Prospective coaches unhappy with "Richo" ultimatum

[thecotch]

From Richo on radio this morning:



To me that indicates quite clearly that if Richo is asked to step aside for the good of the team he would have no hesitation in doing just that. If he disn't then it would be fairly hypocritical of him.

Why should it take someone to tap him on the shoulder RT? Richo's time is up. Age has caught up with him. It's time. He needs to go out now.

 

[Kapital city TIGER]

praps medicos could have some input?

I dont think he should go just because he might break - anyone might break.
another year or 6 will be great from Richo.
footy will be shit without Richo

Id much rather Richo playing 2/3 of a season and giving occasional exposureto a promising kids development, than losing him prematurely to create a full time spot for some hack that managed to run the length of punt road without falling over and took 5 marks in year 10 playing on the fat kid.

(I acknowledge that I may be slightly overly sentimental about this, see above)
The fact is that there is noone else stepping up to be club champ. (Except Kingy that is!)

 

[Madtiger2006]

Richo is 1 player on a list of 42. A quality player who would help the club on and off the field. He plays on the wing. If he only plays 1 year and then retires, what harm is it doing a club who will delist 10 players long before him. If someone didn't take the job for something as minor as this then they obviously don't want the job that badly and should not be given the job either

 

[_RT_]

Why should it take someone to tap him on the shoulder RT? Richo's time is up. Age has caught up with him. It's time. He needs to go out now.

Been saying he should got for 2 years now, this time its more than justified.

 

[_Wang_]

Awesome thread for the 'Richo haters' to vent there spleen... in the thinly veiled guise of the old favourite "for the good of the club"

 

[Danog]

If his career is done, at least he got his 800th. If he goes, it'd be a tragedy that he didn't have a farewell game...

 

[_RT_]

Awesome thread for the 'Richo haters' to vent there spleen... in the thinly veiled guise of the old favourite "for the good of the club"

Said it before, I don't hate Richo.

 

[Barnzy]

Said it before, I don't hate Richo.

The old Richmond supporter mentality. If you don't want Richo to go on until he's 50 then you must hate him.

 

[astro_toby]

what a load off bullocks

Why do people come one here constantly trying to act as if they know something no one else does, but " i can't tell you why :

LMAO

Why would any new coach not want richo on the list? We can EASILY clear up to 10 spots this season without raising a sweat.

Every player on the list talks about how much they all want to play with richo. Every player say Richo inspires them, every player, supporter, member and football lover wants richo to play on.

HE WAS A RUNNER UP IN THE BROWNLOW LAST YEAR!!

why on earth would a new coach want to be seen as kicking this bloke OUT of the club - when everyone who loves and associates with this club - wants him there?

rubbish thread - opening post is just another pathetic attention seeking whore

 

[YellowandBlackBlood]

I must clarify that it is NOT Richo who is holding the club to ransom. There are powerbrokers within the club that have made this decision. It has nothing to do with the great man.

Again, I cannot categorically say that these rumours are fact. The sources work at the club and "hear" things. I trust that they pass on what they hear unaltered. This doesn't mean that what they hear is fact. I was just disturbed that a prospective coach would be compromised at his job BEFORE day one.

 

[astro_toby]

I must clarify that it is NOT Richo who is holding the club to ransom. There are powerbrokers within the club that have made this decision. It has nothing to do with the great man.

Again, I cannot categorically say that these rumours are fact. The sources work at the club and "hear" things. I trust that they pass on what they hear unaltered. This doesn't mean that what they hear is fact. I was just disturbed that a prospective coach would be compromised at his job BEFORE day one.

everyone here reckons they know someone who works at the club - i bet the bloke you know is a shitter cleaner who would know jack shit about what is happening.

i actually bet you don't even know this bloke at all

why does anyone believe any of the random shit that gets posted here by anyone who claims to "know someone who works at club"

 

[YellowandBlackBlood]

what a load off bullocks

Why do people come one here constantly trying to act as if they know something no one else does, but " i can't tell you why :

LMAO

Why would any new coach not want richo on the list? We can EASILY clear up to 10 spots this season without raising a sweat.

Every player on the list talks about how much they all want to play with richo. Every player say Richo inspires them, every player, supporter, member and football lover wants richo to play on.

HE WAS A RUNNER UP IN THE BROWNLOW LAST YEAR!!

why on earth would a new coach want to be seen as kicking this bloke OUT of the club - when everyone who loves and associates with this club - wants him there?

rubbish thread - opening post is just another pathetic attention seeking whore

There is no need to resort to personal attacks. If you don't like the thread, don't read it. I love the club and have been a member for many many years. I want it to succeed. I have friends at the club. If you wish me never to pass on information I hear, then I wont.

Isn't this what makes BF a place to visit?

 

[astro_toby]

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There is no need to resort to personal attacks. If you don't like the thread, don't read it. I love the club and have been a member for many many years. I want it to succeed. I have friends at the club. If you wish me never to pass on information I hear, then I wont.

Isn't this what makes BF a place to visit?

you think people come to big footy to read the bullshit you make up?

its utter rubbish mate - so sick of the usual attention whores who wonder in and out with scenario's that are just fiction and act as if a little fairy told them.

you have so many "outs" in your story -its so fall of shit.

 

[Barnzy]

Someone's had a bad day.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

It is possible that a certain coaching applicant who wishes to remain high on North's list, should he not get ours, have an excuse why he didn't get our job, ie " They wanted Richo I said he had to go and I wanted to rebuild".
It is also possible that the same applicant contacted the club last week wanting to know the clubs position about the " Richo signed for 2010 " media speculation last week, inwhich the club replied " It will be discussed and left the option of the succesfull apllicant and Mathew ".

 

[YellowandBlackBlood]

you think people come to big footy to read the bullshit you make up?

its utter rubbish mate - so sick of the usual attention whores who wonder in and out with scenario's that are just fiction and act as if a little fairy told them.

you have so many "outs" in your story -its so fall of shit.

They certainly don't come to read your colourful language.

 

[_RT_]

you think people come to big footy to read the bullshit you make up?

its utter rubbish mate - so sick of the usual attention whores who wonder in and out with scenario's that are just fiction and act as if a little fairy told them.

you have so many "outs" in your story -its so fall of shit.

So there is no possible way that some anonymous poster who has nothing to gain from posting what they may have heard is actually telling the truth?

Instead of rubbishing him, perhaps you should be thankful that they have taken the time to share some possible inside info regarding the process.

 

[richoatthedisco]

Richo should have won the Brownlow last year and RT is proud he's been calling for his head for two years? Such awful judgement is something to brag about??

I know for a fact (because his girlfriend told me) that a certain essendon player was in the birdcage at the races last year with a heap of stars and celebs of all sorts, but was only starstruck by one person. "Oh my God," he whispered to his girl. "It's... it's Richo!"

If he is forced out surely Footscray would knock on his door before they called Barry Hall's parole officer.

 

[nut]

Any prospective coach that would prefer a Rookie selection v Richo can coach else where, because thats all he would cost 1 rookie selection because he is on the veterans list.

 

[_RT_]

Richo should have won the Brownlow last year and RT is proud he's been calling for his head for two years? Such awful judgement is something to brag about??

I know for a fact (because his girlfriend told me) that a certain essendon player was in the birdcage at the races last year with a heap of stars and celebs of all sorts, but was only starstruck by one person. "Oh my God," he whispered to his girl. "It's... it's Richo!"

If he is forced out surely Footscray would knock on his door before they called Barry Hall's parole officer.

Yep he could have won the Brownlow last year and it was a great achievement, albeit, 12 months ago.

12 months later and Richo has played 6 games for the season after finally succumbing to an injury he had been carrying for the previous 12 months. Then while attempting his comeback he managed to get through barely 10 minutes of footy before he had to come off the ground to stop himself reinjuring the hamstring again.

Now considering that his body isn't letting him do what his mind wants him to do when he wants to do it, I would rather Richo go out now, where he'll be remembered as the bloke who nearly won a Brownlow at 33 and until a rather serious injury was still seen as one of the premier footballers in the comp.

Would you prefer that type of ending for a legend or would you prefer the type of ending where the legend pushes on for one last go around and then ends up spending the whole season in the medical room rather than on the ground? Because I can quite honestly see this happening to Richo if he does push on, the signs are there, just hope the Richo listens to what his body is trying to tell him.

 

[Ancient Tiger]

I am more disturbed by the principle that a football administration would be interfering with matters that do not concern them.

Surely a new coach would be given full command of the list. We cannot afford to have a puppet at the head of the football team. I don't care if it's Richo or a rookie. He will live and die by his decisions. Surely then he should be given complete control of his own destiny.

 

[Ancient Tiger]

And specifically with Richo, surely the medicos would be the ones that determine whether he can stand the rigours of another preseason/football year. If he is, the new coach would have the last word, not the president or anyone else. The new coach will have to decide whether playing a club champion at the age of 35 will add anything to the future of the club or whether he will feel that he may take the position of another forward (it is highly doubtful that with his hammy, he will be able to play on the wing).

If deemed that he cannot stand another season, the decision is easy.

 

[Rayzorwire]

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There is no need to resort to personal attacks. If you don't like the thread, don't read it. I love the club and have been a member for many many years. I want it to succeed. I have friends at the club. If you wish me never to pass on information I hear, then I wont.

Isn't this what makes BF a place to visit?

You've added a lot of good insight and info over the years Y&BB, just ignore Astro Boy (he's prone to these kind of unnecessary outbursts towards people who don't deserve it...I'd have thought he'd be on cloud nine after his "other team" Carlton won on the weekend!).

Please keep posting any insight you feel is worth passing on mate, always enjoyed your input and I know a lot of others do too.

As to the topic at hand, I'm with Bo on this...it's hardly asking too much to give the coach exactly what he wants and needs - except the one off-limits decision regarding Richo playing on for just one more year.

Matter of fact, I'd seriously have to question the intelligence and club knowledge of any candidate who would start their coaching career at Richmond by refusing to let Richo play on.

It'd be a new twist on an old tale (tail?)...becoming the most hated Richmond coach ever BEFORE they've coached a single game.

Not to mention a great way to start next year in the media when rd.1 the incoming coach is pelted with every foul substance known to man on his way down the race...then we lose to Carlton...80% of Richmond fans around the country melt the switchboards of any radio station brave enough to raise the subject...and the board is forced to call an emergency crisis meeting the day after the first game of the year and reappoint Rawlings as caretaker again before someone burns the place to the ground.

If it is indeed Hardwick who's raising strong objections, he's gone way beyond bravery and deep into the land of fools. Not only would he not survive his first year of senior coaching, but if he does that OR misses a senior coaching role with us or North (where he's by no means a sure thing) this time around, he only further reinforces the perception that he's damaged goods nobody else wants.

He could very well harm his own career greatly by playing hardball on Richo's...all for the sake of giving a chance to one champion player for one season.

No doubt he would have felt the same about getting Cousins...and he would have been wrong about that too.

 

[mhill]

I am more disturbed by the principle that a football administration would be interfering with matters that do not concern them.

Surely a new coach would be given full command of the list. We cannot afford to have a puppet at the head of the football team. I don't care if it's Richo or a rookie. He will live and die by his decisions. Surely then he should be given complete control of his own destiny.

So I'll take it that 12 months ago when the club decided that Craig Cameron as "List Manager" was to have final say on the club's list you had a problem back then too.

I'll also assume that the Hawk model where Chris Pelchen has control over list management is also flawed despite it delivering them a flag.

The coach has a say, the list manager has the final say, we made that call last year - it made sense then and it continues to do so.

And RT, sorry I don't buy it - you are the type of supporter that would've wanted to trade Richo until he was too old to trade and then you moved to retiring him.

The coach is not the silver bullet d1ckheads, stop waiting for the messiah.

 

[_RT_]

I would actually admire a rookie coach who had the balls to make his first decision one that cuts one of the the legends of the club. Would send a clear message to group, the club and the supporters that he intends on doing things the way they want to and wont be dictated to by anyone.

It was part of the reason Clarkson got the respect of the players, staff and supporters at Hawthorn, he went in and made tough decisions that let the players know who was in charge and those that didn't want to come along for the ride were free to leave which a few opted to do. Granted none of the Hawks were in the same league as Richo, but it does set the ground rules right from the start, that no-one is above what is best for the club and as much as it pains some supporters its time they acknowledged what Richo himself has said and that is that he is no bigger than the club.