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[JuniorB]

I see Jack Silvagni

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Jack Silvagni

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

has done an ACL.
I detest his club, but you wouldn't wish that on anybody.

 

[jimmy35]

Yes it’s pretty shit for a player. All the best in your recovery Jack.

 

[Lockyer24]

The club shouldn’t be posting on Australia Day. It should be in a neutral position.

 

[domus]

Jesus!
Will he never learn?
His career, no, his life, hangs in the balance.
If he continues on this path, he goes down the toilet.

Sigh. It's an allegation. When will people learn? Degoey was hung, drawn and quartered for things he never did by many of his own supporters. Now, he is an admired leader and one of the reasons we are the current champions of the AFL.

 

[jmac70]

Sigh. It's an allegation. When will people learn? Degoey was hung, drawn and quartered for things he never did by many of his own supporters. Now, he is an admired leader and one of the reasons we are the current champions of the AFL.

What the heck does De Goey have to do with the Thomas situation? Not remotely similar.

 

[JuniorB]

Sigh. It's an allegation. When will people learn? Degoey was hung, drawn and quartered for things he never did by many of his own supporters. Now, he is an admired leader and one of the reasons we are the current champions of the AFL.

There's a fair distance between Jordy's drunken escapades and Thomas' priors of domestic violence and the like.

North move to distance themselves from Tarryn Thomas until investigation is over

Tarryn Thomas has effectively been handed down his third club ban in a little more than 12 months.The troubled North Melbourne talent was told on Sunday following domestic violence claims against him ...

nit.com.au

 

[domus]

What the heck does De Goey have to do with the Thomas situation? Not remotely similar.

An allegation has been made. Allegations were made against Degoey and many were ready to lynch him based on allegations. Some are ready to do the same to Thomas. It's wrong.

Until charges are proven nobody should have their face and name published as though they are guilty.

 

[domus]

There's a fair distance between Jordy's drunken escapades and Thomas' priors of domestic violence and the like.

North move to distance themselves from Tarryn Thomas until investigation is over

Tarryn Thomas has effectively been handed down his third club ban in a little more than 12 months.The troubled North Melbourne talent was told on Sunday following domestic violence claims against him ...

nit.com.au

According to the media Degoey had prior offences too Some have short memories.

Degoey waa called out for alleged sexual assault in Bali. Even though his girlfriend laughed it off many were frothing at the mouth and wanted him out. Someone should pull up that thread.

 

[jmac70]

An allegation has been made. Allegations were made against Degoey and many were ready to lynch him based on allegations. Some are ready to do the same to Thomas. It's wrong.

Until charges are proven nobody should have their face and name published as though they are guilty.

Yes, but the allegations are totally different. Can’t you see that your comparison is poor?

 

[localfootylegend23]

The club shouldn’t be posting on Australia Day. It should be in a neutral position.

I dunno, they have indigenous staff and players directly impacted by the issue, i've got no issue with the club stating what they believe in, assuming they have spoken to everyone about it

 

[NMBB]

According to the media Degoey had prior offences too Some have short memories.

Degoey waa called out for alleged sexual assault in Bali. Even though his girlfriend laughed it off many were frothing at the mouth and wanted him out. Someone should pull up that thread.

no thanks

 

[NMBB]

The club shouldn’t be posting on Australia Day. It should be in a neutral position.

it's a fairly innocuous statement

 

[sideswipe]

Yes, but the allegations are totally different. Can’t you see that your comparison is poor?

What’s poor is anyone coming to any opinion on Thomas’ current investigation. Right now the only thing being reported is that there has been an online complaint about “inappropriate behaviour”.

Wait.


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[domus]

Yes, but the allegations are totally different. Can’t you see that your comparison is poor?

Why should any allegation be treated as proof of guilt? It's outrageous. Can you imagine how you would feel if someone with an agenda accused you of something and your face and name was splashed all over the media platforms and you had no way of defending yourself as your accuser can remain anonymous.

Even when the accuser is known it is wrong. What is wrong with waiting for the court proceedings to play out? Why are we so anxious to pile on? The whole system is a disgrace.

 

[jmac70]

What’s poor is anyone coming to any opinion on Thomas’ current investigation. Right now the only thing being reported is that there has been an online complaint about “inappropriate behaviour”.

Wait.


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I don’t recall expressing an opinion in regards to his guilt , only that his situation is not comparable to De Goey.

 

[jmac70]

Why should any allegation be treated as proof of guilt? It's outrageous. Can you imagine how you would feel if someone with an agenda accused you of something and your face and name was splashed all over the media platforms and you had no way of defending yourself as your accuser can remain anonymous.

Even when the accuser is known it is wrong. What is wrong with waiting for the court proceedings to play out? Why are we so anxious to pile on? The whole system is a disgrace.

It’s also disgraceful how many women suffer domestic violence.

 

[PieBeast]

There's a fair distance between Jordy's drunken escapades and Thomas' priors of domestic violence and the like.

North move to distance themselves from Tarryn Thomas until investigation is over

Tarryn Thomas has effectively been handed down his third club ban in a little more than 12 months.The troubled North Melbourne talent was told on Sunday following domestic violence claims against him ...

nit.com.au

He doesn't have any priors of domestic violence, stop talking utter shit.

 

[sideswipe]

I don’t recall expressing an opinion in regards to his guilt , only that his situation is not comparable to De Goey.

I took the comparison as both JDG and TT being condemned before the matter had been finalised- which is fair enough.

Pretty sure you were an early caller on JDG?


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[jmac70]

I took the comparison as both JDG and TT being condemned before the matter had been finalised- which is fair enough.

Pretty sure you were an early caller on JDG?


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Yes, I was. Happy to admit I got that wrong, no need to discredit me.

In relation to the post by Domus, I just didn’t see the point of the comparison, enough just to point out he has not been found guilty of anything.

 

[Apex36]

Sigh. It's an allegation. When will people learn? Degoey was hung, drawn and quartered for things he never did by many of his own supporters. Now, he is an admired leader and one of the reasons we are the current champions of the AFL.

Whilst I agree in principle, Thomas’ priors are genuine and make Jordy look like a choir boy.
His career does hang in the balance as it stands.
It is best to wait before condemning though.

 

[domus]

Whilst I agree in principle, Thomas’ priors are genuine and make Jordy look like a choir boy.
His career does hang in the balance as it stands.
It is best to wait before condemning though.

Always.

 

[jmac70]

Always.

Do you think clubs should have the right to stand players down who have been accused or charged with violence against women?

 

[sideswipe]

Do you think clubs should have the right to stand players down who have been accused or charged with violence against women?

You want to stand down someone on the strength of an online complaint?

In answer to your question, no. Not aware of a sporting code in the world that could do that(ahem, Aus open semi finalist)?

Why don’t you try to set out a policy/rule by which that could be done? Hint: there should be an objective standard, like the NRL stand down rule. Which would not operate when an allegation has been made. You need a police charge.


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[Markfs]

Do you think clubs should have the right to stand players down who have been accused or charged with violence against women?

as a primary school teacher, you would be stood down and I think that's appropriate. You have the duty of care of children. I'm not so convinced that footballers should be stood down before charges have been proved. The Zverev example made me more uncomfortable about how people in the media were trying to inflame the situation. It seems to me that the main argument for stopping zverev from playing or being on the players committee, was that his presence was going to allow the media to inflame the situation. I dont see that as a reason.

 

[jmac70]

You want to stand down someone on the strength of an online complaint?

In answer to your question, no. Not aware of a sporting code in the world that could do that(ahem, Aus open semi finalist)?

Why don’t you try to set out a policy/rule by which that could be done? Hint: there should be an objective standard, like the NRL stand down rule. Which would not operate when an allegation has been made. You need a police charge.


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I don’t think Thomas should be stood down at this stage. Ideally the matter should be dealt with confidentiality by the AFL, although it seems they have botched the inquiry. Either they have credible evidence or not.

In general though, I think clubs reserve the right to stand down players given the situation. For example, a player charged with domestic violence should be stood down pending the outcome of the charge. Not given a limp two match suspension, like in the NRL.