That’s not really true, people couldn’t split Wardlaw / Sheezel, Wardlaw would’ve been ahead if he didn’t have injury issues and starting a rebuild with a player of Sheezel’s profile didn’t make much sense for us imo, not to mention he also apparently was a genuine flight risk and interviewed poorly with interstate clubs.
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That’s not really true, people couldn’t split Wardlaw / Sheezel, Wardlaw would’ve been ahead if he didn’t have injury issues and starting a rebuild with a player of Sheezel’s profile didn’t make much sense for us imo, not to mention he also apparently was a genuine flight risk and interviewed poorly with interstate clubs.
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No its a Jarrad Brander thing.
Wary of drafting a 195cm utility and then the club develops them in the wrong position. And this time blows a top 3 pick doing it.
We want a gun mid. Curtin is an unproven mid.
Sorry not related to you.
Curtin isn't a desperate need.Most would rather Reid forward/mid or Mckercher a mid.Curtin isn't worth a pick one or two for a position we don't need at the moment provided the Gov can get his body right.Who knows maybe be able to get a w.a talent kpd next year.
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Good for you and North. That just proves North got bent over last year caught in a bad situation.
What has that got to do with the value of Harley Reid,? GeneratIonal talent with zero go hOme factor........other than Geelong that is.
and both pick 8 &12 ended up with rising stars nominations plus Culley who was msd last year ended up with one as well.Daily reminder that WC accepted 8 & 12 for pick 2 last year.
“Rabble rabble rabble Rohan doesn’t have a WA draft preference rabble Rohan will just draft Reid rabble”
we ended up with three and so did your mob.So if we are rabble so must your mob be.
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The mummy’s boy was also deemed a generational player and actually dominated against men in the sanfl
Refer to prelim final where he was bog
Compared to Harley’s games in the vfl which weren’t anywhere near as good
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Mummy's boy? Or a kid that had enough gumption to know he didn't want to live with Tarryn Thomas or be coached by David Noble for another minute and so did something to change it?
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Not the point I’m making but sure focus on that part of the comment
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what does that even mean? a top 5-6 talent but goes at 13.
Early in the year, Hewett was touted as a top 5 prospect, then he got Covid.
Also did a Sheezel/Wardlaw about not wanting to leave home, although Essendon supposedly were keen after our pick.
A player who is rated in the best 5 footballers purely on football talent, but for other factors teams won't risk a pick that early on them, e.g flight risk, poor attitude etc.
Using JHF as an example of why WC shouldn't take Reid makes no sense, I'm not sure why it keeps getting brought up.
That's the worst case scenario, the guy sooks it up after one year (which I'm pretty sure Reid wont).....and it's still very arguable if North is worse or better off than if they had just taken the pre draft trade from the Crows
If anything it's the perfect example of why WC should take the (so-called) "risk"
That's the worst case scenario, the guy sooks it up after one year (which I'm pretty sure Reid wont).....and it's still very arguable if North is worse or better off than if they had just taken the pre draft trade from the Crows
If anything it's the perfect example of why WC should take the (so-called) "risk"
I agree, I don’t really think the JHF situation is to applicable at all, other than the likely pressure he will be under.
The key point is really where ROB and his team rate McKercher vs Reid.
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Was refering to Sheezel and Wardlaw who both made it clear they didnt want to miss out on mums Sunday roasts.
The Eagles split pick 2 because of that, Wardlaw's hamstring issues (that continue) AND because two quality WA big inside mids were available.
This draft is very different. A single standout player. And mums Sunday roasts arent a factor this year.
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Eagles had decided fairly early that they wanted Ginbey and knew they would be able to get him with pick 8 and taking him earlier would be reaching and because a few of the Vic boys made plenty of noise about not wanting to leave mummy it was an easy trade to do to also get Hewett as the bonus.
That situation is not the same as this year, Eagles hold pick 1 and none of the projected top 5 kids are mummy boys.
That situation is not the same as this year, Eagles hold pick 1 and none of the projected top 5 kids are mummy boys.
3 of the top 5 will be Tasmanian or QLD'ders.
Not comparable to any year really.
We also don't know what Reid (less so imO, Watson or Duursma have really relayed.
Your theory doesn't really hold out either. Humphrey, McKenzie, Clarke and Phillipou (SA) were all rated in and around Ginbey anyway that we don't know about. You could have picked any of them, you seemed to trade back specifically for the WA kids than avoiding go home factor.
Regarding Sheezel, I don't really see it any different to the dozen or so WA aboriginal prospects that have wanted to stay closer to their communities. Liam Ryan being a good example. He was hot property after his WAFL year and pretty much made it known he wasn't moving out of WA. You can't be considerate for one but not for the other because he's Jewish instead of aboriginal. It's a unique case given the last prominent Jewish footballer was Ezra Poyes 23 years ago.
Bazzo didn't want to leave his mentally disabled brother (which retrospectively has worked out for the best given his mothers shock death).
Plenty of people potted LDU for years about not wanting to leave Victoria, until it was made public his father was battling terminal cancer in his draft year and passed away in his 3rd year.
Would you describe LDU a mummys boy in that scenario?
There's extenuating circumstances with a lot of players.
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This is certainly a strange draft year. Of the top 20, there are only 8 Victorians. I don't feel up to going back and looking, but that feels like it would have to be a record surely.
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None of the top 5 this year are making the noise like Sheezel did last year and Phillipou also had question marks on him.
It's also not a theory, I know for a fact and posted it last year on the Eagles board and in PMs that Eagles had settled on Ginbey who was not projected to go top 5 and at the time only GC was having a sniff of him.
Again, Sheezel is a jewish kid from Elsternwick who played at Ajax and went to Mt Scopus (I don't know if you are familiar with the Caulfield and Elsternwick areas of Melbourne)
32% of these suburbs are Jewish and are the largest Jewish communities in Australia.
I don't see it any different to an aboriginal kid not wanting to move away from their community in SA or WA.
It sucks for some teams, but other clubs have been on the receiving end plenty of times also.
It's clearly a unique situation given the amount of Jewish footballers to play AFL football.
It will happen more and more with the Sudanese draft prospects over the next decade(s) also imo.
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Again? You never mentioned it previously and also who gives a shit, I'm just stating a fact as to why the Eagles were happy to trade up and get Ginbey.
Didn't ask for your essay about why Sheezel is the same as an indigenous kid.
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Just would have been good if we’d played it like GCS did this year. We could have slid to 8 in steps, picked up a whole lot more collateral and still ended up with our targets. You’re on the money with Ginbey though we were taking him with our first pick regardless of where it landed.
Yeah I do not buy this bs one bit. There was no clear talent at 2 that wanted to go to WA.
The trade worked out well for all parties & contradicts the WC poster notion that your club are going to bleed ours dry in a pick swap.
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