Cameron played less then 45% ruck and got 423 hit outs in 24 games for an average of 17.6 hit outs per game

For the amount of ruck time both Cameron and Cox were overall better then Grundy for tap outs. They played more minutes but on average they both got more ruck hit outs per minute played when averaged across the season. If you doubled Cox or Cameron's ruck time to bring it in line with Grundys per game then they would have been at about 35 hit outs each. Give it up you seam to be in the dark on this one. Both Cameron and Cox are AFL standard ruckmen. Neither is as good as Grundy but you keep digging your hole.
 
The 'go-home' factor is bullshit when it's literally 45 minutes down the road.
No shit sherlock... He just doesn't want to be at your club. Blind freddy can see that.
 
It's intriguing why he is desperate to get out of Collingwood

From my limited dealings with him (a couple of chats) and from others that know him more, he is a shy, introverted kid with a close local network and a brotherly connection to the club. I understand the reasons and am empathetic.

But given all those factors I’d probably undermines this concept he would be happy to be elsewhere.

Realistically he only wants Geelong. No where else.

As a side note, I don’t think the fact we just delisted two of his good mates at the club in the Brown brothers has probably helped.
 
Cal Twomey just said Collingwood wanted more than Pick 18? So isn't it Collingwoods fault we are in this position and if they had just taken that when offered things would be fine?
They played funny buggers and Mackattack turned around and did the deal with GWS for Bruhn first, then snookered Wright by clearing out our futures to bring in Bowes/P7 & protect our F1. Pies played a risky game but it backfired - you can mope or just put it down to a learning experience and be better next time.
 

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It was a really different system. Players didn't nominate for the draft. A contract didn't come with being drafted. Players hadn't agreed to any of the terms and heaps of drafted players never joined the club that drafted them.

The draft gave a club a period of time where they had exclusive rights to sign the kid. Brisbane drafted an unknown kid called Nathan Buckley who had played a season in Darwin in their zone. But that kid hadn't agreed to be part of the draft or abide by it's rules.

Then he went on to tear the Sanfl to shreds and became the hottest non-AFL player in the country, but he had no intention of joining Brisbane, was threatening legal action and was going to stay in the Sanfl until Brisbane's signing rights expired if the legal action failed.

The AFL got involved because they didn't want legal action, wanted the best players to join the AFL and also to give some exposure to the struggling Bears and it was agreed that he'd move to Brisbane and be traded after his first year. He wanted to move to Melbourne. North and Collingwood were neck and neck, but Collingwood offered the best trade deal to the Bears - any two players from the club, outside 10 untouchables and a first round pick.

It wasn't particularly similar to the Ollie situation.
Funnily enough, Graham Wright was the most outspoken in telling Buckley during 1993 that he wasn't wanted at Collingwood due to it meaning two players would be pushed out and the draft pick in that trade was used on Chris Scott.
 
Surely we can't be serious regarding travel times or whatever?
He buys or rents a place in Yarraville, 15mins to work and 45 mins from Geelong (a trip he might make once or perhaps twice a week).

The 'go-home' factor is bullshit when it's literally 45 minutes down the road.

Wants to play with the big bro today.

Home sickness
Environment
Play with brother

3 different reasons in a week, why can't he just say he has supported Geelong and its always been a dream to play with them?

Kid needs to grow up.
 
Bruh...

Your obsession with false equivalences in a thread about Ollie Henry is weird.
there is no such thing as a perfect equivalence. As every situation is different in some way. but most humans have an ability to abstract and compare based on the examples they have at hand and account for the differences.

there is no remotely believable difference in the world that explains away a 27 year old cameron at gws coming off an ordinary year as being worth 3 first round draft picks while a 28 year old grundy is only worth one mid second rounder. neither the partial salary dump or injury/form differences even remotely explain that wide a gap.


its weird how pies supporters are definding It.
 
Grundy is 28 and worth two first rounders. given you are still paying a significant portion of his salary and about to bring in a brownlow medalist and pay his salary it really isnt that much of a salary dump. When you combine The two are you really saving any salary at all? it sounds like more you just didnt want him. A player who should of netted you two first rounders. Cameron was only a year younger and we paid three for him.
Mitchell is having part of his salary part-paid by the hawks
What's your definition of "significant portion of his salary"? Do you have inside knowledge of this?
Grundy might be worth 2 first rounders in isolation but you forgot to mention that he's turning 29 at the start of the season, he's coming off a PCL and ankle injury and most of all, has 5 more years at close to $1m a year
Comparisons to Jezza are nice but irrelevant. Goals win matches not tap outs. And Cameron has delivered on that. Just like Geelong were able to win a flag with a mediocre ruck
Back to Mitchell vs Grundy. We assessed that we had a bigger need for clearance ability than tap outs. To devote a significant portion of the cap to a one-position player who isn't a forward presence made no sense. Besides, we were 13-3 without Grundy this year. And that's without a decent KPF and only one KPD. Sacrifices had to be made.
To be clear I would've loved to have kept Grundy - just not at the contract he was on. Not when he plays in the most brutal position on the ground and his cap liability would hang over us for the next 5 years
 

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