Player X or Player Y (part 2)

[Just_ace]

Second one for sure. I wouldn't spend $150,000 for a bench player. Waters will be good this year, but option one is better.

Swan + Gray + Dangerfield

or

Trengrove + Chapman + O'keefe

Swan + Gray + Dangerfield by a mile

footycool - Hall looks set for a big start






Goddard + ball + Seaby + ziebell.

vs

carrazzo + masten + tippet + gray

 

[Blue Dimension]

Goddard + ball + Seaby + ziebell.

vs

carrazzo + masten + tippet + gray

I'd go Goddard, Ball, Seaby, Ziebell personally.

Goddard is solid and the best back choice imo. Ball will definitely improve with more TOG. Ziebell has plenty of upside. I wouldn't go with Seaby if i had the choice but Sydney have the uncanny knack of getting the best out of their recruits.

Carrazzo is too risky with tagging jobs and being a utility. I also question how much of an asset Tippet will be in DT this year.

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This question may have been already asked... sorry if it has.

Higgins Vs Sylvia

Can't split them personally. Higgins probably has more room for improvement, but I keep thinking back to the way Sylvia finished the year in 09 and I can't shake the feeling that he could really be solid this year.

Usually I make these decisions without asking but this one I can't split.

 

[Hodge2NormSmith]

With Higgins versus Sylvia, I'd lean slightly towards Higgins as i think he can still get better - I'm not so sure about Sylvia.

The only thing that would worry me is Higgins durability.

I hope this helps.

Hodge / Mitchell / Dangerfield

vs

Broughton or S.Fisher / Hodge / Medhurst.

So really Mitchell / Dangerfield vs Broughton or S.Fisher / Medhurst.

Thank you.

 

[Decipher]

Its not really that simple. I would not get Hodge in your mids TBH.
Only in the backs. And I would take him over Broughton or Fisher.

Based on that I would go option 1

 

[happy_eagle]

Boak, Trengove and Waters
or
S.Thompson, Barlow and Hunt

 

[Just_ace]

Boak, Trengove and Waters
or
S.Thompson, Barlow and Hunt

I would go the second option, but not really liking any of the high priced mids.








Liam Anthony and ballantine

or

sam mitchell and mayne

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

I would go the second option, but not really liking any of the high priced mids.








Liam Anthony and ballantine

or

sam mitchell and mayne

The second option only because i'm not a fan of guys like grimes, broughton, anthony at the price they are in there second season, I also think Mayne has more job security than Ballantyne.

Swan + Ball

or

Selwood + Mitchell

 

[DLab]

I personally like the Selwood, Mitchell combo. Mitchell is a DT stalwart (even though with a lot of hawks injuries early, could find it tough - R1 opponent is Melbourne though?) and Selwood has shown his ability to go massive.

Connors vs Scully?

Very similar price. Both will get oppourtunities early. I like the suggestion that Connors will be playing a sweeping half back role. Ripe for DT. Scully is a born and bred footballer though??

 

[yogibbear]

I personally like the Selwood, Mitchell combo. Mitchell is a DT stalwart (even though with a lot of hawks injuries early, could find it tough - R1 opponent is Melbourne though?) and Selwood has shown his ability to go massive.

Connors vs Scully?

Very similar price. Both will get oppourtunities early. I like the suggestion that Connors will be playing a sweeping half back role. Ripe for DT. Scully is a born and bred footballer though??

Hmm... neither. Surely Martin, Trengove and others take precendence.

Assuming ALL get named Rnd 1 (i.e. JKT gets rookie elevation):

a) Waters & Trengove (Melb)
or
b) Kennelly and JKT

 

[flackjack]

a) Waters & Trengove (Melb)
or
b) Kennelly and JKT

First option is less risky. I'm unsure how much of a run JKT will get once all the injured hawks come back in. Kennelly will average you about 70 max.

Any thoughts on

Gram + Boyd + Sylvia
vs
Mackie + Swan + Higgins?

 

[James23]

First option is less risky. I'm unsure how much of a run JKT will get once all the injured hawks come back in. Kennelly will average you about 70 max.

Any thoughts on

Gram + Boyd + Sylvia
vs
Mackie + Swan + Higgins?

I hear Gram has had a fairly interrupted preseason, Swan is a star premium and Higgins has room for improvement (barring injury) so i'd go the second option.

Franklin or Schneider?

 

[flackjack]

I hear Gram has had a fairly interrupted preseason, Swan is a star premium and Higgins has room for improvement (barring injury) so i'd go the second option.

Franklin or Schneider?

I've actually talked myself into taking Gram + Boyd + Slyvia over Mackie + Swan + Higgins, as I reckon there's a lot more upside to the first option. I can't see Swan averaging 120 again.

As for yours I would take Franklin over Schneider in a heartbeat. It may not be the most original choice, but we know Franklin's best is about 95 and at worst he'll average 80 I'd say. Schneider's best won't be anywhere near 95 I'd say, and his best could well only match Franklin's worst so I think he's a tad overpriced. People talk about Schneider getting some midfield time, but St.Kilda already have a crowded engine room so I can't see him pinching too many extra points from there. The price difference isn't that much either.

 

[Jimhouse]

Harvey (avg90) and NicNat(avg60) (1 keeper) = 150 points
or
Gray (avg80) and Tippet (avg75) (2 borderline keepers) = 155 points

But are the players in option 2 keepers?

 

[yogibbear]

Harvey (avg90) and NicNat(avg60) (1 keeper) = 150 points
or
Gray (avg80) and Tippet (avg75) (2 borderline keepers) = 155 points

But are the players in option 2 keepers?

Both could be. Though when i look at all the mid pricers in my team... i say that let's say one third of them end up being keepers (even if i spend 100 hrs researching every single one of them)... then i count how many trades i need to get everyone i want and if it's 7 spots that need replacing then i'm happy. So 2nd option if the rest of your structure can handle the extra trades potentially required. If you need another lock premium barring injurring then the first option. Though i wouldn't start nicnat if it was me.

 

[Jimhouse]

I managed to fit tippett and harvey in after downgrading ablett but im not sure that was the way to go. Im not really sold on Gray or Tippett at the moment though...
Im wondering if starting with one of Ablett/Swan is neccessary to be in with a chance this year.

 

[yogibbear]

I managed to fit tippett and harvey in after downgrading ablett but im not sure that was the way to go. Im not really sold on Gray or Tippett at the moment though...
Im wondering if starting with one of Ablett/Swan is neccessary to be in with a chance this year.

I personally think this year Ablett and Swan ruin good sides. Last year you needed Ablett or Swan. This year you don't. Last year Ablett wasn't 522k.... pretty sure he was only like 480 ish.... maybe... plus he might do a Michael Clarke.

 

[Jimhouse]

I have a feeling Abletts gonna start off well early on this year. Not sure how well his body will hold up though. Same with Swan, infact Swan might even be the safer option to go with because of his durability.

 

[major tom]

I managed to fit tippett and harvey in after downgrading ablett but im not sure that was the way to go. Im not really sold on Gray or Tippett at the moment though...
Im wondering if starting with one of Ablett/Swan is neccessary to be in with a chance this year.

The rationale to have one of the two is to have the best captaincy option. So it is not based on them being improvers but being the highest scorers.

J.Selwood, Malceski, Gray
OR
Shuey, Goddard, Riewoldt

 

[Sw3Et]

Definately 100% shuey/Goddard/riewoldt. All 3 are scoring machines... Well not so much shuey but he will probably score the most out of all the 1st / 2nd year players.

 

[wallcob]

The rationale to have one of the two is to have the best captaincy option. So it is not based on them being improvers but being the highest scorers.

J.Selwood, Malceski, Gray
OR
Shuey, Goddard, Riewoldt

i would probably say selwood, malceski and gray. shuey could potentially be a gun but he doesnt have the job security of selwood, malceski and gray.
selwood (105) + malceski (70) + gray (85-90)

shuey (60) + goddard (100) + reiwoldt (110)

thats what i think both options will get you, pretty much the same but its just shuey's job security that could come and hurt you.

im looking at

ziebell + dempsy + pavlich
v
ballantyne/campbell + joel macdonald + ROK

cheers

 

[Cynic]

Harvey (avg90) and NicNat(avg60) (1 keeper) = 150 points
or
Gray (avg80) and Tippet (avg75) (2 borderline keepers) = 155 points

But are the players in option 2 keepers?

At face value the answer is no because neither player is likely to be in or close enough to the top 7 / 2 players in their position.

 

[wallcob]

im looking at

ziebell + dempsy + pavlich
v
ballantyne/campbell + joel macdonald + ROK

cheers

 

[Modra93]

Dane Swan (Captain) + Robbie Gray + Lewis Jetta + Mitch Farmer

vs

Scott Pendlebury (Possible Captain) + Jordan Lewis (Possible Captain) + Robbie Tarrant + Matt Maguire

 

[Modra93]

im looking at

ziebell + dempsy + pavlich
v
ballantyne/campbell + joel macdonald + ROK

cheers

2nd one for me. ROK is a star and will outperform pav IMO, balla/campbell are looking good early and j mac in a new environment will outperform dempsey

 

[Lakey91]

At face value the answer is no because neither player is likely to be in or close enough to the top 7 / 2 players in their position.

Is that how you define a keeper? Or even a premium?

I would personally consider a premium top 10 in the mids/backs/fwds and top 5 in the rucks.

As for my thoughts on keeper values, I made a post on it here:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16512142&postcount=9

Im interested to see your thoughts on this...