Port Adelaide is a failed concept.

[aneale]

Now my apparently invented or inferred commentary. I haven't gone away from the problems Port Adelaide is facing. It's been a rough 5 year patch. It's been a rough patch that needs to be addressed. That's the administrators job. Get it wrong and it becomes a very big problem. Fix it and it's fixed.

It hasn't been 3 seasons since you were in a GF, it's not been that rough.

 

[wapower]

I hope you're not talking about the list of posts that Dodgy-1 posted. That list was proven to be a lie. I wouldn't rely on anything he hosts to support my arguments if I were you.

We're not talking about on-field success, we're talking about financial success, something port have never had.

Deflection fail. The topic is port's pathetic performance in the AFL, both on and off the field.

Can't even make your mind up about the premise of the topic now? Ignoring the very reasonable, applicable and rational colour issue. You're such an easy beat it's not fair.

 

[Amber Guzzler]

Can't even make your mind up about the premise of the topic now? You're such an easy beat it's not fair.

That's the way, deflect away. Port are shit, and the only response you have up your sleeve is to resort to personal attack.

Tell me again, what is it they're doing do at port to bring this 5 year rough period to an end? How exactly are they planning on turning their fortunes around? If these questions are too much for you, you can always cop out and resort to your usual schoolyard level personal attacks, then claim victory in a debate for which you haven't even provided a logical argument.

 

[Reckoner Tiger]

Let me take you on a journey.

It is a story that begins with a humble state football league deciding to go national.

In 1982, this league moved a club from Melbourne to Sydney and created a successful franchise. It not only had existing Melbourne based supporters, but Australia's largest city all felt they could embrace the club. No matter if you are from Asquith or Cabramatta...Sydney would be their club

The league, excited by this successful new market moved into WA and QLD in 1987 with the West Coast Eagles and the Brisbane Lions. Again, the beauty of the names were that anyone could feel associated with these clubs if you lived basically anywhere in WA or in Brisbane.

Adelaide and Fremantle also joined, with the same new supporter bases as the above, based on the same premis that the new club must have the pargest possible reach for supporters and corporate support.

Then the league screwed up.

Rather than building a new club, and branding it with a name that all from the region could potentially follow, it chose to allow the nations biggest bogan brand into its competition.

Yes, Port had a following and a history with another league. Surely they could pick all that up and replicate it in the national League

First they stripped the club of their traditional colours, logo and theme song. Then they made them play on the other side of town from its supporter base where public transport can't ferry the dole bludgers to. then they came up with the soleless name of the Power and game them the blandest colours in the game.

To try and get some spirit into the club, they even loaned them the Big V guernsey in 2010 to see if Mr Football could get themup and about.

What does it all now mean, since that fateful first season in 1997 for the Power?

FAIL

No growth prospects unless they sign up every new person who moves into the Port Adelaide municipality. no one even wants them for their second club as they represent filthy people in a filthy area

To make matters worse, the club heading for a $4m trading loss, the clubs major sponsor doesnt want the coach, the coach doesnt want the captain, the club hires a failed assistant coach, wastes draft picks on Shultz and tolerates the behaviour of Motlop

It's time to kill off this cancer in the league

GC17 will work as the whole region will feel part of it. GWS will also work.

Port Adelaide is a failed concept. Back to your state league...filth

embarrassing

this.
i choked with laugher.

 

[Papa Juggs]

Wont anyone miss us?!?

I still have my pr0n.

Enjoy 2004. 44 years is about how long it takes to win another

 

[wapower]

That's the way, deflect away. Port are shit, and the only response you have up your sleeve is to resort to personal attack.

Tell me again, what is it they're doing do at port to bring this 5 year rough period to an end? How exactly are they planning on turning their fortunes around? If these questions are too much for you, you can always cop out and resort to your usual schoolyard level personal attacks, then claim victory in a debate for which you haven't even provided a logical argument.

There you go trying to save face again. You've made yourself look like a fool and you're now looking for a way to turn the attention from your very simple self. You've confused yourself like the donkey that you are and are backtracking faster that Jason Akermanis in a men's club. Shame there's no ghost writer for you to pin your own stupidity on.

There's a whole host of strategies that involve increasing levels of sponsorship, attraction of new members, signing up dormant or former members, working towards a better stadium deal, developing a more sustainable business model, club investment and providing the players with better facilities and so on.

Here's a crazy idea. I'm going to try hating South Africa and Brazil for wearing green and gold at the World Cup because Australia does. I might even hate France, Japan and Slovakia for wearing blue like Italy too.

As I said Amber Guzzler you're an easy beat and frankly no challenge to anyone. Interestingly there's an Adelaide poster with a few usernames who is exactly the same too.

 

[Amber Guzzler]

That's the way, deflect away. Port are shit, and the only response you have up your sleeve is to resort to personal attack.

Tell me again, what is it they're doing do at port to bring this 5 year rough period to an end? How exactly are they planning on turning their fortunes around? If these questions are too much for you, you can always cop out and resort to your usual schoolyard level personal attacks, then claim victory in a debate for which you haven't even provided a logical argument.

There you go trying to save face again. You've made yourself look like a fool and you're now looking for a way to turn the attention from your very simple self. You've confused yourself like the donkey that you are and are backtracking faster that Jason Akermanis in a men's club.

There's a whole host of strategies that involve increasing levels of sponsorship, attraction of new members, signing up dormant or former members, working towards a better stadium deal, providing the players with better facilities and so on.

Here's a crazy idea. I'm going to try hating South Africa and Brazil for wearing green and gold at the World Cup because Australia does. I might even hate France, Japan and Slovakia for wearing blue like Italy too.

As I said Amber Guzzler. You're an easy beat and frankly no challenge to anyone... interestingly there's an Adelaide poster with a few usernames who is exactly the same too.

My god you're predictable.

 

[wapower]

My god you're predictable.

You asked, I delivered and you were flogged. Enjoy your station at the bottom of the Bay 13 dung heap precious.

 

[Amber Guzzler]

You asked, I delivered and you were flogged. Enjoy your station at the bottom of the Bay 13 dung heap precious.

I asked you to debate the topic, and you resorted to personal attacks and baseless accusations, rather than enter a debate that can only be won be admitting that port are a pathetic rabble, with serious long term problems. If that's a victory for you, then so be it. I suppose being a port supporter means you have to conjure up victories where ever you can.

You don't win debates by ignoring the topic and insulting your opponent. That might suffice in the school ground, but in the adult world it takes a lot more than that to rightfully claim victory. You're a long way off, just like your pathetic port.

 

[wapower]

I asked you to debate the topic, and you resorted to personal attacks and baseless accusations, rather than enter a debate that can only be won be admitting that port are a pathetic rabble, with serious long term problems. If that's a victory for you, then so be it. I suppose being a port supporter means you have to conjure up victories where ever you can.

You don't win debates by ignoring the topic and insulting your opponent. That might suffice in the school ground, but in the adult world it takes a lot more than that to rightfully claim victory. You're a long way off, just like your pathetic port.

You confused yourself as to what the topic was about. That has been quoted and referenced. You can't even debate that. Next you asked a specific question regarding Port Adelaide. In simplistic fashion that has been answered in the space of a paragraph.

Now I don't profess to be a person of Stephen Hawking's intellect but you're just plain simple... or is it an "idiot servant"? Keep up the good work easy beat captain self confusion..

Irrational pretend hate because of colours... what a loser. Well I'm preparing to watch the Socceroos. Let's hope they offer more resistance than you do! Night sweety.

Go roos!

 

[Amber Guzzler]

You confused yourself as to what the topic was about. That has been quoted and referenced. You can't even debate that. Next you asked a specific question regarding Port Adelaide. In simplistic fashion that has been answered in the space of a paragraph.

Now I don't profess to be a person of Stephen Hawking's intellect but you're just plain simple... or is it an "idiot servant"? Keep up the good work easy beat captain self confusion..

Irrational pretend hate because of colours... what a loser. Well I'm preparing to watch the Socceroos. Let's hope they offer more resistance than you do! Night sweety.

Go roos!

Truly pathetic. Can't debate the topic, can't defend your club without resorting to personal insults and totally unfounded accusation. Yeah, you're a real winner.

 

[Mr Magoo]

That's the way, deflect away. Port are shit, and the only response you have up your sleeve is to resort to personal attack.

Tell me again, what is it they're doing do at port to bring this 5 year rough period to an end? How exactly are they planning on turning their fortunes around? If these questions are too much for you, you can always cop out and resort to your usual schoolyard level personal attacks, then claim victory in a debate for which you haven't even provided a logical argument.

While Port are going through a rough trot at the moment (due to us redeveloping our playing list) i cant see us languishing at the bottom of the table as both Collinwood & carlton have done since we joined the afl. Both of these teams have also won the wooden spoon since Port joined the afl. Both of these clubs have also had financial difficulties in the past as well.. the VFL had to expand their competition because a number of clubs were going broke including collinwood & carlton.. so they came up with the idea of a national comp which would also increase interest in the game particularly in W.A (due to the eagles & then freo), S.A (due to the camry crows & then Port), Brisbane (Lions) & Sydney (South Melbourne moved there because they were that close to going broke they were going to fold or relocate (correct me if im wrong here) so the afl/vfl gave them millions of dollars help to enter the NSW market including an increase salary cap etc.)

 

[Amber Guzzler]

While Port are going through a rough trot at the moment (due to us redeveloping our playing list) i cant see us languishing at the bottom of the table as both Collinwood & carlton have done since we joined the afl.

Well you in 12th now, and if Melbourne beat the pie tomorrow, you'll be 13th. Your recent form suggests you'll not win more than 2 games in your next 9, by which stage you'll be well and truly cemented into the bottom 4. Redeveloping your playing list? 5 weeks ago you were the new and improved port, ready to take them on in the finals. Now you're redeveloping?

Both of these teams have also won the wooden spoon since Port joined the afl. Both of these clubs have also had financial difficulties in the past as well.. the VFL had to expand their competition because a number of clubs were going broke including collinwood & carlton.. so they came up with the idea of a national comp which would also increase interest in the game particularly in W.A (due to the eagles & then freo), S.A (due to the camry crows & then Port), Brisbane (Lions) & Sydney (South Melbourne moved there because they were that close to going broke they were going to fold or relocate (correct me if im wrong here) so the afl/vfl gave them millions of dollars help to enter the NSW market including an increase salary cap etc.)

Yes, there have been other clubs that have struggled financially. Not sure how this relates to port though. Port are struggling now, and there doesn't appear to be any viable solutions on offer. They can't even get people to turn up to their games.

 

[kirky]

First they stripped the club of their traditional colours, logo and theme song. Then they made them play on the other side of town from its supporter base where public transport can't ferry the dole bludgers to. then they came up with the soleless name of the Power and game them the blandest colours in the game.

The only significant error.

Port are closest to AAMI stadium than any of the other SANFL sides.

Their main problem - they were the most successful side in the SANFL with their 35 or so premierships and yet even with this success they still struggled financially and why would that be? The demographic of their supporter base - they don't have money and won't or can't fork out for memberships. Business plan was fatally flawed.

 

[footy75]

Let me take you on a journey.

It is a story that begins with a humble state football league deciding to go national.

In 1982, this league moved a club from Melbourne to Sydney and created a successful franchise. It not only had existing Melbourne based supporters, but Australia's largest city all felt they could embrace the club. No matter if you are from Asquith or Cabramatta...Sydney would be their club

The league, excited by this successful new market moved into WA and QLD in 1987 with the West Coast Eagles and the Brisbane Lions. Again, the beauty of the names were that anyone could feel associated with these clubs if you lived basically anywhere in WA or in Brisbane.

Adelaide and Fremantle also joined, with the same new supporter bases as the above, based on the same premis that the new club must have the pargest possible reach for supporters and corporate support.

Then the league screwed up.

Rather than building a new club, and branding it with a name that all from the region could potentially follow, it chose to allow the nations biggest bogan brand into its competition.

Yes, Port had a following and a history with another league. Surely they could pick all that up and replicate it in the national League

First they stripped the club of their traditional colours, logo and theme song. Then they made them play on the other side of town from its supporter base where public transport can't ferry the dole bludgers to. then they came up with the soleless name of the Power and game them the blandest colours in the game.

To try and get some spirit into the club, they even loaned them the Big V guernsey in 2010 to see if Mr Football could get themup and about.

What does it all now mean, since that fateful first season in 1997 for the Power?

FAIL

No growth prospects unless they sign up every new person who moves into the Port Adelaide municipality. no one even wants them for their second club as they represent filthy people in a filthy area

To make matters worse, the club heading for a $4m trading loss, the clubs major sponsor doesnt want the coach, the coach doesnt want the captain, the club hires a failed assistant coach, wastes draft picks on Shultz and tolerates the behaviour of Motlop

It's time to kill off this cancer in the league

GC17 will work as the whole region will feel part of it. GWS will also work.

Port Adelaide is a failed concept. Back to your state league...filth

perfectly put Dennis.. Why should this overated club with no money and scumbag supporters have the opportunity to play in the AFL more so than other South Australian football clubs??

The sooner we see the back of this scum ridden club the better.

 

[feistyfella]

The Port Power wasn't a total failed concept. It brought to light for all Australians how truly disgusting Port Adelaide and their supporters really are, it's no longer a faint rumor from the faraway land of the croweaters.

Without the AFL, the Port Adelaide filth would not have been exposed in such a light. Sure, the failed visions like anticipating that the AFL umpires would be as corrupt as the SANFL umpires, or that somehow Port Adelaide would gain an incoming tide of national support by joining the AFL is a mystery to all, but who out there in croweater country ever envisioned such a national reflection of disdain towards Port Adelaide and their infamous supporters in the same manner as was common knowledge at the state level?? Who would have envisioned that common knowledge in S.A. like praying your car was still there after a game at Alberton would soon be common knowledge across Australia.

I guess it depends on where you're looking at it from. If you're looking at building a successful enterprise, then yes, Port Adelaide was a failed concept. Most businesses that are started due to greed instead of having a clear vision of the future usually end up in failure. Talk of a merger is just heresy for Port Adelaide supporters as much as it is for the poor, unfortunate club chosen to merge with a bunch of nationally renowned liars and cheaters.

 

[D_One]

My comment still stands whichever user you pretend like being today. It's been a rough 5 year patch. Nothing more.

Correct and my comments still stands. Geoffa and AG cannot simultaneously maintain their posting intensity. Both present exaxtly the same lame arguments and both have a fascinantion with all things Port Adelaide.

 

[D_One]

Can't even make your mind up about the premise of the topic now? Ignoring the very reasonable, applicable and rational colour issue. You're such an easy beat it's not fair.

Correct. When you prove one of Amber Guzzlla32's arguments wrong he will immediately move the goal post ... everytime.

 

[Amber Guzzler]

Correct. When you prove one of Amber Guzzlla32's arguments wrong he will immediately move the goal post ... everytime.

LOL. That's rich. The only thing that he's proven is that he doesn't have an argument, and thinks insults and baseless accusations will do instead. Much like yourself.

 

[xamol]

If we have a thread/troll of the year later this year, this one definitely has be nominated.

 

[Amber Guzzler]

Correct and my comments still stands. Geoffa and AG cannot simultaneously maintain their posting intensity. Both present exaxtly the same lame arguments and both have a fascinantion with all things Port Adelaide.

Dodge, dip, duck, dive.... and dodge.

 

[D_One]

What would you call a club that demands the right to wear your club's colours.

The AFL has a heritage round with a 70’s theme. Guess what, we wore black and white in the 70s.

 

[D_One]

It's the fact that they continue to demand the right to wear our colours that makes me hate them so.

A hatred based on colours, it should be easy enough to make you look like a complete flog. Oh I see WAPower already has. Nothing to see here, c’mon everybody move on.

 

[D_One]

Here's my suggestion. Go back to the SANFL, where your pathetic attendance and financial situation belongs.

From Football Ltd page 284

At the start of the 1986 season, Ranald Macdonald’s great experiment with eth New Magpies was in ruins; players had been asked to take a 10 per cent salary cut in January to enable the club to remain within its salary cap of $1.15 million. They had rejected the but by April, Macdonald’s board had decided to impose a 20 per cent cut in a bid to save $230,000.

Collingwood was in turmoil. The club had a deficit of $2.9 million.

May be the league would have been better off killing of this joke of a club back then.

 

[D_One]

I asked you to debate the topic, and you resorted to personal attacks and baseless accusations, rather than enter a debate that can only be won be admitting that port are a pathetic rabble, with serious long term problems. If that's a victory for you, then so be it. I suppose being a port supporter means you have to conjure up victories where ever you can.

Spare me the hypocrisy. You have resorted to name calling numerous times. You’re irrational hatred of a club based solely on the fact that they wanted to wear their 70s heritage guernsey during a 70s heritage round just reeks of suspicion.