Certified Legendary Thread Patrick Cripps and Ah Chee

[BigFrizz36]

There appears to be a common misunderstanding in here as to why Cripps got off.

The only reason Cripps is playing is because the AFL tribunal botched the process that led to the original finding.

Had the AFL followed proper process at the tribunal the original finding (that Cripps bumped) would stand and there would have been no grounds to appeal.

The AFL chair led the decision makers to their finding, a finding that was never actually disussed or debated within the hearing itself.

Carlton only needed to prove that the process was flawed, which it did successfully. Own goal by the AFL. Amateur hour.

And even despite that they deliberated for about 45 minutes. So even though Gleeson misdirected them you would have to think that there was a fair nit I'd doubt amongst the other two on the original tribunal .

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

I thought Cotchin got let off and not fined because that tackle in no way fits in with a definition of a dangerous tackle. Take off your "I'm a poor victim and Victorians aren't doing enough to win my club the unearned success I feel it is entitled to" goggles and look at it again.

Cotchin was fined for a dangerous tackle that they player had to come off for concussion test . The Kelly tackle Berry didn't even hit his head and didn't leave the field and got a week .

 

[Maddo11]

People are still crying about this.

It's the morning after the appeal decision, how long are discussions allowed to happen boss?

 

[JyeDye]

I can’t believe Carlton supporters have a biased interest in their Captain and one of their best players getting off to play two games that are incredibly important in them making finals for the first time in almost 10 years.

 

[BigFrizz36]

* me Carlton supporters on here seem to have a reading issue. Reread my comment you quoted and use the 2 IQ points it would require to comprehend what I was saying. I will spell it out then. I wouldn't be surprised if the AFL doesn't try and exact their pound of flesh somehow and the conspiracy theorist in me believes that you will be reamed by the umps against Melbourne

Yeah. But we just call that normal.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Should be plenty of footage of Cripps contesting by jumping and taking a non-mark on chest then.

Perhaps there is. Would've been irrelevant to the case though.
Are you saying it NEVER happens?

 

[fnerd]

Some of the comments in here like this one are very childish.

Should've been a free kick to Cripps for obstruction.

Your not wrong!

 

[chunkylover53]

Oh give me a break.

Debating the laws of the game and the inability of the tribunal to consistently apply them is normal.

No different to the pile onto Josh Kennedy when he ironed out Sam Docherty in a poor attempt to punch the ball (in Kennedy’s words, not mine). The right decision was reached back then. The wrong one now.

Meh. Poor decisions are made all the time. Rioli got off for something worse earlier in the year didn't he?

The MRP is just a lotto, as if you'd bother even trying to analyze it to the nth degree to convince yourselves and others that it's all unfair; what an absolute waste of energy.

The conspiracy theories and those worried about the players heads are sooks.

Also weird how insecure Dees and Pies fans are, we're not going to beat you - with or without Cripps. Absolutely nothing to worry about.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Umm, his hands were out.

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He knocked him out with his forearm and elbow and pretended to go for the ball.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Also weird how insecure Dees and Pies fans are, we're not going to beat you - with or without Cripps. Absolutely nothing to worry about.

Not insecure, I want you to beat Melbourne. Get to it!

 

[PetterdHoisted]

Tim Kelly gets a week for the potential to cause an injury,where his opponents head suffered no impact and he got up and took his kick. Cripps gets off after causing a serious injury.
Makes perfect sense.

Ah Chee family or Vicpol should pursue the AFL for neglect/dangerous workplace, or was it safework during the EFC debacle?

Then the AFL might start taking head hits seriously

 

[WilloTree]

Sad that the consequence of Cripps trying to ‘inspire his team’ is that Cal received a concussion, will miss at least one game and has been receiving racist abuse from Carlton fans on social media.

That's disgusting.

 

[chunkylover53]

Sad that the consequence of Cripps trying to ‘inspire his team’ is that Cal received a concussion, will miss at least one game and has been receiving racist abuse from Carlton fans on social media.

First I've heard of this. Can you post links/screenshots?

 

[FlowersByIrene]

There appears to be a common misunderstanding in here as to why Cripps got off.

The only reason Cripps is playing is because the AFL tribunal botched the process that led to the original finding.

Had the AFL followed proper process at the tribunal the original finding (that Cripps bumped) would stand and there would have been no grounds to appeal.

The AFL chair led the decision makers to their finding, a finding that was never actually disussed or debated within the hearing itself.

Carlton only needed to prove that the process was flawed, which it did successfully. Own goal by the AFL. Amateur hour.

Not exactly, the AFL Tribunal made an incorrect decision, not only a procedurally flawed one. They determined he bumped, he did not.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Yeah. But we just call that normal.

Yep that's every game for us. Richmond fans who get slobbered on by the AFL wouldn't understand this.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

We are not the NFL. The NFL has these issues because they promote head high contact through their helmets and pads. Our game does not, head high contact is incidental and accidental.

Cool story but not based in fact. The NFL and NCAA are legislating in the same way we are, to eliminate unnecessary contact to the head from the game.

Here's a guide to targeting in college football and the NFL

 

[chunkylover53]

Your not wrong!

And you, my little Carlton-obsessed internet friend, need to go back to school!

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Not exactly, the AFL Tribunal made an incorrect decision, not only a procedurally flawed one. They determined he bumped, he did not.

The AFL Tribunal made a procedurally flawed determination, and a decision that agreed with Michael Christian’s assessment but not the appeals board.

 

[fnerd]

Accidents happen.

You mean like josh Kennedy on docherty??

After all Joey was simply “contesting the ball”!!!

 

[Dadda Dave]

Should've been a free kick to Cripps for obstruction.

Christian should get weeks for bringing the game into disrepute..

 

[Elixuh]

First I've heard of this. Can you post links/screenshots?

No, I’m not reposting someone else’s racist remarks. Cal has called out the comments on his social media.

 

[Robertio]

Christian should get weeks for bringing the game into disrepute..

Most of these opposition supporters would like our game to be like basketball, it was a shame and bad luck that the Brisbane player was concussed but it happens every week.

 

[Robertio]

No, I’m not reposting someone else’s racist remarks. Cal has called out the comments on his social media.

Saad was a recent victim of racial slurs as well, unfortunately it is still happening.

 

[Grin]

Cotchin was fined for a dangerous tackle that they player had to come off for concussion test . The Kelly tackle Berry didn't even hit his head and didn't leave the field and got a week .

I think you'll find that the player wasn't concussed and the charge was dismissed.
But that doesn't mean that Victorians shouldn't be doing much more to deliver unearned success to the club you support.
Whinge on

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Umm, his hands were out.

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The ball is literally about to land in his hands.