Port Adelaide's plan to use jumpers similar to Collingwood

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Let’s be honest here if PAFC could of worn one jumper when we entered the AFL what would it have been? I think we all know that answer.
So obviously PAFC decided it was more important to join the AFL than wear the jumper.

You have to live with the consequences of the decisions you make.
 

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Let’s be honest here if PAFC could of worn one jumper when we entered the AFL what would it have been? I think we all know that answer.
So the jumper you won a flag in and Warren Tredrea, Robbie Gray, Travis Boak where and play for every week is junk in the eyes of the fans.

Good to know. Great club you’ve got there.
 
At the same time, I can see Collingwood's side of it and what they want to protect. Port have everything to gain, Collingwood have more to lose.

Like all things, it always boils down to money but in this situation who are Collingwood losing too again? Do you think their own supporters would be confused and mistakenly follow the wrong club or purchase the wrong merchandise? Do you think their corporate interests would get scared off because they are not backing an exclusive club? Or do you think Collingwood are trying to appeal to an international audience for new members?

During the last two years I have been heavily interested in international audience of the AFL especially in the USA when the sport took off for a period as it was the only live sport being played world wide. A lot of international audience sees the Collingwood strip as more of representation of a referee strip rather than an iconic sporting strip as most american sports use that strip to represent sport authority.

They more identify Collingwood with the association of Mason Cox rather than the guernsey they wear. Initially they got great exposure from an Ex NFL punter now popular podcaster Pat McAfee but that died off pretty quickly as his focused swung back into NFL & other american sports once they restarted.

It would be an interesting study to determine if a playing strip affects people who are new to the game to decide which team they choose.

To be honest, it probably doesn't matter what you wear as long as your club represent values that new, current fans & members would enjoy. The unique playing strip only matters the club itself and its core members & fans. The arguments put forward in denying PAFC is so archaic that it does not bode well for the future development of the game. The AFL is doing itself a disservice here by ignoring fans desires and listening to a self centred few but I guess progressiveness is not in Gillons DNA, conserve at all costs approach except when the rules of the game needs a tweak every 5 minutes.
 
If Norwood for some reason decided they wanted to wear a black and white jumper back in the 80’s then I am sure Port Woukd of had a problem with it.
Just wanted to make a quick note about this here.

I think it’s a bit different if a team with absolutely no history using colours identical to another club in the competition.
 

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Isn't it a jersey?

Jersey is the American term. Only acceptable terms are guernsey and jumper imo, but I'm surprised at how little guernsey seems to be used today. Even the players mostly say jumper.

Everyone always said guernsey in Tassie, maybe it's a regional thing.
 
Jersey is the American term. Only acceptable terms are guernsey and jumper imo, but I'm surprised at how little guernsey seems to be used today. Even the players mostly say jumper.

Everyone always said guernsey in Tassie, maybe it's a regional thing.

Most people these days say defender rather than a backman.

And call a behind a point, when a behind only equals one point.
 
Most people these days say defender rather than a backman.

And call a behind a point, when a behind only equals one point.

I'm probably guilty of both
 
So I think we can all agree Ports Prison Bars are nothing like Collingwoods, visually very different even including a horizontal bar terminating the ‘stripes’. They are in fact. a completely different design.

So is it the colours? Or the design? As teams already share the same colours, it must be the design?



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At the moment, I can point to several other examples of this working just fine elsewhere in major professional sports leagues, both bigger and smaller than the AFL. Bulls/Raptors. Maple Leafs/Lightning. Sydney FC/Melbourne City. the entire Premier League and every soccer league really. Patriots/Texans. Western Force/Otago Highlanders. Heaps of different baseball teams.

I've been asking you over about half this thread, as have others, to successfully refute this point if you're going to keep arguing that it would hurt Collingwood for Port to wear the bars twice a year. You haven't even attempted to do so and the post you're making now feels a lot like more deflection and stalling. If you finally construct and post an argument, i'll engage with it reasonably.

Sigh...

Ok. I’ll respond, and hope you will engage in good faith.

Gimme a day or so. Other priorities.


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So I think we can all agree Ports Prison Bars are nothing like Collingwoods, visually very different even including a horizontal bar terminating the ‘stripes’. They are in fact. a completely different design.

So is it the colours? Or the design? As teams already share the same colours, it must be the design?



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No we can’t “all agree”. In fact, very few would agree


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So I think we can all agree Ports Prison Bars are nothing like Collingwoods, visually very different even including a horizontal bar terminating the ‘stripes’. They are in fact. a completely different design.

So is it the colours? Or the design? As teams already share the same colours, it must be the design?



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How many times do Port fans need it drummed in?

Black and white stripes are Collingwood's colours and design.

The 'Bars contain black n white stripes.

If Port played in black n teal, or silver in teal 'Bars no problems.

Pretty easy transition too. Black n white Bars was part of your SANFL Magpies heritage. You are fine with dropping the Magpies, so now that you are running with Port Adelaide....unify under Black n Teal 'Bars.

Perfect nod to the Magpie heritage, whilst also highlighting the change to Power when Port moved on from the SANFL.
 
How many times do Port fans need it drummed in?

Black and white stripes are Collingwood's colours and design.

The 'Bars contain black n white stripes.

If Port played in black n teal, or silver in teal 'Bars no problems.

Pretty easy transition too. Black n white Bars was part of your SANFL Magpies heritage. You are fine with dropping the Magpies, so now that you are running with Port Adelaide....unify under Black n Teal 'Bars.

Perfect nod to the Magpie heritage, whilst also highlighting the change to Power when Port moved on from the SANFL.

1. Drum counter infinity, PAFC care factor 0.

2. So are Zebras, but I don't see CFC having a whinge about that.

3. No problems for you but hard core PAFC care... A lot.

4. News flash, where's the Magpie or Power in our new logo. Nicknames no longer means anything to us. We are the Port Adelaide Football Club.

5. No choice at the time and AFL like nicknames.

Have fun getting sick and tired of this topic because it will never ever end.
 

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