List Mgmt. Our Trade/FA, Suburban & Country Town Thread

[Mortimore 39ers]

I think you’re probably right tbh. I’d wager that if anyone had been willing to take Kennedy and Owies off their hands they might have had the room, but with the lack of interest there’s probably just not enough room in their cap to add Houston right now.

I'm not as convinced cap space is a major issue for them. There's ways of creating cap space.

The main reason they couldn't offload Owies was the price he put on his head.

If Carlton were motivated enough they could re-shop Owies with the caveat of part-paying his salary for a period of time which would still free up cap space for them.

I don't trust that vile, iniquitous horde of sub-human ferals and feel they will push hard again for Houston.

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[Vinnie Vegas]

The main reason they couldn't offload Owies was the price he put on his head.

This has already been thoroughly debunked as being absolute horse-shit, fabricated for clicks by muckrakers in the media.

Nobody wants Owies because he's not particularly good.

He is also not contributing to any salary cap issues for them because he's out of contract.

 

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says the soaring value of a first-round pick held by Gold Coast is making it “complicated and messy” for the Magpies to bring across Dan Houston

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Not anymore

 

[Hardas]

This has already been thoroughly debunked as being absolute horse-shit, fabricated for clicks by muckrakers in the media.

Nobody wants Owies because he's not particularly good.

He is also not contributing to any salary cap issues for them because he's out of contract.

Keeping him & Kennedy at arm's length was them holding cap space for a possible run at Houston, yeah?

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

So you're willing to give pick 6 and ?? for Rioli but Noble isnt worth pick 23. Cameron will blink first.

Yeah it makes little sense

Regardless of Hardwick's bias for Rioli, Rioli and Noble are the same age, statistically nigh on idential.

Rioli is obviously a classier/more skilful player, which is why the gap between 6 and 23 is about right

If Rioli is worth 6 in this specific trade scenario (he's definitely not worth 6 in general), then Noble is 100% worth 23

 

[Hardas]

Collingwood list boss Justin Leppitsch says the soaring value of a first-round pick held by Gold Coast is making it “complicated and messy” for the Magpies to bring across Dan Houston.
Leppitsch said a deal with Port Adelaide and the Suns involving Houston, Jack Lukosius and Magpies defender John Noble was up to its 30th variation, as the Power demanded a higher price than the Pies were currently willing to pay.

In his first off-season as list manager, Leppitsch said the Magpies had to strike a “fine balance” between pursuing Houston and prioritising “the future of the footy club”.
Complicating matters further is that the dual All-Australian halfback is yet to nominate a preferred destination, with Carlton and North Melbourne remaining interested.

“We’re hoping to get it done, but it’s not going to be easy. That’s the difficult part, getting everyone happy on the deal. We’ve got all these players involved, who are all contracted, and can stay at their own homes, so I guess everyone is holding the card where they can keep that particular player,” Leppitsch told AFL Trade Radio on Friday.

“I’m not sure … we’re a little bit different, because Dan hasn’t nominated a club, so it’s not like he’s definitely coming to us, whereas John (Noble) has got a destination he wants to go, and Jack Lukosius knows where he wants to go.
“It is getting complicated, and messy at stages, so there is a lot to work through.”

Leppitsch said the Suns’ no. 13 pick, which Port Adelaide wants as part of a trade for Houston, initially looked like an easy get as part of a trade for Noble, but now has multiple suitors.

“At the start, pick 13 was just going to be an easy part of the deal for Nobes, along with other things of course,” he said.

“But now, given the fact it comes a number of other clubs wanting it, Gold Coast probably realises the value it actually has, it unlocks probably more value than what it actually is. Whoever gets a hold of it can do a lot of things with it. Hence why it’s more than just that pick.”


The Power also reportedly want the Suns’ no. 23 pick as part of a Houston deal even if it includes Collingwood forward Joe Richards, which Leppitsch suggested the Pies were not willing to part with if they secured that pick in the Noble deal.
He said they were mindful of being armed with the picks needed to secure father-son prospect Tom McGuane in 2025, which would be done under the league’s stricter rules coming in next season.

“We’d like to (keep a high draft pick), and that’s probably where the arm wrestle comes in,” Leppitsch said.

“Give up all your draft hand for one player, or go a different tact? That’s where it’s going to come down to for us.

“It’s a very fine balance. We’re respecting that, and we know the value of that, but the future of the footy club is most important.”

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/dan-houston-future-remains-uncertain-as-collingwood-concedes-trade-talks-have-become-messy/news-story/9744e82b9b034d4943afe86f2bedd906

Hoping that Houston changes tack & nominates us.

 

[Jen2310]

Sounds like we are prepared to walk away, because we aren't prepared to sell the farm for one player over the future of the club

 

[Fat Jesus]

Sounds like we are prepared to walk away, because we aren't prepared to sell the farm for one player over the future of the club

Nah, Houston is landing soon.

 

[Hardas]

Sounds like we are prepared to walk away, because we aren't prepared to sell the farm for one player over the future of the club

Welcome to the post-Wrighty era...

 

[gouki88]

Sounds like we are prepared to walk away, because we aren't prepared to sell the farm for one player over the future of the club

And just how exactly would we be selling out the future of the club?

 

[3rdMan]

Blues traded F1 + F2 for 14, so the value of 13 couldn't be that high. Doubt it prevents a deal being done.

 

[Apex36]

After all this l bet Houston stays at Port

Jesus Christ, enough with the doom and gloom spam.

 

[Antz]

Sounds like we are prepared to walk away, because we aren't prepared to sell the farm for one player over the future of the club

The one player that can win us the silverware next year?


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[Go Woods]

Apparently, the sun's not happy with a deal of noble plus our future first for 13 and 23. However, things may change.

Well, not sure how we get this done now.
We may need to throw in this year's 2nd pick 33 I believe, as the clincher..

 

[Fat Jesus]

Jesus Christ, enough with the doom and gloom spam.

Right on. FJ not happy

 

[Visions]

Sounds like we are prepared to walk away, because we aren't prepared to sell the farm for one player over the future of the club

A pick like 23 wouldn't be selling the farm in my opinion, and doesn't Fly want established players now instead of draft picks that could be hit or miss?

 

[Gymnorhina tibic]

Sounds like we are prepared to walk away, because we aren't prepared to sell the farm for one player over the future of the club

I don't get how holding a pick that we didn't have in the first place is selling the future of the club. Gain Houston, lose Noble, Richards, F1 is a good outcome.

 

[Go Woods]

Sounds like we are prepared to walk away, because we aren't prepared to sell the farm for one player over the future of the club

Fair enough.

 

[sr36]

I odn't understand how Gold Coast don't see Noble as worth pick 23

If Rioli is worth pick 6, then Noble is 100% worth 23

It's that our future first isn't worth 13.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

That's all posturing

In the end, our F1 is easily worth their Pick 13. Gold Coast wants more in next year's draft. They want our F1 because it makes sense for them

It's coming down to what they and we think Noble is worth.

My guess is we're waiting on the Rioli situation

 

[gouki88]

Going outright first in all time flags and =2nd in AFL era flags is a more important future state than having a bunch of middling picks.

 

[Jen2310]

I don't get how holding a pick that we didn't have in the first place is selling the future of the club. Gain Houston, lose Noble, Richards, F1 is a good outcome.

Just going by what Leppa said.
We want to get into the first round of this draft

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Keeping him & Kennedy at arm's length was them holding cap space for a possible run at Houston, yeah?

You can't put them in the same category because Kennedy is contracted and Owies isn't. Owies they could just not re-sign, to save the space, but Kennedy they would have to actually move. Lewis Young is the other one they've been trying to move, as he's contracted.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Jesus Christ, enough with the doom and gloom spam.

It's not doom and gloom, it's the realistic possibility. If we decide it's cost to trade is too much, l doubt Houston will go to North, he will opt to stay at Port. He has always said he would be happy to stay there if a trade didn't eventuate...

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

It's that our future first isn't worth 13.

How is it not?

Even if we won the flag it's Pick 18 as a starting point in a draft they want more high picks in