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I don't think Grant likes many things anymore.
Just a quick side note: Does Malthouse have to be such a douche on these shows? Just answer the bloody questions!
I think a lot of the Melbourne based commentators don't see a lot of the Crows and haven't been keeping in touch with the changes over the last few years so have very limited knowledge to make calls on. I doubt Mike Sheahn or Grant Thomas watch Foxtel replays of Crows games and you guys aren't on the box here all that much.
It makes me laugh, a couple of years ago Walls mid season said he saw us on 1 occasion but didn't thought we would make the finals, I just don't see how you can make a call on a club that you don't watch.
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I've actually seen Mike in South Australia before. Remember that Preseason GF that St. Kilda won against the Crows here? Mike was watching that.
Standing next to me.
In the front bar of The Ed, in Mitcham.
Watching it on TV.
macca23 - great to hear the rumour about Tippett's contract being renegotiated, I'd love it if we were proactive about this, threw money his way to get him to sign a contract that saw him come out of contract long after GC17 could pinch him
I forgot to watch Footy Classified tonight (or is it on Tuesday night this week?), but they probably didn't say much about us anyway. Once again it's not that we won the match, but the other team lost. Anyone who watched the match would have seen that Essendon threw everything they could at us. They didn't lose it due to poor kicking - we had more scoring shots. They didn't lose it due to failing to penetrate a zone or anything, it was the highest scoring match of the round. We were just better.
As for premiership contenders, I doubt it very much, but at least at the moment I don't feel like it's 100% impossible. However, in that instance, we really would require the other team to lose it for us because there's no way we're in Geelong or St. Kilda's league, and I wouldn't bet on us against the Bulldogs either.
I forgot to watch Footy Classified tonight (or is it on Tuesday night this week?), but they probably didn't say much about us anyway. Once again it's not that we won the match, but the other team lost. Anyone who watched the match would have seen that Essendon threw everything they could at us. They didn't lose it due to poor kicking - we had more scoring shots. They didn't lose it due to failing to penetrate a zone or anything, it was the highest scoring match of the round. We were just better.
As for premiership contenders, I doubt it very much, but at least at the moment I don't feel like it's 100% impossible. However, in that instance, we really would require the other team to lose it for us because there's no way we're in Geelong or St. Kilda's league, and I wouldn't bet on us against the Bulldogs either.
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For those of you who missed Footy Classified tonight, including cmndstab :
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Huge call from Craig Hutchinson
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Huge call from Craig Hutchinson
We are in St Kilda's and Bulldogs league. Particularly with this new game style. No way near Geelong.
Ps love Grant Thomas, gives everybody the Ben Cousins everyday of his life.
Ps love Grant Thomas, gives everybody the Ben Cousins everyday of his life.
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A little later on Hutchy gave a "good call" to adding 2 substitutes for game day as a "no brainer decision that will be made", so I'd take it with a grain of salt
I guess it's not on Tuesday night then Thanks for that TD, you're a gun with all the TV stuff you upload for us
Big call from Hutchy, I'm not sure I agree with him but at least I'm now convinced that we deserve to be a top 8 side again. A month ago I'd totally jumped off us for that. Mind you we're still not in the top 8 yet despite three wins in a row - a sign of how much those losses earlier in the season hurt us.
Moonwatcher - I'm sold by St. Kilda, as much as it pains me to admit it. I've always been of the opinion that they are pretenders but pretenders don't win 11 games in a row. Teams have so much trouble scoring against them, same as the Crows back in 06. It would take a monumental effort from us and a lackluster performance from them for us to beat them.
Thanks for that TD, you're a gun with all the TV stuff you upload for us Big call from Hutchy, I'm not sure I agree with him but at least I'm now convinced that we deserve to be a top 8 side again. A month ago I'd totally jumped off us for that. Mind you we're still not in the top 8 yet despite three wins in a row - a sign of how much those losses earlier in the season hurt us.
Moonwatcher - I'm sold by St. Kilda, as much as it pains me to admit it. I've always been of the opinion that they are pretenders but pretenders don't win 11 games in a row. Teams have so much trouble scoring against them, same as the Crows back in 06. It would take a monumental effort from us and a lackluster performance from them for us to beat them.
Voss made a big fuss about it and we know the AFL respects him so it's probably likely to go ahead.
Yet when the Crows inevitably get two or three players injured in one match and still go on to win nobody bats an eyelid. Instead they talk about how other teams lost the match. (Not talking about the Essendon match in particular here) Always seemed like an excuse to me. Work with what you've got.
I guess it's not on Tuesday night then
Big call from Hutchy, I'm not sure I agree with him but at least I'm now convinced that we deserve to be a top 8 side again. A month ago I'd totally jumped off us for that. Mind you we're still not in the top 8 yet despite three wins in a row - a sign of how much those losses earlier in the season hurt us.
Moonwatcher - I'm sold by St. Kilda, as much as it pains me to admit it. I've always been of the opinion that they are pretenders but pretenders don't win 11 games in a row. Teams have so much trouble scoring against them, same as the Crows back in 06. It would take a monumental effort from us and a lackluster performance from them for us to beat them.
Yet, with a goal to Tippett, or one he created from memory, we were less than a goal behind 10m into the last quarter. We owned that 3rd term but kept hitting the post or not taking chances, I'd have liked that game again.
Cheers Tex Danger. Grant Thomas did seem grumpy.
I guess i'm with aneale. Also the changes Neil has made over the last few weeks are the exact changes we needed to be competitive with St Kilda , WCE over the last 5 yrs. I'm filled with optimism.
I remember watching the Adelaide V Melb game and thinking i would rather see a loss than a win like this. I love footy agian and NC.
I remember watching the Adelaide V Melb game and thinking i would rather see a loss than a win like this. I love footy agian and NC.
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He gave a fan perspective. Should really have been wearing his beanie, or at least posting his thoughts on BigFooty.
When we win it is because of how well we played.
When we lose it is because of all the errors we made and Stupidhead Stinkypants Craig's stuff ups in the coaching box.
Sure, the other team played ok and I'm not taking anything away from them but...
If people remember we were only a final quarter's performance from knocking off St Kilda this year! I think when we play them again at Etihad stadium later this year we'll give them a closer shake. Especially considering they have been tiring a bit the last few weeks, have let teams get closer to them than they should. We'll see though The future is bright!
The future is bright!
I think we're as good as, if not better than, the Bulldogs. However, I'd put St Kilda well ahead of us.
Right now we are playing a very attractive, attacking brand of footy (when the ball is in our possession). However, it's high risk footy which is dependent upon our ability to hit our targets with precision.
St Kilda's defence is very good at applying pressure on the ball carrier. A lot of our ball carriers tend to make errors with their disposal when placed under this kind of pressure - Brad Symes, I'm looking at you (but not you alone). This is why their defence has been so miserly. It's also why we'll struggle to beat them.
Geelong are the only other team capable of applying this ammount of pressure - and hence the reason why they're the only other team I'd rate as being unbeatable (by the crows) in 2009.
Saying that we're as good as, or better than the Bulldogs, is a big call - particularly given the way they belted us not so long ago. The fact is that we were as good as them for 3/4 of the game. It was our skill errors which killed us in that 3rd quarter - not our defensive gameplan, but our offensive one. If we can get it right for 4 quarters - as we did against the Bombers - then we are more than capable of taking them to the cleaners.
Worth remembering that we've been inconsistent in every game this year though. There hasn't been one game to my memory where we've just dominated from the get-go and never looked back. There are going to be games where we are just "down" the whole match, you sense. To be premiership contenders you have to be up the whole time in the finals series because if you're not, some other club will be.
Worth noting that we've played 3 sides in a row with craphouse or undermanned defences.
Essendon were missing Fletcher (who comprehensively pantsed Tippett last year) and young Darcy Daniher. Their backline was full of kids like Hooker (who got a lesson from Kurt) and Pears (who beat Walker). Hawthorn don't have any key position backmen at the moment. They had to send Robbie Campbell back to play on Tippett, and Campbell Brown injured himself in the 2nd quarter. Carlton haven't had a backline in years, and Waite went down in the first quarter. Our forwards haven't had much competition over the last few weeks.
Brisbane's backs made us look pretty bloody ordinary at times. We had all the ball in that half, but midfield pressure, coupled with a decent defence, saw a half time lead of just 1.4. When our mids started losing around the clearances in the second half, we got smashed. None of our forwards kicked more than 2 goals that day.
Good signs from our forwards lately, yes, and there's a hell of a lot of potential in the Knights/Porps/Tippett/Walker/Dangerfield combination we've got going, but the real test is yet to come.
Essendon were missing Fletcher (who comprehensively pantsed Tippett last year) and young Darcy Daniher. Their backline was full of kids like Hooker (who got a lesson from Kurt) and Pears (who beat Walker). Hawthorn don't have any key position backmen at the moment. They had to send Robbie Campbell back to play on Tippett, and Campbell Brown injured himself in the 2nd quarter. Carlton haven't had a backline in years, and Waite went down in the first quarter. Our forwards haven't had much competition over the last few weeks.
Brisbane's backs made us look pretty bloody ordinary at times. We had all the ball in that half, but midfield pressure, coupled with a decent defence, saw a half time lead of just 1.4. When our mids started losing around the clearances in the second half, we got smashed. None of our forwards kicked more than 2 goals that day.
Good signs from our forwards lately, yes, and there's a hell of a lot of potential in the Knights/Porps/Tippett/Walker/Dangerfield combination we've got going, but the real test is yet to come.
A reasonable position Dandy - but the experience and confidence the guys will be developing as a cohesive unit is invaluable, and will stand them in good stead when it becomes time to play a St Kilda or Geelong.
As much as it's a negative, the inconsistency is also a massive positive - Tippett has a bad day, Walker kicks 5. Walker has a bad day, Tippett kicks 7. Porps has a quiet day, Knights kicks 5. Knights has a quiet day (only kicks 3), and Porps slots 4.
As much as it's a negative, the inconsistency is also a massive positive - Tippett has a bad day, Walker kicks 5. Walker has a bad day, Tippett kicks 7. Porps has a quiet day, Knights kicks 5. Knights has a quiet day (only kicks 3), and Porps slots 4.
Dandy and Elvis have very good points.
We've played stretched defences, but we now how multiple scorers who are ALL capable of 5+ on their day.
The Bird meeezy is back soon too!
We've played stretched defences, but we now how multiple scorers who are ALL capable of 5+ on their day.
The Bird meeezy is back soon too!
Spot on. There are some real challenges ahead for our Forwards.
Not sure I'm going with this train of thought:
It's all well and good to say we haven't come up against strong defences in the last 3 weeks, but really, who ARE the formidable defences in the AFL? Probably only Geelong and St Kilda. We're not there yet, and i wouldn't like our chances to really penetrate either the Cats or Saints, but we HAVE improved going forward.
It's all well and good to say we haven't come up against strong defences in the last 3 weeks, but really, who ARE the formidable defences in the AFL? Probably only Geelong and St Kilda. We're not there yet, and i wouldn't like our chances to really penetrate either the Cats or Saints, but we HAVE improved going forward.
The other thing to consider in terms of the recent success of our forward line has been the form of our midfield, and strength of the gameplan in the last 3 weeks. The balls moving into the forward line alot quicker, and regardless of how talented the backline is, getting enough fast moving, long balls in to one on one situations is impossible to defend to a huge degree.
Yep, very good points though I'm not liking the realism after seeing such great forward performances lately!
Truth is we are no longer a crap forward line
but we are not yet a forward line expected to beat good defences consistently as we have not proven that yet
That's why the return of the talented, proven and experienced Burton will be absolutely invaluable asap (given the first month will be a little rusty).
If we are fortunate enough to make finals, i expect Burton to be one of our most important players due to his forward line leadership and ability to beat the best. It will also free up others to go into the middle at just the right time leading into finals...
Now i am not saying we will win the premiership this year but think back to 97 and the impact of the young trio of McLeod, Goodwin and Johnson. All young blokes who filled positions on pockets/flanks/wings for much of the year and then to various degrees stepped up big time to do some amazing work thru the middle of the ground with some great clearances and foot skills to the leading forwards.
Fast forward 12 years and here is my Blighty for this years finals...
Burton releases Dangerfield from his forward role into the midfield where he wins numerous hard balls and clearances.
Stevens releases Otten into the midfield where he carves up with evasion, possession gathering and breaking of the lines, including a couple long goals.
Then come the big moment, Porplyzia (yes i know he is not that young but i can see him doing it) is moved into the middle after half time and has an absolute purple patch lacing out Taylor 'Darren Jarman' Walker multiple times. If we want a young-un to complete the dream trifecta then i suggest Mackay is moved into the middle.
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