Pre Season Draft Discussion

[Merv]

This thread will stay stickied until the completion of the Pre Season Draft on the 11th of December

It is for all discussion related to the Pre Season Draft, not the National Draft or Rookie Draft.

Please stay on topic

Wednesday Oct 31 (2pm)
List Lodgement One, including rookie promotions, retained second year rookies and father / son selections

Wednesday Nov 14 (2pm)
Draft Nominations Close

Friday Nov 16 (2pm)
List Lodgement Two

Wednesday Nov 21 (2pm)
Delisted Player Nominations Close

Saturday Nov 24 (10am)
NAB AFL Draft Selection Meeting

Tuesday Nov 27 (2pm)
Uncontracted Listed Player Nominations Close

Friday Nov 30 (2pm)
List Lodgement Three and TPP Estimates

Friday Dec 7 (2pm)
Delisted Player Nominations Close

Tuesday Dec 11 (10am)
NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft Selection Meeting

Tuesday Dec 11 (10.15am)
Nomination of Brisbane Lions and Sydney eligible rookie list players

Tuesday Dec 11 (10.30am)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft Selection Meeting

 

[The Donners]

This thread will stay stickied until the completion of the Pre Season Draft on the 31st of December

It is for all discussion related to the Pre Season Draft, not the National Draft or Rookie Draft.

Please stay on topic

Wednesday Oct 31 (2pm)
List Lodgement One, including rookie promotions, retained second year rookies and father / son selections

Wednesday Nov 14 (2pm)
Draft Nominations Close

Friday Nov 16 (2pm)
List Lodgement Two

Wednesday Nov 21 (2pm)
Delisted Player Nominations Close

Saturday Nov 24 (10am)
NAB AFL Draft Selection Meeting

Tuesday Nov 27 (2pm)
Uncontracted Listed Player Nominations Close

Friday Nov 30 (2pm)
List Lodgement Three and TPP Estimates

Friday Dec 7 (2pm)
Delisted Player Nominations Close

Tuesday Dec 11 (10am)
NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft Selection Meeting

Tuesday Dec 11 (10.15am)
Nomination of Brisbane Lions and Sydney eligible rookie list players

Tuesday Dec 11 (10.30am)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft Selection Meeting

When is the final date at which a club can delist a player Merv?

 

[The Donners]

Would there be much interest from the Bombers for Darren Pfeifer or the forgotten ex-Adelaide midfielder Haydn Skipworth?

Brennan would be the obvious choice for PSD selection but if that isn't achievable (as he hasn't nominated and Bulldogs have the pick before us) we could do with a midfielder, Skipworth would be 25?

I haven't seen anything of Pfeifer, can someone tell me something about him?

 

[High Ryder]

Brisbane Lion a man in demand
Stephen Rielly and Jake Niall | October 13, 2007

AN UNUSUALLY fruitful trade period in which 20 players changed clubs, against only nine last year, ended yesterday but not for Brisbane Lions' Jared Brennan, who immediately became the most sought-after pre-season draft target.

While Essendon has made the running on the uncontracted Brisbane 23-year-old, three of the four clubs ahead of it in the pre-season draft order — Richmond, Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs — all indicated last night their interest in pursuing him.

Sensing the chase to come, the Lions put a revised three-year offer to Brennan after the 2pm close of trading yesterday but not before the Dons reiterated their intent to lure him south with a three-year contract understood to be worth more than $900,000.

Melbourne and Richmond also either contacted Brennan's agent, Peter Whitehead, or said they intended to.

Whitehead said the revised Lions' offer had not been agreed to and that Brennan wanted to assess "all of his options".

"Since the close of the trading today, the Lions have made another offer to him but no agreement has been reached and at this point in time he's considering his options," Whitehead said.

"At this stage, nothing's been decided. He's keeping all of his options open. He doesn't feel under pressure to make a decision and at the end of the day he'll do what's best for his football and for the future of his young family."

Whitehead said that while Brennan had recently been in Darwin and had not attended the Lions' best-and-fairest count last week, he denied that the gifted but erratic player had walked out on the club.

"He's back from Darwin and although there's been speculation about him disappearing on the club, it hasn't got to that. He hasn't severed contact with Brisbane," said Whitehead, who added that Brennan was not concerned by the idea of a shift south.

"The pre-season (draft) is very much one of his options. He's open to the idea of going to Melbourne. I've spoken with Essendon a few times today. They are obviously an option. Very much an option. But Jared has to come to a decision first."

If the Dons pick Brennan up in the pre-season draft, they stand to lose one of their own, Kepler Bradley, the same way.

After a deal between Fremantle and Essendon, involving Bradley and pick 55 in exchange for Fremantle's pick 40, collapsed just before the 2pm deadline Bradley's agent Colin Young suggested that the 21-year-old might still return home to Western Australia and get to the Dockers for nothing.
Young spent the afternoon with Bradley, canvassing his options, and later said he expected to talk with Essendon and Fremantle in the next 72 hours. Failed negotiations between the clubs culminated in an angry stand-off, with former Essendon player and present Fremantle coach Mark Harvey expressing his displeasure with his former colleagues.

Richmond, holder of first choice in the pre-season draft, indicated that Brennan and Collingwood ruckman Guy Richards were on its radar.

While the acquisitions of Jordan McMahon and Mitch Morton and retention of Jay Schulz on a contract for next year that is said to guarantee the former South Australian $275,000 led rival clubs to question whether the Tigers could afford Brennan, Richmond director of football Greg Miller insisted that they had the room to accommodate him.

Miller said the Tigers had sufficient room to recruit Chris Judd and therefore would not have any troubling in signing Brennan. He called Brennan and Richards "a good starting position" for pick one in the pre-season draft.

Schulz had seemed destined for Port Adelaide. He agreed to join the grand finalist after visiting Alberton mid-week but Miller said the club had considered Port's offer of pick 28 "unacceptable". It is believed Richmond wanted pick 18 exchanged for Port's 16.

Melbourne also confirmed last night that it would be interested in Brennan as a pre-season draft pick. The Demons have third pick behind Richmond and Carlton.

Carlton is another possible suitor for Brennan, although the Blues will wait to see who is available.

"We have space available in the pre-season for a very good player and we'll wait and see who's going to be available," said Carlton football manager Steven Icke.

Sydney's Jude Bolton is out of contract, having been up for trade at the right price, as is Geelong's Kane Tenace, who could appeal as a pre-season draft target if he decides to leave the Cats, who shed players yesterday in a remarkable post-premiership fire sale.

Former captain and premiership ruckman Steven King was donated to St Kilda, along with Charlie Gardiner, for the unusable pick 90 as salary cap pressures bit. Henry Playfair and Tim Callan also were sacrificed.

The unusually high number of transactions was the result of rule changes that have given clubs the option of discarding picks they acquire in trades.

A number of players, who would otherwise have ended up in the draft, were traded for inconsequential picks, including Collingwood's Ben Davies to the Kangaroos for pick 96.

One who wasn't able to move was Collingwood's Rhyce Shaw. After a move to Brisbane was scuttled by a contractual impasse, Shaw, who is contracted for two more seasons, was offered without success to several clubs yesterday, including Carlton and the Kangaroos

 

[Schmick]

I really doubt Brennan will be available at our pick. So i think we should just go for Darren Pfeiffer; "A courageous defender, Pfeiffer is a strong mark, while he possesses a terrific vertical jump, as witnessed at the Draft Camp, when he achieved a standing leap of 72cm." Runs 20m in 2.99 secs, Beep test 14.1 and has "Has enormous flair and sublime skills", and is only 20yo.

I'd really like us to go after him, he seems like he has all the attributes to become a good player. A quick sprint time and a huge vertical leap, i wouldn't mind seeing him in the back pocket for us, and push into the middle now and again. I really don't know why they delisted him, he'd only been on the list 2 years and had quite a few injuries, even the Crows members can't believe it.

 

[Merv]

When is the final date at which a club can delist a player Merv?

I'm not positive but i think it's October 31

 

[Merv]

I really doubt Brennan will be available at our pick. So i think we should just go for Darren Pfeiffer; "A courageous defender, Pfeiffer is a strong mark, while he possesses a terrific vertical jump, as witnessed at the Draft Camp, when he achieved a standing leap of 72cm." Runs 20m in 2.99 secs, Beep test 14.1 and has "Has enormous flair and sublime skills", and is only 20yo.

I'd really like us to go after him, he seems like he has all the attributes to become a good player. A quick sprint time and a huge vertical leap, i wouldn't mind seeing him in the back pocket for us, and push into the middle now and again. I really don't know why they delisted him, he'd only been on the list 2 years and had quite a few injuries, even the Crows members can't believe it.

Don't get too disheartened yet.

Every year, players bob up from nowhere as being unhappy with the contract they are being offered by their current club.

Usually this is on the back of offers from rival clubs with room in their cap.

I would be suprised if Brennan was the best player in the PSD.

 

[The Donners]

What about Skipworth? Although Essendon shouldn't be perhaps going after washed up players, at 25 and virtually a season out of football (through injury) he may be a smokey. I heard he stared in his 2 games for Bendigo Bombers before his season ending injury.

Too old to look at? Not to say we have a youth policy. It's the age group we're missing on the list, McPhee for memory is one of the only 24-25 year olds we have on the list.

 

[Schmick]

Don't get too disheartened yet.

Every year, players bob up from nowhere as being unhappy with the contract they are being offered by their current club.

Usually this is on the back of offers from rival clubs with room in their cap.

I would be suprised if Brennan was the best player in the PSD.

Who else is there that is out of contract that are looking to move on?

Also, if it came down to Brennan and Pfeiffer, i really wouldn't mind who picked because we need a player like Pfeiffer more IMO, heaps of room for development and would come much cheaper than Brennan.

 

[The Donners]

Who else is there that is out of contract that are looking to move on?

Also, if it came down to Brennan and Pfeiffer, i really wouldn't mind who picked because we need a player like Pfeiffer more IMO, heaps of room for development and would come much cheaper than Brennan.

We will struggle to make minimum TPP IMO. I believe Lloyd will be on veteran's list... can someone confirm that?

Either way, Lucas would be eligable and I think Fletcher already is.

 

[SM10]

I think we should get Brennan to demand a 3 year deal worth $700,000 in the first year that would go down in the next 2 years, surely the other clubs wouldn't be willing to pay him that ATM

 

[hulld]

Who else is there that is out of contract that are looking to move on?

nobody knows who will be out of contract. there would be plenty of players who would be in negotiations with their club at the moment. from now to november plenty of things can happen.

just look at the names who were being thrown around this past week who weren't traded. do you think that jude bolton would be happy that his team tried to trade him????????

 

[jetta2davey]

with the depth in this PSD ( Richards, Bolton, Pfeiffer, Bradley, Perrie, MJ, Whitnall, Tenace, Mcgrath, possibly buchanan and Fraser etc) it will make it much easier to secure Brennan because other clubs will be wary of the money and the fact that he wants to be at Essendon, so will opt for the low risk/money option and go for another player.

 

[SM10]

with the depth in this PSD ( Richards, Bolton, Pfeiffer, Bradley, Perrie, MJ, Whitnall, Tenace, Mcgrath, possibly buchanan and Fraser etc) it will make it much easier to secure Brennan because other clubs will be wary of the money and the fact that he wants to be at Essendon, so will opt for the low risk/money option and go for another player.

Lets hope so mate

 

[The Donners]

nobody knows who will be out of contract. there would be plenty of players who would be in negotiations with their club at the moment. from now to november plenty of things can happen.

just look at the names who were being thrown around this past week who weren't traded. do you think that jude bolton would be happy that his team tried to trade him????????

Actually Bolton wasn't against it all. I have a feeling his mother lives in Melbourne as well so there's a family connection. Also I think Sydney realise that there needs to be a change, who else on the Sydney list would have value that Bolton would have? As for the PSD, I doubt he'll be in that because Sydney wouldn't obviously get anything.

 

[The Donners]

with the depth in this PSD ( Richards, Bolton, Pfeiffer, Bradley, Perrie, MJ, Whitnall, Tenace, Mcgrath, possibly buchanan and Fraser etc) it will make it much easier to secure Brennan because other clubs will be wary of the money and the fact that he wants to be at Essendon, so will opt for the low risk/money option and go for another player.

I highly doubt Buchanan and Fraser will be in the PSD. Would love either though!

 

[Jimmy Gwilt]

Fergus Watts - Possible Don Recruit

Would be a good move to get him with a late pick in the draft especially if we get rid of kepler ??

 

[Schmick]

Re: Fergus Watts - Possible Don Recruit

Would be a good move to get him with a late pick in the draft especially if we get rid of kepler ??

No thanx, don't know why we would want or need him. Pfeiffer's the way to go.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Re: Fergus Watts - Possible Don Recruit

No thanks. Next.

 

[DonMania#5]

Re: Fergus Watts - Possible Don Recruit

No way, dud.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Re: Fergus Watts - Possible Don Recruit

No way, dud.

Ditto, pretty ordinary player imo

 

[The Donners]

Re: Fergus Watts - Possible Don Recruit

Essendon are past drafting has-been/never-will-be players... hence no Sheedy!

 

[Mighty_bombers]

Re: Fergus Watts - Possible Don Recruit

Would be a good move to get him with a late pick in the draft especially if we get rid of kepler ??

man we tryin to get rid of sh1t players not bring in new sh1t players

how good was it to see fatty cole gone YAY .......

 

[GoDons]

Re: Fergus Watts - Possible Don Recruit

I don't mind him that much as a player, I think he's got something to offer if he can be played from the square.

Essendon aren't going to be able to do that and, as such, he shouldn't be looked at for a spot on the senior list.

 

[greenlight]

Re: Fergus Watts - Possible Don Recruit

Would be a good move to get him with a late pick in the draft especially if we get rid of kepler ??

why would you want him...with a midfield like dalsanto,hayes,ball. he couldnt get a game why would we want him....hes crap...