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I have already answered that in your other post.

Voting for just 1 board member is a popularity contest.

Voting for a full board enables members to choose representatives with different skill sets.

Yes but the AFL commission have a caveat over the club because it funds it

You owe the money you pay the price


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Agreed but as the football director, only one on the board with football experience and legend of the club, do you think his opinion would hold much sway?

He’s the only board member that sits on list management and football strategy committees. By design he has an influence by chairing both those committees.
 
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Crikey Marty, you said accountants too prohibitive to get rid of them. Now if they weren’t under contract it’s not prohibitive. If Roo the football director is recommending we don’t renew them and they go against his advice, what’s the point of having Roo on there? Why have anyone with football experience on the board?

You’re arguing for the sake of it.
 
Maybe owing the SANFL was better than owing the AFL


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Given how much the members have paid, why do we have either having the main say?

If this continues, they won't have many members left if they can't have a decent say in the running of our club.
 
Crikey Marty, you said accountants too prohibitive to get rid of them. Now if they weren’t under contract it’s not prohibitive. If Roo the football director is recommending we don’t renew them and they go against his advice, what’s the point of having Roo on there? Why have anyone with football experience on the board?

You’re arguing for the sake of it.
No shit... that is his stick!

Monotonous arguments.
 
Given how much the members have paid, why do we have either having the main say?

If this continues, they won't have many members left if they can't have a decent say in the running of our club.

Whilst their on debt you and I both know that will not happen

And the AFL are under the impression it’s the sport that attracts the punters not the club


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Whilst their on debt you and I both know that will not happen

And the AFL are under the impression it’s the sport that attracts the punters not the club


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It's scheduled to happen.

2028 I think, but someone can correct me.
 
It's scheduled to happen.

2028 I think, but someone can correct me.

Yes it will happen

But the members decide, and if Darren Jarman ran for election he would get in. Because the majority love him, whether he could do the job or not is irrelevant to the majority

And as you know the majority votes you in


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Yes it will happen

But the members decide, and if Darren Jarman ran for election he would get in. Because the majority love him, whether he could do the job or not is irrelevant to the majority

And as you know the majority votes you in


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You are not a member though...
 

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A massive issue is that ultimately the board have much a contempt for their supporters and such a massively unreasonable sense of entitlement.

They act like we should be lucky that they’ve put a team on the field at all, and have absolutely no right to question their decisions or want the team to succeed.
 
A massive issue is that ultimately the board have much a contempt for their supporters and such a massively unreasonable sense of entitlement.

They act like we should be lucky that they’ve put a team on the field at all, and have absolutely no right to question their decisions or want the team to succeed.
Thats because of the structure of the Board

Money coming in the rest doesnt matter to them or even cross their minds
 
A massive issue is that ultimately the board have much a contempt for their supporters and such a massively unreasonable sense of entitlement.

The appointed members probably with the exception of Roo all have two things in common.

-They genuinely believe they have a divine right to be there.
-They don’t love the club. At least not like the members and true believers.


Roo for all his faults does genuinely bleed for the AFC. (That doesn’t excuse him btw, just highlighting a fact.)
 
The appointed members probably with the exception of Roo all have two things in common.

-They genuinely believe they have a divine right to be there.
-They don’t love the club. At least not like the members and true believers.


Roo for all his faults does genuinely bleed for the AFC. (That doesn’t excuse him btw, just highlighting a fact.)
I imagine if you fill your board with a fair number of business people the first things they'll look at to define success is customer base, revenue in and profit. All 3 have been steady or increasing, so we're in a successful period.

On that last point, I genuinely believe that's why he pushed so hard for ex-players like Burton and Hart to be brought back. His belief was to bring in people who loved the club like he did and not to have the guys coming in just to try and take the first job back in Melbourne they could. Part of his problem there was he seemed to favour those who shared his views completely (who were also his mates) and he overrated care at the expense of talent (kinda like Nicks there).
 
I imagine if you fill your board with a fair number of business people the first things they'll look at to define success is customer base, revenue in and profit. All 3 have been steady or increasing, so we're in a successful period.

On that last point, I genuinely believe that's why he pushed so hard for ex-players like Burton and Hart to be brought back. His belief was to bring in people who loved the club like he did and not to have the guys coming in just to try and take the first job back in Melbourne they could. Part of his problem there was he seemed to favour those who shared his views completely (who were also his mates) and he overrated care at the expense of talent (kinda like Nicks there).

Not sure it's that successful a period. Just holding ground with respect to ticket sales, up by less than CPI and sponsorship and corp box revenue is down. Only AFL funding has seen an increase, not sure our board has any influence over this. At balance date 2023, we had $4.8m in current assets and $7.2m in trade creditors. This is not a powerful position, especially for an entity about to enter into significant debt to fund a development. I would argue that given our inherent support, we achieve the most absolute of bare minimums when it comes to customer base, revenue and profit. Adding back our $800k depreciation, our profit was $1.9m. That's pretty mediocre for a club gifted the massive state based following that we inherited. And we don't know how much of that comes from short changing the player and footy dept caps.
 
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4 more years and we owe nothing. Long term it's for the best. Whether or not the board in 2028 changes the constitution to allow a fully member elected board will be interesting.....
 
4 more years and we owe nothing. Long term it's for the best. Whether or not the board in 2028 changes the constitution to allow a fully member elected board will be interesting.....
Dictators to willingly give up power to the people, no strings attached?


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