Training Pre season training

[saintmike65]

Hey fellas. Just watched James Van Es train with us today, looked in pretty good nick. Just after some thoughts on his game and what he did/didn’t show at the Saints? I know he spent the last 18 months with an ankle injury which doesn’t make it easy to comment but any thoughts on what he showed/didn’t show initially would be appreciated.

Hope you blokes stay injury free during the preseason, Boxshall is a ripper and Travaglia was my favourite player in the draft, you did very well.

JVE is a good size but I found him to be a bit slow & fairly limited in his ability in the air…he may be just a lockdown defender but he’s only young so hard to say if he’s got a future at senior level

 

[saintmike65]

If it makes you feel any better he did a two hour session, the first hour of which was warm up and the beep test. Don’t think we’re hailing him as a medical marvel just yet. Missed a couple of kicks too.

His foot skills aren’t great!

 

[eaglevision]

JVE is a good size but I found him to be a bit slow & fairly limited in his ability in the air…he may be just a lockdown defender but he’s only young so hard to say if he’s got a future at senior level

Ran a 2.91s 20m that’s outstanding, especially for a big man. Pretty useless if you can’t use it on the field though.

 

[Leap of Faith]

Hey fellas. Just watched James Van Es train with us today, looked in pretty good nick. Just after some thoughts on his game and what he did/didn’t show at the Saints? I know he spent the last 18 months with an ankle injury which doesn’t make it easy to comment but any thoughts on what he showed/didn’t show initially would be appreciated.

Hope you blokes stay injury free during the preseason, Boxshall is a ripper and Travaglia was my favourite player in the draft, you did very well.

What to do when a fan of the Eagles, whom I loathe ardently, comes on here so polite and reasonable?

 

[BrutThough]

Anyone know if we are training tomorrow?

 

[Saint Ray]

Has pote

What to do when a fan of the Eagles, whom I loathe ardently, comes on here so polite and reasonable?

Yeah. I know. Started to reply to him then thought better of it.

 

[dudeintheswamp]

The fact he and Darcy have become training buddies is very exciting.

Missed this tasty little morsel. Have they been training together over the break or something?

 

[akaifu]

Missed this tasty little morsel. Have they been training together over the break or something?

There was a day in the life of Wilson training and Hugo was alongside him every step of the way (except the running, no one can keep up with him in that)

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

There was a day in the life of Wilson training and Hugo was alongside him every step of the way (except the running, no one can keep up with him in that)

speak for yourself mate

 

[Cairnsman]

Has pote

Yeah. I know. Started to reply to him then thought better of it.

I think he was looking to talk footy anyway Stinger

 

[LuckyBounce!]

What to do when a fan of the Eagles, whom I loathe ardently, comes on here so polite and reasonable?

I was going to wish them well for the season then I remembered who the club was and stopped short!

 

[eaglevision]

Cheers for the JVE feedback, even to the posters that think I’m a shit bloke because I support West Coast. Will be keeping a close eye on Tobie and Hugh, big fan of Jimmy Barrat too. Go well and someone remind the boys not to have a slash in public.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Cheers for the JVE feedback, even to the posters that think I’m a shit bloke because I support West Coast. Will be keeping a close eye on Tobie and Hugh, big fan of Jimmy Barrat too. Go well and someone remind the boys not to have a slash in public.

He was unlucky with his ankle, which he had pinned then had troubles and had the pins removed. Then by the time he got going he was delisted.

Our list had been bogged down by players stymied by injuries so he paid the price. I thought he had something to offer, but we have been desparate for a young KPD for sometime.

Having said the above Barrat is definitely a significant upgrade.

 

[austinnn]

Given Trav and Windy didnt run the first one, the big improver there is Byrnes.

Good to see him keep pushing to improve.

Reckon Byrnes is the modern day Geary, gives absolutely everything to the team, will probably end up captain at some stage

 

[eaglevision]

He was unlucky with his ankle, which he had pinned then had troubles and had the pins removed. Then by the time he got going he was delisted.

Our list had been bogged down by players stymied by injuries so he paid the price. I thought he had something to offer, but we have been desparate for a young KPD for sometime.

Having said the above Barrat is definitely a significant upgrade.

Wasn’t going to add anything else but is the view of the majority of the board that he was delisted too early, especially for a KPD?

 

[Michael Goodinski]

His foot skills aren’t great!

Can't run to the required RTB standard. The chronic ankle problem didn't help. Had the mobility of a cigar store Indian.

 

[akaifu]

Wasn’t going to add anything else but is the view of the majority of the board that he was delisted too early, especially for a KPD?

I think a lot of people were surprised when he was delisted. Most fans I had convos with prior to it including me were of the view that he was either deserving of another year or he'd be extremely stiff to be delisted

In the end, he is one of the victims of our brutal list turnover

For a team like West Coast that lacks quality and can afford to take on some recycled players especially with Barrass leaving and Gov close to the end, I think its well worth the punt as long as he stays fully fit over this pre-season and has shed some kgs

 

[Nutsngum]

Wasn’t going to add anything else but is the view of the majority of the board that he was delisted too early, especially for a KPD?

His ankle is going to be long term cooked from a high performance point of view. This is going to be fine for a lock down defender but Lyon and Enright want a running game plan and he just wont be able to provide that as much as is required.

Just my theory anyway.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Wasn’t going to add anything else but is the view of the majority of the board that he was delisted too early, especially for a KPD?

Probably. He wasn't even on our radar for delisting so it was a surprise to all. We can only speculate the club believed his ankle was shot, but by the same token he didn't necessarily demonstrate enough to survive the hard cull.
As others have said, Barrat is definitely a better footballer so the ends have justified it for us.
I think everyone would wish JVE well though. If he gets back, he'll have earned it.

 

[ghostbat12]

Good to hear positives.

 

[BarkerFan]

Reckon Byrnes is the modern day Geary, gives absolutely everything to the team, will probably end up captain at some stage

I would be trying Byrnes down back as a successor to Webster. I recon he can do that job and also be involved in our run out of defence,.

 

[BrutThough]

Wasn’t going to add anything else but is the view of the majority of the board that he was delisted too early, especially for a KPD?

On one hand, maybe since it's hard for a KPD to show their worth in only two seasons. But on the other, it's reasonable to delist someone who just hasn't been able to get on the park. He barely played and barely trained so to have any genuine assessment on him during his time in the AFL is just guess work.

 

[saintmike65]

Can't run to the required RTB standard. The chronic ankle problem didn't help. Had the mobility of a cigar store Indian.

Agree…now have a huge upgrade with both Tauru and Barrett

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Reckon Byrnes is the modern day Geary, gives absolutely everything to the team, will probably end up captain at some stage

 

[beside the seaside]

Agree…now have a huge upgrade with both Tauru and Barrett

We need to see those players get a game first before we call them an upgrade. Not that long ago JVE was a highly rated draft pick.