List Mgmt. Our Trade/FA, Suburban & Country Town Thread

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Rioli isn’t worth 6 (probably more like 15), we are getting reamed on that deal regardless. We should be able to limit it to just 6 but obviously that’s still too much.

Noble is worth a 29-35 pick, he’d be coming off our bench. And frankly we know we have Rioli coming with that overpay, so if Noble falls through so be it, we’ve just recruited a player in the same position. Especially since we can now get Melbourne’s F1 + 28 for 13.
Clubs don't let these deals fall through, if you get a player to request a trade to you and don't follow it through. Managers and other players get spooked and rarely look at you.

GC + Coll will get it done.
 

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Clubs dont go out and recruit contracted players from other clubs because they are "nice to have" or to provide depth off the bench. Noble has been targeted by the Suns to be a starting HBF
Exactly. They have been in his ear obviously, so stop being campaigners and get the trade done.
 
GC need experienced players or another failed dimma campaign (an expensive one at that ) next year will see the list manager sacked, cause dimma sure as hell won't be.
 
The offers as per Morris’ reporting for 13 are basically useless to the suns outside of ours.

19 and 22 would be swallowed up this year so doesn’t help them
F1 dogs isn’t better alone than ours
Melbournes f1 plus a second rounder isn’t bad but we have the player they are chasing

I think we’re well placed
Agree, they want Noble for the now, not more speculative draft picks.
 
We did overpay Dave but I reckon if we fail to land Houston this year because we want to draft a tad earlier then it would be all Leppa’s fault.

Going against what Fly Said
 

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But on the bright side you can gawk over a couple of 17/18 year olds who may or may not turn into decent players by the time half our side has retired.
That's precisely why I hardly bother watching our VFL side 🥺

Was much more appealing thinking about Perryman & Houston in, Noble & Richards out.

Pick up a tall kid in the draft.

Simple. Win/win.
 
Clubs don't let these deals fall through, if you get a player to request a trade to you and don't follow it through. Managers and other players get spooked and rarely look at you.

GC + Coll will get it done.
Daniher requested a trade to Sydney in 2019 and it fell through, it didn’t impact Sydney’s standing. It happens all the time.

I understand you want Houston and fair enough he is a gun, but sorta like how if Richmond turn down 6 that’s fully on them, if you turned down 23 for Noble it’s not like we are lowballing.

It’s not massive overs like 6 is but it’s still fair, and if it doesn’t work out so be it.

Also sorry for this many intrusions, it is fun for the banter 😂 I’ll GTFO for now
 
Let's just avoid pick 13 , and use F1 to get picks and manoeuver around to get a better draft hand. There are creative solutions to get a very good hand if Collingwood can just open their eyes and not get sucked into pick 13 sweepstakes.
Richmond will have a fistful of 1st rounders.
Maybe we can get a couple of those for our F1.
 
I understand you want Houston and fair enough he is a gun, but sorta like how if Richmond turn down 6 that’s fully on them, if you turned down 23 for Noble it’s not like we are lowballing.
23 is low. If the Suns are the cause of the multi club deal falling through then the good will to work with them is no longer there. You'll need to pay a good price for Noble and 23 is not it.
 
What doesn’t really make sense to me is that Gold Coast had a very similar offer from Carlton for Pick 13, which they ended up offering to the hawks and they accepted.

Why would Melbournes future first plus pick 28 be more enticing to the Suns after they already rejected Carlton’s similar offer?

Not fully buying into that rumour, at the end of the day our offer is the only offer that has an established player going their way. Someone who instantly fits into Dimma’s system, I think our offer is still the best there but will clearly need some fine tweaking to make every party happy.
 
I don't understand why this hasn't been considered as part of our negotiating strategy but I have consulted AI to get a handle on the whole situation:

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AFL. Collingwood football club are in negotiations with multiple clubs for the services of Dan Houston in 2025. How do you think this will play out?

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Collingwood's pursuit of Dan Houston suggests they're looking to strengthen their squad for the upcoming seasons. Given Houston's talent and versatility, interest from multiple clubs could drive up his market value.

If Collingwood can present a compelling case—such as a competitive playing environment or a strong chance at finals success—they might have the edge in negotiations. However, if other clubs can offer more playing time or better contracts, it could complicate things.

Ultimately, it will come down to how much both Collingwood and Houston want the move, as well as how negotiations unfold with the other clubs involved. It could lead to an exciting bidding war or a swift resolution if Houston has a strong preference. What are your thoughts on his potential impact at Collingwood?

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My thoughts are infinitely complex, probably not something Artificial Intelligence could get it's head around. On a separate note, could you just tell us (Collingwood Football Club) how we get this done?

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To successfully secure Dan Houston, Collingwood should focus on a few key strategies:

Clear Vision: Communicate a strong vision for Houston’s role within the team. Highlight how he fits into their game plan and the potential for growth.

Competitive Offer: Make a compelling financial offer that reflects his value, possibly including performance bonuses to sweeten the deal.

Engagement: Build a relationship with Houston and his management. Understanding his priorities—whether they’re financial, playing time, or team culture—can help tailor the offer.

Leverage Connections: Use existing relationships within the league to gauge interest and potential willingness from Houston’s current club to negotiate.

Timing: Be strategic about when to approach negotiations. Getting in early could give Collingwood a leg up before other clubs make their moves.

Support System: Emphasize the support network at the club, including coaching staff, teammates, and the club’s culture, to make the move more attractive.

If they can execute on these fronts, they’ll increase their chances of landing him. How do you feel about the club’s overall strategy in the current player market?

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Rioli isn’t worth 6 (probably more like 15), we are getting reamed on that deal regardless. We should be able to limit it to just 6 but obviously that’s still too much.

Noble is worth a 29-35 pick, he’d be coming off our bench. And frankly we know we have Rioli coming with that overpay, so if Noble falls through so be it, we’ve just recruited a player in the same position. Especially since we can now get Melbourne’s F1 + 28 for 13.
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