First line is in relation to where we finish at the end of the season (ie. quality to beat good teams and finish with a decent ladder position)
Second line is in relation to finals performance. Carlton are a better team then North.
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First line is in relation to where we finish at the end of the season (ie. quality to beat good teams and finish with a decent ladder position)
Second line is in relation to finals performance. Carlton are a better team then North.
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They are a one game better team than North at the moment.
There is no certainty it will be that way at the end of the season.
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Not suggesting we wont make the finals but it wouldnt take much of a drop in form for the Hawks to create that second spot IMO
Hawks: Geelong (MCG), Brisbane (Aurora), St Kilda (ES), Port (AAMI), Sydney (SCG), Melbourne (MCG), Fremantle (Aurora), Collingwood (MCG)
Absolute nightmare run home with the top 4 and 2 tough away games to come.
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this is pathetic. Pull your head out of the clouds. North Melbourne is shit, and theyre losing worse than Adelaide.
They are no chance either. Sydney to finish 8th
One game + massive percentage better team then North.
Carlton have easily outperformed North over the entirety of the season which is highlighted by that percentage. Our biggest win was over St Kilda.
Of course there is no certainty of things staying this way but given what has transpired the past 14 rounds I would be extremely confident of things remaining as they have been
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After looking at the draw it seems that whoever wins out of North and Sydney this week will play finals.
That being said, nuisance teams like Melbourne, Adelaide and Richmond could continue to knock teams off around them on the way home and make the battle for eigth a real slog for those two teams(syd,north). Ditto if Brisbane get a few players back and get on a roll.
That being said, nuisance teams like Melbourne, Adelaide and Richmond could continue to knock teams off around them on the way home and make the battle for eigth a real slog for those two teams(syd,north). Ditto if Brisbane get a few players back and get on a roll.
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Ninth Melbourne have our usual spot sewn up.
Ninth Melbourne have our usual spot sewn up.
It is between the Roos and the Swans but like others have said, just making up the numbers on current form. Both teams have beaten everyone below them (until today) but struggled against the better teams. Along with Carlton the 8th team have no chance at getting past the second week.
On the Blues, when 100% they can match any side, but even at 95% they start to drop away more than the others. Probably need one extra inside midfielder and another KP player then they should be set.
As a Roo supporter, we need to have our best 22 playing close to their best. Anthony and Ziebell won't be there for sure while Petrie will struggle to get back up to scratch in time. That's enough to cause us pain. I have enormous faith in a number of our younger players but they are not ready yet.
On the Blues, when 100% they can match any side, but even at 95% they start to drop away more than the others. Probably need one extra inside midfielder and another KP player then they should be set.
As a Roo supporter, we need to have our best 22 playing close to their best. Anthony and Ziebell won't be there for sure while Petrie will struggle to get back up to scratch in time. That's enough to cause us pain. I have enormous faith in a number of our younger players but they are not ready yet.
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Petrie is back next week.
Will team up well with Hansen now at CHF, Petrie in the goal square.
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2 good sides, 4 second tier sides and then the rest.
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If people are willing to consider Adelaide, I do not see why Brisbane is out of the question. Some sides are vastly better with their barometer in the team (Brown), with Brisbane one of these. Many forget that 8 or so weeks ago, Carlton looked insipid losing to Essendon without Judd. With him back, they are a more confident and skilful side. The same could be said for Brown (when fit) and for Brisbane.
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You mean Carlton slightly ahead of North on points, but North to win if they face each other?
Yeah, I agree.
The problem for Brisbane is they play St Kilda, Hawthorn & Geelong in the next 3 weeks. Lose all of those & the best they can hope for is 10 wins for the season, which probably won't be enough to make the 8.
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Carlton should finish 8th.
Well I think last year was the best evidence of that.
Nevertheless, I think I understand the OP's point. If Sydney, North or Adelaide make the 8, each of them is a really good chance to beat any of the 3 teams who fill the places above them, but next to no chance of being competitive in the second week of the finals.
doubt that they deserve it now because of winning a couple games in a row, North deserve it more than them and so do the Swans..
7th at worst. Can't see either North or Sydney finished above us.
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Yes but North have looked absolutely embarrassing against the top 4 teams, haven't even been in the game, lost to St Kilda, Collingwood, Fremantle and Geelong by an average margin of 65 points.
That is why I put Kangaroos in a different category to Carlton. Because if Carlton finish 5th-8th and make it past the first week, they have some shot against one of the top 4 teams in a semi, whereas North have no hope at all.
North are not a top 8 team yet.
Not ready for it either.
Maybe with a full, fit list inc, Petrie, Anthony & Zeibel, we might sneak in.
But the teams above us are all further developed at the moment.
I'd rather make the eight when we're ready, no point playing finals and getting embarrassed as we did under Laidley. Brad Scott has got us playing the way we should.
With another couple of preseasons and better luck with injuries, North will be playing finals the way they should be played.
As for this year, we are not ready nor deserving of finals.
Not ready for it either.
Maybe with a full, fit list inc, Petrie, Anthony & Zeibel, we might sneak in.
But the teams above us are all further developed at the moment.
I'd rather make the eight when we're ready, no point playing finals and getting embarrassed as we did under Laidley. Brad Scott has got us playing the way we should.
With another couple of preseasons and better luck with injuries, North will be playing finals the way they should be played.
As for this year, we are not ready nor deserving of finals.
People are forgetting how good we are at the SCG... would not be surprised if we knock off Hawthorn or the Dogs there. We should make the eight but this weekend should be interesting. Man, a win today and a win next week would've put us 8 points + percentage outside the bottom 8. ****, it hurts.
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(RE:North > Syd > Adel)LOL, funny post this.
hmm if adelaide can keep winning and the swans lose 6 in a row like you lot in rounds 1-6, then it might be a good laugh yeah
dont see it happening.
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