Ovens & Murray discussion 2023

[Fatsideswitch]

Isn't there a cluster of clubs around corowa, so really not a 1 club town

Corowa is a worry with this sort of mindset i agree, perhaps 1 major sponsor could share the love to each club in seperate leagues. But also for arguments sake, 5 small businesses may be able to match the donation from 1 large business. Im not in the know enough to understand it all but its an idea

 

[Peta Deutschland]

So what rovers don't automatically get the 4 points or whoever the other side is round 2?

No they don’t, have to win the 4 points. Would be unfair on the rest of the comp of Rovers and Wodonga both got 4 points for just turning up despite the result.


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[TennisFan76]

Let’s not forget, money is what got country football in to this predicament. Open slather will kill so many smaller clubs, and you’ll have your odd club go all out for 4 years then crumble. There’s no surprise that every single league in the district was at its peak in the 90s. Yeah there were dollars floating around but not enough to ruin the game. Clubs like the Rovers were happy to have 4-5 big names get some coin and the rest were happy to play for a beer after the game.

 

[Peta Deutschland]

Let’s not forget, money is what got country football in to this predicament. Open slather will kill so many smaller clubs, and you’ll have your odd club go all out for 4 years then crumble. There’s no surprise that every single league in the district was at its peak in the 90s. Yeah there were dollars floating around but not enough to ruin the game. Clubs like the Rovers were happy to have 4-5 big names get some coin and the rest were happy to play for a beer after the game.

Dare I say it, but I agree. Despite there being a salary cap, the bigger stronger clubs will find ways around this though. Yep, I know Wang have been caught with a breach, but I don’t think it’s a breach that anyone would’ve thought is happening or is happening around the league. I would’ve thought it would be linked with a sponsor or something, like you said about PRIMETRAIN getting put up for accommodation at The Gateway, I’m sure he paid his bill, so no need to fire up.
The points system needs to be squeezed a bit more. Wang and Yarra, the two best sides in the comp last year played the GF with 37 points. Bringing it down to 38 points as standard should be workable for most clubs.
Clubs that are battling with recruiting ie, Myrt, Corowa (give the Roos 50 next year) Raiders can receive additional points.
Much like your Rovers have had the last few years to get them off the bottom. Then it’s up to those struggling clubs to be smart with their recruiting to find players that stick around and play 100+ games. If not, they will fall down the ladder again.


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[Blues1977]

Practice match results? Players in good form?

Maggies defeated Seymour FC by 2-3 goals Saturday afternoon. Had about 8 starters out each, lots of youth for both clubs.

 

[Fruit]

So what rovers don't automatically get the 4 points or whoever the other side is round 2?

No. Only if they win.

 

[Fruit]

Has anyone from Wang made a statement yet?

 

[Rip vanwinkel]

Mate get over it. There has been 3 pages now of mostly you banging on about it.

Yes they got caught red handed, yes they only got a tap on the wrist. But every other team in the top 5 are over yearly, so no point carrying on.

Lets get back to talking about the up coming season

Didn’t Yarra get audited thru the season and came up squeaky clean?

 

[Fatsideswitch]

Let’s not forget, money is what got country football in to this predicament. Open slather will kill so many smaller clubs, and you’ll have your odd club go all out for 4 years then crumble. There’s no surprise that every single league in the district was at its peak in the 90s. Yeah there were dollars floating around but not enough to ruin the game. Clubs like the Rovers were happy to have 4-5 big names get some coin and the rest were happy to play for a beer after the game.

4 years is a pretty good analysis. Are you talking from experience

 

[harsh. but fair]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Wang Rovers hit the skids financially in the mid-1990s? at the end of an era when it won four flags. Couldn’t afford to pay players, had bob rose run around in an all stars fundraiser game for memory. But to their credit they were able to hold onto Rob Walker a few other guns to remain competitive before rising again to play off in a grand final in early 2000s.

 

[Rumourmill18]

I’m always open to some constructive criticism. maybe a few too many vodka sodas before school tomorrow. So next question, point system stays, salary cap stays even if it’s hard to track, how do we reinvigorate interest into country footy without money and where does it start?
A running torpedo punt into the ass of the AFL could be a good start?

 

[Post padding]

I’m always open to some constructive criticism. maybe a few too many vodka sodas before school tomorrow. So next question, point system stays, salary cap stays even if it’s hard to track, how do we reinvigorate interest into country footy without money and where does it start?
A running torpedo punt into the ass of the AFL could be a good start?

Sorry. But Footy ain’t going back to the “good ole days “.

Footy needs to find what it looks like in the future and plan for the best outcome of that.

Other sports have and keep evolving at different levels.

One thing that is quite unique to Australia is actually the high number of adults that actually play sport.

We need to keep that. In what ever form that is

 

[Trent the flight Steward]

I’m always open to some constructive criticism. maybe a few too many vodka sodas before school tomorrow. So next question, point system stays, salary cap stays even if it’s hard to track, how do we reinvigorate interest into country footy without money and where does it start?
A running torpedo punt into the ass of the AFL could be a good start?

I think that each club should be allowed to have a marquee player that's outside the cap and points. You still as the second best comp in country Vic want to attract excellent footballers.

It should be 100k for metro clubs and go up for major leagues further from Melbourne, so probably Sunraysia would have the highest at 130k, ovens and Murray & Hampden 125, 120 Bendigo, Ballarat and Gippsland. I'd have players switching clubs as the highest points, especially if it's from bottom to top club.
Metro clubs should have the least points and towns with unis the next lowest. metro should be 30 points and uni towns 34 or 35 for the successful clubs.

Instead of having AFL regional managers, up the pay for an ex AFL player to run school clinics, take weaker club trainings and drum up participation

 

[Peta Deutschland]

I think that each club should be allowed to have a marquee player that's outside the cap and points. You still as the second best comp in country Vic want to attract excellent footballers.

It should be 100k for metro clubs and go up for major leagues further from Melbourne, so probably Sunraysia would have the highest at 130k, ovens and Murray & Hampden 125, 120 Bendigo, Ballarat and Gippsland. I'd have players switching clubs as the highest points, especially if it's from bottom to top club.
Metro clubs should have the least points and towns with unis the next lowest. metro should be 30 points and uni towns 34 or 35 for the successful clubs.

Instead of having AFL regional managers, up the pay for an ex AFL player to run school clinics, take weaker club trainings and drum up participation

A lot of good points. Lower points for Metro clubs that don’t have any juniors would make just about impossible to function though.


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[MortlockWatcher]

Instead of having AFL regional managers, up the pay for an ex AFL player to run school clinics, take weaker club trainings and drum up participation

The remaining five regional hubs will be gone by the end of the season.

Wimmera Mallee was told last week.
Barwon is about to receive the news.
The other three are set to receive notification of the axe sometime soon.

All Victorian grassroots football will be overseen from the ivory tower at the Docklands - hopefully common sense will see the AFL actually go back to the VCFL days where country people ran country football ... but don't hold your breath on that.

 

[Local Footy Nerd]

The remaining five regional hubs will be gone by the end of the season.

Wimmera Mallee was told last week.
Barwon is about to receive the news.
The other three are set to receive notification of the axe sometime soon.

All Victorian grassroots football will be overseen from the ivory tower at the Docklands - hopefully common sense will see the AFL actually go back to the VCFL days where country people ran country football ... but don't hold your breath on that.

Where have you got this information from? Would be a huge change across Victoria but just in this area alone if AFLNEB was gone.

What would it look like without them running the show? Who would make all the decisions ?

 

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Where have you got this information from? Would be a huge change across Victoria but just in this area alone if AFLNEB was gone.

What would it look like without them running the show? Who would make all the decisions ?

AFL house

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

I’m always open to some constructive criticism. maybe a few too many vodka sodas before school tomorrow. So next question, point system stays, salary cap stays even if it’s hard to track, how do we reinvigorate interest into country footy without money and where does it start?
A running torpedo punt into the ass of the AFL could be a good start?

Have the best locals playing locally not in some state wide comp where 1-2% are drafted .

 

[TennisFan76]

Could Daine Porter break Micky Angelo Caruso’s record? Porter turns 37 this year and still looks more than comfortable at the level, Stabber was 42 in his last season, never thought anyone would even get close to that age again. You might say I’m biased, but Mick had the best set of quads I’d ever seen, never missed leg day don’t you worry about that.

 

[MortlockWatcher]

Where have you got this information from? Would be a huge change across Victoria but just in this area alone if AFLNEB was gone.

What would it look like without them running the show? Who would make all the decisions ?

They closed a number of hubs last year, including Gippsland, and ran them from AFL House. Central Murray region was merged into Central Victoria last year.

The AFL is looking to cut the costs of administration and general operations at grassroots level. Their belief is that country football can be fully managed from the Docklands.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

They closed a number of hubs last year, including Gippsland, and ran them from AFL House. Central Murray region was merged into Central Victoria last year.

The AFL is looking to cut the costs of administration and general operations at grassroots level. Their belief is that country football can be fully managed from the Docklands.

Disappointing if true as the Jackson report which was the impetus for the closing of the VCFL’s doors , was quite strong on the introduction of commissions so that local decisions could be made by local people .
Since the introduction of affiliation agreements in 2018 there has seemingly continued to be growing trend of decisions being made by head office , or individuals within head office , without following any pre determined and outlined process or any consultation.

 

[MortlockWatcher]

A quote I heard late last year was "the Jackson Report is dead" soon after AFL Gippsland moved its operations to the outer wing at the Docklands.

 

[BigDog12]

Milawa is stinging Geoff again!

 

[BigDog12]

Stuff you you wanna heardecent straight shooting footy speak u can’t handle caus I’m straight shooting and you can’t handle that . I know my footy mate so Poe down

this was ur message from 3.26am this morning peanut. bugger off and go rest.

 

[BigDog12]

Wales goes bang in the paper.

Also the border mail are really pumping up the rovers tyres for this season..