Personally l would like to see Adams handed the captaincy next year. Pendles is a champ of the game, but with age l would now like to see him focus on his game and remaining injury free.
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Personally l would like to see Adams handed the captaincy next year. Pendles is a champ of the game, but with age l would now like to see him focus on his game and remaining injury free.
Buckley said the forwards are on notice....well l think he and his coaching staff are in the same boat. He will coach next year, but if we have the disappointing season we have had for the last 3 years now, then he will not be coaching this club in 2018.
If Broomy is fit to go next week and Sinkers is out, then I'd play him off half back. Speed and can kick
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NO mate. think you've read that wrong. It was exactly the same as last week against Adelaide. We lost every center clearance and despite this none of the forwards came down to half back at the center bounces. It is unfair to blame the backline when your midfield is getting smashed and neither the coaching staff or senior players on the field bother to try to do anything about it.
Playing for a second rounder!
Our midfield looked terrible at the clearances, particular in the center
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My favourite part of our centre clearance work was how our forwards let Lindsay Thomas run unopposed from the forward line straight through the middle and get the clearance.
It happen so often, it must of been a joy for both coaching staff's to see a plan success. Our coaching staff got us to free up our forward line and create space, norf, well they just wanted the clearance.
It happen so often, it must of been a joy for both coaching staff's to see a plan success. Our coaching staff got us to free up our forward line and create space, norf, well they just wanted the clearance.
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His kick into a target was from memory the only one that was on target.
The rest need to lower the eyes or at least kick to a contest, how many times did we kick straight to a Norf defender all alone.
Aisho looking goodo
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Nailed it!
North absolutely smashed us out the center for the 1st half especially so in the 1st.
Wells didnt have an opponent half the time and just waited out the back for the recieve or waltzed straight through to recieve the tap. Then they used Swallow in this way in the 2nd half.
Their defenders held the structures well and smashed our fwd line bar a lone hand in Darcy Moore and at times Blair but he did as much good things as he did poor.
Our players are very poorly skilled, appear to lack a yard across the board like we have a team full of medium pacers.
We really struggle to make and create space and our spread is often matched by opposing teams as if we don't have the pace to break away clean. Something nth was able to do with alarming regularity.
Most of our clearences are scrub kicks fwd and very rarely is it a clean efficient break.
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The midfield was badly beaten in the first quarter, but that has nothing to do with the backline turning the ball over from kick-ins etc. Marsh and Howe were putrid early and cost goals, none of which can be attributed to the midfield.
This from the AFL site match feed - "Collingwood has conceded seven points per game from defensive 50 turnovers this season. It has already conceded 24 points tonight." That was at the 16 minute mark of the first quarter. 4 goals from defensive turnovers. They were equally as terrible as the midfield.
Wells is also an elite talent when in full flight.
As much as everyone hates Thomas for playing for frees he's also a very capable small fwd and has moments that create momentum swings. Something we lack.
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Not on the ground and how do we know what he does in Team Meetings?
He hosts the team meetings on facebook.
Just take a guess, make accusations based on that guess and sack the culprit, I guess.
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We have a long way to go unless we can clean up some of the undisciplined acts from this team of players. So disappointed today...
3 Players gave away 11 free kicks out of the 22 - Grundy (4), Williams (4), Greenwood (3)
Not sure how many 50 metre penalties or free kicks that resulted in goals.
Stupid skill errors and brain fades, not sure it is speed, they don't work hard enough for each other.
Why can't our forwards keep their structure? Total of 27 possessions from our 4 forwards, not good enough.
Then back to good old selection:
Was Fasolo fit?
Why Williams?
Not just rib problems with Pendlebury (If by some miracle we had gotten into the finals, you need a squad of at least 27, a fit captain and a player of his calibre is paramount).
Too much left to too few again, minus in almost every key stat except cont. poss and tackles (59 Marks to 88).
Crisp and Blair - 9 tackles each.
Rant over/
3 Players gave away 11 free kicks out of the 22 - Grundy (4), Williams (4), Greenwood (3)
Not sure how many 50 metre penalties or free kicks that resulted in goals.
Stupid skill errors and brain fades, not sure it is speed, they don't work hard enough for each other.
Why can't our forwards keep their structure? Total of 27 possessions from our 4 forwards, not good enough.
Then back to good old selection:
Was Fasolo fit?
Why Williams?
Not just rib problems with Pendlebury (If by some miracle we had gotten into the finals, you need a squad of at least 27, a fit captain and a player of his calibre is paramount).
Too much left to too few again, minus in almost every key stat except cont. poss and tackles (59 Marks to 88).
Crisp and Blair - 9 tackles each.
Rant over/
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But it was a reasonably accurate rantWe have a long way to go unless we can clean up some of the undisciplined acts from this team of players. So disappointed today...
3 Players gave away 11 free kicks out of the 22 - Grundy (4), Williams (4), Greenwood (3)
Not sure how many 50 metre penalties or free kicks that resulted in goals.
Stupid skill errors and brain fades, not sure it is speed, they don't work hard enough for each other.
Why can't our forwards keep their structure? Total of 27 possessions from our 4 forwards, not good enough.
Then back to good old selection:
Was Fasolo fit?
Why Williams?
Not just rib problems with Pendlebury (If by some miracle we had gotten into the finals, you need a squad of at least 27, a fit captain and a player of his calibre is paramount).
Too much left to too few again, minus in almost every key stat except cont. poss and tackles (59 Marks to 88).
Crisp and Blair - 9 tackles each.
Rant over/
We have a long way to go unless we can clean up some of the undisciplined acts from this team of players. So disappointed today...
3 Players gave away 11 free kicks out of the 22 - Grundy (4), Williams (4), Greenwood (3)
Not sure how many 50 metre penalties or free kicks that resulted in goals.
Stupid skill errors and brain fades, not sure it is speed, they don't work hard enough for each other.
Why can't our forwards keep their structure? Total of 27 possessions from our 4 forwards, not good enough.
Then back to good old selection:
Was Fasolo fit?
Why Williams?
Not just rib problems with Pendlebury (If by some miracle we had gotten into the finals, you need a squad of at least 27, a fit captain and a player of his calibre is paramount).
Too much left to too few again, minus in almost every key stat except cont. poss and tackles (59 Marks to 88).
Crisp and Blair - 9 tackles each.
Rant over/
Its not just speed but our side across the board appears to lack a yard.
Other factors like positioning and also being often stagnant leaves them reactive rather than proactive.
So while its likey it is a combination of factors making them appear slower I still think we have 1 too many medium pacers and need to add a line breaker or 3.
Many times throughout the year i have watched a lot of our players start on an even keel with opponents and get burnt for pace.
Last night when north got the ball in congestion and then spread they gained distance on our mids without fail.
On the other hand when we spread they were able to keep up and close off any options.
It's amazing that when sides hit running handball targets one after the other, they look fast. When the opposition is doing it well, teams look slow. When teams don't hit those running targets, fumble, chase arse, they look slow.We have a long way to go unless we can clean up some of the undisciplined acts from this team of players. So disappointed today...
3 Players gave away 11 free kicks out of the 22 - Grundy (4), Williams (4), Greenwood (3)
Not sure how many 50 metre penalties or free kicks that resulted in goals.
Stupid skill errors and brain fades, not sure it is speed, they don't work hard enough for each other.
Why can't our forwards keep their structure? Total of 27 possessions from our 4 forwards, not good enough.
Then back to good old selection:
Was Fasolo fit?
Why Williams?
Not just rib problems with Pendlebury (If by some miracle we had gotten into the finals, you need a squad of at least 27, a fit captain and a player of his calibre is paramount).
Too much left to too few again, minus in almost every key stat except cont. poss and tackles (59 Marks to 88).
Crisp and Blair - 9 tackles each.
Rant over/
So when the ball is bounced in the center with all players standing side by side and their team consistantly is able to get yardage on ours but when we win possesion and spread are unable to break free what does that say?
Partly structure, partly stagnation but also lacking speed to break away.
I would add that we have an inordinate amount of one sided players which effects our ball movement/options.
We really need to overhaul the whole coaching department. Each line coach needs to fight for their job as we seem to be either inconsistent or non-existent.
It's difficult to work out how bad the forward coaching has been without understanding how the midfield is being asked to play.
Very rarely are our midfielders streaming through in space. They seem to follow eachother only a metre away rather than away from the congestion with space in front of them. Is that how they are being coached to play?
The nucleus is there for a very good team. Unfortunately, they don't play in a fluid motion.
I'd like to see a fresh new approach with new ideas from outside the club. Too many old pie players hold positions which they shouldn't. Rocca, Lockyer, Burns......are they the best in their roles? Brent Harvey has been hopeless.
How can we go from getting demolished in centre clearances to then getting on top? Coaches take too long to react. It was obvious in the first qtr what the Roos were doing with Wells yet we didn't attempt to combat that in the qtr at all? Does Bucks have too much confidence in the players?
Whether we like it or not, Bucks and his team have had time. Sure injuries haven't helped, however, that should stop the guys who are on the park from playing with some sort of system. It just hasn't happened.
There has been a real failure to recruit leaders.
The most basic skills have been embarrassing. Maynard can't be gifting goals like that. Who is in charge of development?
Team selection has also been ordinary.
Cloke needs to go end of the year. He will pop up with a game here or there, but we need to develop the forward line without him.
Can't help but think the club has been far too patient now. I thought Bucks would have the boys at least firing in the second half of the season. We need a fresh, exciting coaching team for 2017, rather than the stale, uninspiring group we have at present. It's not going to happen by recruiting a player or two. We have seen that. We need to get that spring back into the club. We need the kids to play for the coach.
It's difficult to work out how bad the forward coaching has been without understanding how the midfield is being asked to play.
Very rarely are our midfielders streaming through in space. They seem to follow eachother only a metre away rather than away from the congestion with space in front of them. Is that how they are being coached to play?
The nucleus is there for a very good team. Unfortunately, they don't play in a fluid motion.
I'd like to see a fresh new approach with new ideas from outside the club. Too many old pie players hold positions which they shouldn't. Rocca, Lockyer, Burns......are they the best in their roles? Brent Harvey has been hopeless.
How can we go from getting demolished in centre clearances to then getting on top? Coaches take too long to react. It was obvious in the first qtr what the Roos were doing with Wells yet we didn't attempt to combat that in the qtr at all? Does Bucks have too much confidence in the players?
Whether we like it or not, Bucks and his team have had time. Sure injuries haven't helped, however, that should stop the guys who are on the park from playing with some sort of system. It just hasn't happened.
There has been a real failure to recruit leaders.
The most basic skills have been embarrassing. Maynard can't be gifting goals like that. Who is in charge of development?
Team selection has also been ordinary.
Cloke needs to go end of the year. He will pop up with a game here or there, but we need to develop the forward line without him.
Can't help but think the club has been far too patient now. I thought Bucks would have the boys at least firing in the second half of the season. We need a fresh, exciting coaching team for 2017, rather than the stale, uninspiring group we have at present. It's not going to happen by recruiting a player or two. We have seen that. We need to get that spring back into the club. We need the kids to play for the coach.
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Yep, last week Port did it to North, 2 weeks ago we did it GWS.
So the obvious question is why can a team do it one week and not the next, clearly it is not their ability because they have proved they can do it, so the only remaining explanation is IMV 'mental toughness'
