List Mgmt. Our Trade/FA, Suburban & Country Town Thread

[GreekLunatic]

In what world Is Lukosious worth a million a year

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Yes well it is either Beau, Hill or IQ, one of those will be required unless another club will give us a package of picks for a first rounder this year. Depends how serious Hill is about moving, I would say that fire has burnt out and he is happy here.

But no way is Allan or JDG part of any trade, one is a killer on the big stage, and Allan is part of our future. Noble moving is actually a bonus, we can get something decent in return, if not CP trade then I would be happy with Davies and Peatling.

But if I was to guess, we are all in for CP.

Why is it down to those three? I’d much rather lose Schultz or Lipinski over Beau. I wouldn’t say there’s a marked differential in their market values?

 

[Roverjg]

So apparently we were able to take a 1m salary dump to get a player cheap at trade...

But we have no cap room

OMG. Ralph and Barrett earlier this week stated the cap was tight. Didn't Fly say the same thing this week? Now Ralph is saying we do have room.

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[Tarkyn_24]

In what world Is Lukosious worth a million a year

The same place potential means more than runs on the board, and an unknown quality worth more than a known quality.

Agree on performance he’s nowhere near it.

 

[MooreDaicos]

barass too.
Which will allow them to play Sicily up forward.

There's a positive to every negative, they are going to disrupt their magic that is their now. Who's going to be disgruntled in their backline? Who are their mates? I hope it's Ginni, we know what he can do
Sorry Jen if you still like him. I did too at one stage.

 

[thommo_legend]

Why is it down to those three? I’d much rather lose Schultz or Lipinski over Beau. I wouldn’t say there’s a marked differential in their market values?

We aren't trading Schultz and Lipinksi is worth a packet of chips.

 

[No SPIN]

Battle and Barrass and their side is complete for a serious shot at the flag in 2025. If they don't win it this year

Barass is physically shot - his back is stuffed.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

We aren't trading Schultz and Lipinksi is worth a packet of chips.

If the choice is between Schultz and Beau there is not a world where Lachie is the one I retain.

That’s all that comes into it for mine. Sunk cost from prior trade periods should not come into it. Both are required at Collingwood with contracts ahead of them. How they came to land them should be completely inconsequential to decision making going forward.

 

[sr36]

Battle and Barrass and their side is complete for a serious shot at the flag in 2025. If they don't win it this year

There style will start to get targetted - so it will depend on whether it stands up.

But yes - strong pieces that will turn a current weakness into a significant strength.

 

[nahnah]

In my eyes Bobby is a Collingwood great for his performance in the GF

 

[Apex36]

Yes well it is either Beau, Hill or IQ, one of those will be required unless another club will give us a package of picks for a first rounder this year. Depends how serious Hill is about moving, I would say that fire has burnt out and he is happy here.

But no way is Allan or JDG part of any trade, one is a killer on the big stage, and Allan is part of our future. Noble moving is actually a bonus, we can get something decent in return, if not CP trade then I would be happy with Davies and Peatling.

But if I was to guess, we are all in for CP.

You listed 3 best 22 players under 25 that are expendable but a 2 gamer is off limits because he’s part of our future?

Bizarre take.

 

[lones37]

You listed 3 best 22 players under 25 that are expendable but a 2 gamer is off limits because he’s part of our future?

Bizarre take.

Allan will be a superstar and I have some mail on him, has overcome a lot of injury and next year will make his move. To get a trade done will require us to give up some value.

 

[Rusty Beam]

That game completely changes our thinking IMO.
2 weeks ago....he was expendable and i'd have been happy to include him.

All of a sudden next year is about getting games into him.
Hobbs / Davies etc are not required as they will be competing for the same spot with no standout attributes (fin anyone?!).

Which then changes our trade / draft thinking.....the internal domino effect of that performance would be quite pronounced i would think.

I agree to a certain extent. Still room for another youngster in the rotation in addition to Allan IMO.

Pendles will need to spend more time outside the centre square next year.

 

[Scodog10]

The Lions kept their first rounder for 2022 in 2021, not future trading it. They were then able to trade it for Dunkley while using later picks to acquire both Ashcroft and Fletcher.

It’s one of the more niche nah nah nah nah nah I’m right your wrong ones going considering it has to be FS, but Fremantle and GWS in 2019 both took selections before a bid on players aligned to them in the top 10. Collingwood in 2020 had two players drafted in the 1st Rd ahead of a player that received a bid in the 1st Rd. GWS again in 2022 drafted a player ahead of a 1st Rd bid. It’s not unheard of for clubs to keep 1st Rd picks with players projected to be bid later in the 1st Rd. The reason I’d say it hasn’t happened as Carl has mapped out is that the FS’ have either been guns (Naicos, Darcy, Ashcroft x2) which makes it bloody tough to get a pick ahead of them or lower 1st Rd talents. Essentially though we don’t have enough data to suggest a trend.

 

[gerryg400]

That game completely changes our thinking IMO.
2 weeks ago....he was expendable and i'd have been happy to include him.

All of a sudden next year is about getting games into him.
Hobbs / Davies etc are not required as they will be competing for the same spot with no standout attributes (fin anyone?!).

Which then changes our trade / draft thinking.....the internal domino effect of that performance would be quite pronounced i would think.

That game was as soft a game of footy as you will ever see.

 

[Scodog10]

You've got to get his permission to be put on the rookie list when contracted.

You definitely do not need a players permission to delist them.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

No surprise we aren't willing to take on Lukosius without something making it our worthwhile. Not really a player that fits our needs. He's a utility, nothing key position about him. Probably a 3rd tall forward and not a key back.
Good sign though we were looking to take on his salary. What's all the media talk about how tight our salary cap is??

 

[Bramax]

Im appalled at the lack of sensitive nature to Petraccas ordeal with the injury. Traumatic to him is traumatic to him , doesnt mean he should be told to suck it up. Yet everyone fawns over Oliver a known drug addict and treat him with care and protect him. Meanwhile Petraccas called a sook, suck it up princess and overeacting.

Its become pretty immature as a whole from Melbourne and its lackeys and some of the media folk. What do you expect from Melbourne really though

Yeah I didn’t like hearing that either.

 

[Jen2310]

You definitely do not need a players permission to delist them.

unless they plan to pay them out

 

[FromTheBoundaryLine]

Not sure we are even interested in Lukosious but I think his up and down form probably has a bit to do with Gold Coast’s flaky up and down form so wouldn’t discount him purely on that basis.

 

[Bramax]

Trac wants big crowds.

Yep. Crowds of 19,000 at the G won’t cut it.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Could Petracca not play at all next year. Take 12 months off to get himself right, physically and mentally?

 

[Scodog10]

unless they plan to pay them out

The original comment was to move them to the rookie list and that process is to first delist them and second redraft them in the rookie draft. None of that requires the permission of Macrae or Johnson nor does paying them out which is another option which I don’t think will come to pass unfortunately.

 

[Bramax]

I've heard a lot of negative stuff about Goodwin, from many different people. Mind you, I doubt any of them have any inside knowledge whatsoever. There is one common them amongst them all though. The current climate also seems to reflect it

I bet Petracca has some juicy inside knowledge of Goodwin though.

 

[TradeDraft]

It's looking unlikely for Reef and Kreuger to at least stay on senior list with the number crunch

Mistake IF Reef Leaves