Pauline Hanson - One Nation Party

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[Ice-Wolf]

I don't love that she's back but potentially she's got more representation than Xenophon in the Senate, you can't dismiss that with derp, you're all stupid. That just plays it on her terms.

I'm not dismissing it I'm explaining it, she gives voice to the naughty thoughts in the backs of our heads and provides simple solutions. She plays to our more primal instincts and as shown throughout history that is a powerful thing.

Abbott does the same thing, people get caught up in the rhetoric without processing it rationally.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

If she wasn't a complete idiot she'd get a lot more votes. Listening to her the last couple of days it's as if she's become significantly dumber since the last time she was in parliament. Which is quite an achievement.

Yeah the only saving grace is that she can't articulate her position very well.

 

[Mateyman]

It's like the shock at the idea of an inquiry into climate change...If the theory is so absolutely clear and the science so settled, then surely such a high profile opportunity to demonstrate it and convince people should be welcomed!

We should also have an inquiry into whether the moon landings were faked and whether the earth is actually flat! If we're so confident of it, can't hurt spending a few million dollars confirming it!

 

[Ripper]

this has been the election that just keeps on giving ! Thanks Mal !

One nations Climate policy is excellent though, and should actually bring some debate to the media.

• Hold a Royal Commission (or similar) into the corruption of climate science and identify whether any individual or organisation has misled government to effect climate and energy policy.
• Remove all subsidies and financial advantages offered to the renewable energy industry and make them compete on an even playing field with other energy sources.
• Support reliable, low-cost power generation. This has previously been Australia’s strongest competitive advantage.
• Establish an independent Australian science body replacing the UN IPCC to report on climate science. It will be the beyond politicisation and be the basis of Australian policy on insurance and response to weather events.
• One Nation will oppose all taxes levied on carbon dioxide, be it a flat carbon tax or a floating emissions trading scheme…
• Abolish the Renewable Energy Target (RET) and support practical cost-effective research into energy efficiency, reliability and dependability.

• Cancel all agreements obliging Australia to pay for foreign Climate Action and payment to the United Nations and foreign institutions…

• Remove from the education system the teaching of a one-sided view of climate science. Teaching of climate science will begin in secondary school and will be based on the scientific method of scepticism until proven.
• Environmental impacts to be assessed on the use of empirical scientific evidence, not activists or non-government organisations pushing ideology and political agendas.
• Review the Bureau of Meteorology to ensure independence and accountability for weather and climate records, including public justification of persistent upward adjustments to historical climate records.
• Review the CSIRO to ensure independence and accountability and determine whether funding has influenced the direction and results of CSIRO’s positions on the climate claims. Funding from the UN in particular will be probed for an agenda not consistent for what is best for Australians.
• Ensure that all climate, energy and environmental policy decisions, requiring a scientific component, are based on the scientific method and empirical evidence. All decisions will be based on an economic, social and environmental assessment with environmental issues not automatically put ahead of humanity or economic realities.
• Support renewable energy that does not impact on the environment and encourage research in the ability to store energy at affordable cost to households and businesses.
• The wind industry must compensate all residents who have been proven to suffer from Wind Turbine Syndrome and any residents where the presence of wind turbines have negatively effected the price of their home.

I cannot see how any one could oppose that

 

[Maggie5]

this has been the election that just keeps on giving ! Thanks Mal !

One nations Climate policy is excellent though, and should actually bring some debate to the media.



I cannot see how any one could oppose that

Which parts are 'excellent' and why as I can't see anything besides wasting money that can be directed to worthier areas.

 

[DylanR]

Which parts are 'excellent' and why as I can't see anything besides wasting money that can be directed to worthier areas.

I think its a great list of stuff

 

[telsor]

We should also have an inquiry into whether the moon landings were faked and whether the earth is actually flat! If we're so confident of it, can't hurt spending a few million dollars confirming it!

If we were asking taxpayers to fork over billions every year on it (and many of the claims made about it proved incorrect) then yeah, a couple of million to check wouldn't be an awful idea.



BTW. Thanks for providing a supporting example for the main point of my post.

 

[telsor]

Which parts are 'excellent' and why as I can't see anything besides wasting money that can be directed to worthier areas.

Like building desal plants around the country because the dams will never fill again?

Yeah, no need to look into the 'settled science' that reached that conclusion.

 

[Mateyman]

If we were asking taxpayers to fork over billions every year on it (and many of the claims made about it proved incorrect) then yeah, a couple of million to check wouldn't be an awful idea.



BTW. Thanks for providing a supporting example for the main point of my post.

They spent billions on the faked moon landings also

 

[telsor]

They spent billions on the faked moon landings also

Is that coming out of next years budget, and every budget after that for a very long time?

It's not wrong to check into the things you're about to spend big bucks on.

I don't doubt the US congress in the 60's had a few looks at the space program, but like most REAL science, it could handle the scrutiny.

 

[CrazyJoeFevola]

History will repeat itself here in one aspect, the first time the One Nation/Hanson souffle rose in 96-99, the dribs and drabs of the Aussie lunar right hitched their wagon to her, I'm talking your Jim Saleam, Jack Van Tongeren, National Action and ANM types. They caused allsorts of internal and external chaos for her. Bookmark today's iteration of those nuts, Blair Cottrell and the UPF and True Blue Crew doing the exact same thing. (As well as the Mad arab Saleam and his Australia First Party having another bite of the cherry)

 

[mighty tiges]

this has been the election that just keeps on giving ! Thanks Mal !

One nations Climate policy is excellent though, and should actually bring some debate to the media.



I cannot see how any one could oppose that

You mean how anyone could oppose their conspiracy theories, their scientific illiteracy, their circle jerk of links to other politically ultra-conservative websites that all just regurgitate long debunked denialist statements, and now their claim of compo for a made up medical "syndrome".

When they link to Quadrant which posts:

The term “natural variability”, to warmists, means “stuff we can’t explain”.

Then don't be surprised when anyone with a science background just shakes their head and laughs at the crap these fruitloops come up with.

 

[Crankyhawk]

You do realise the year is 2016 and not 1950 don't you?

I have a problem with multiculturalism when the subculture expects their own legal process to become dominant over that of the mainstream culture, then gets upset when the mainstream don't agree (looking at those who campaign for sharia law to come into Australia)

 

[Juddism]

You do realise the year is 2016 and not 1950 don't you?

Swanston St..that is all. I don't like what she says but she is correct when she says we've been swamped by Asians. Then go look at the apartment towers being constructed, all backed by Chinese banks and targeted at Chinese investors.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Why is everyone so petrified of foreign investment, I really don't quite understand.

Food security is one reason - if foreign companies own lots of our farmland potentially the food that is grown wil go to home countries rather than local if shortages- eg the formula shortage caused by bulk buying to ship to China at inflated prices (different shortage type but same concept)

 

[pazza]

this has been the election that just keeps on giving ! Thanks Mal !

One nations Climate policy is excellent though, and should actually bring some debate to the media.



I cannot see how any one could oppose that

Read the bottom line. There has been no proven evidence on the affect of wind turbines. Anything that has been published has been disproven just as quickly.

Also removing the RET will actually affect the jobs and business in that very sector of the economy. We already know the shrinking of the RET has directly affected the businesses and jobs in the solar power sector.

 

[Juddism]

Food security is one reason - if foreign companies own lots of our farmland potentially the food that is grown wil go to home countries rather than local if shortages- eg the formula shortage caused by bulk buying to ship to China at inflated prices (different shortage type but same concept)

you seen the Chinese shipping shops around the city? they have shelves of the formula everywhere..my main problem is rich Chinese parking their dirty money in our country.

anyway, banks have ceased lending to overseas investors so that's a good start.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Saying you support One Nation for their "positive policies" is like saying you support Kim Jong Un for the consistent low crime rate.

Voting is restricted to 18 and above because you need to be an adult capable of understanding the consequences of what you're doing. Nobody who voted for them gets to plead ignorance. You're the ones responsible for the hatred and division that we're about to have to put up with.

 

[Maggie5]

I have a problem with multiculturalism when the subculture expects their own legal process to become dominant over that of the mainstream culture, then gets upset when the mainstream don't agree (looking at those who campaign for sharia law to come into Australia)

Who is campaigning for Sharia Law?

Swanston St..that is all. I don't like what she says but she is correct when she says we've been swamped by Asians. Then go look at the apartment towers being constructed, all backed by Chinese banks and targeted at Chinese investors.

It is more about how she goes about it.
It is not just Asians that are doing it.
Happy for her to talk about the law that allows this foreign investment but she puts it in a ways that implies Asians are the problem.

 

[stormee]

Food security is one reason - if foreign companies own lots of our farmland potentially the food that is grown wil go to home countries rather than local if shortages- eg the formula shortage caused by bulk buying to ship to China at inflated prices (different shortage type but same concept)

Surely this is a fundamental misunderstanding of a market based system - it doesn't matter who owns the farms that produce the milk, beef, whatever, they're aiming for profit and so will sell it to whoever will pay the most. If that's Chinese consumers then even Australian farmers are going to try and make more by selling to that market. I truly doubt any rational (and highly leveraged) investor in farmland is going to sell to the Chinese market if Australian consumers are paying $2/kg more for the goods in question.

The benefits far outweigh the costs - increased foreign investment in many cases leads to more efficient practices on the land. Kidman is a good example - the intent of the new owners is to increase the head of cattle on the station by something like 60 per cent, which will result in more profit, more tax, more workers employed, and more goods to be consumed both in domestic and foreign markets.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Looks like she will get a 3 year term
and hopefully not a return gig in 3 years time

 

[Maggie5]

Like building desal plants around the country because the dams will never fill again?

Yeah, no need to look into the 'settled science' that reached that conclusion.

Good point, agree lets not look at any infrastructure for a country that is growing. This will be cheap in 10 years time and it seems you have forgotten the water restrictions that were in force during that time.
A bit like the inconvenience that people in my area are experiencing with the Tullamarine Freeway as they had decided two lanes aren't enough and are widening it.
So glad far sighted people like you exist.

 

[Juddism]

Who is campaigning for Sharia Law?


It is more about how she goes about it.
It is not just Asians that are doing it.
Happy for her to talk about the law that allows this foreign investment but she puts it in a ways that implies Asians are the problem.

god help us if she could articulate herself better, yeah?

 

[Maggie5]

I think its a great list of stuff

Well argued, convinced me.

 

[Maggie5]

god help us if she could articulate herself better, yeah?

Way to miss the point, yep.