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Prospective coaches unhappy with "Richo" ultimatum
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Move Richo on ... keep Polak ?
Move Richo on ... keep Pettifer ?
Move Richo on ... keep Coghlan ?
Move Richo on ... keep JON ?
Move Richo on ... keep Schulz ?
Move Richo on ... keep Bowden ?
Move Richo on ... keep Johnson ?
Move Richo on ... keep Raines ?
Move Richo on ... keep Hughes ?
give me a solid case for keeping anyone of those nine players before him and then i will say OK .. time to go ... but until then , if anyone can tell me how we can offload more than 10 players in one hit i am all ears .
You could easily add a couple more to that list.
Forget sentiment ... its logitics . He is good enough to play over at least half our list with one hand tied behind his back .
I don`t see how how holding onto this player for one more year is going to hamstring our development ... and lets face it , the marketing dept. is going to need a "Richo farewell tour" next year , and if you don`t think it has its importance then you are in denial
Move Richo on ... keep Pettifer ?
Move Richo on ... keep Coghlan ?
Move Richo on ... keep JON ?
Move Richo on ... keep Schulz ?
Move Richo on ... keep Bowden ?
Move Richo on ... keep Johnson ?
Move Richo on ... keep Raines ?
Move Richo on ... keep Hughes ?
give me a solid case for keeping anyone of those nine players before him and then i will say OK .. time to go ... but until then , if anyone can tell me how we can offload more than 10 players in one hit i am all ears .
You could easily add a couple more to that list.
Forget sentiment ... its logitics . He is good enough to play over at least half our list with one hand tied behind his back .
I don`t see how how holding onto this player for one more year is going to hamstring our development ... and lets face it , the marketing dept. is going to need a "Richo farewell tour" next year , and if you don`t think it has its importance then you are in denial
People need to get a ****ing grip and remember they follow the Rich-MOND Football Club , not the the Rich-O Football club...
It's not about Richo himself.... The quoted is why
Excellent post.
Sooner or later I hope some of you anti-Richo zealots come to the realisation that #a - Richo is easilly in our best 10 if not best 5 players & #b - There is a huge amount of cutting to do at seasons end, at least 20 deserve to go before Matty does.
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I hope Richo stays on next year. He is important for the development of our younger guys. Guys like Vickery, Post, Morton and Riewoldt will all have a big advantage from playing along side Richo next year.
It's not going to harm us to keep him on next year as there is already a long list of people to go before him. I hope we keep him on next year, otherwise it's going to be another dull year at the RFC finishing in the bottom 8 agian.
It's not going to harm us to keep him on next year as there is already a long list of people to go before him. I hope we keep him on next year, otherwise it's going to be another dull year at the RFC finishing in the bottom 8 agian.
Barnzy
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WTF are you talking? Where did I say I was happy he got injured? Are you slow in the head?
You're missing the point. Non of the so-called 'Richo-Haters' are denying he isn't in out Top-10 players - when fit. What we are concerned about is basing the side around him for the last 15 years hasn't worked - we need to move in a new direction.
Peter Hudson made a comeback with the Hawks in 1977 - he kicked 110 goals. He didn't play in 1976 or1978. The Hawks won the Flag in 1976 and 1978 - they didn't win an 1977. Hudson was clearly in their top 10 players - but they were a better team without him, probably because they didn't kick everything at him.
yep, there are any number of angles you can approach this argument but this is the nuts and bolts of it , the pure COST/BENEFIT...there is simply no come back to this
that's a fairly arbitrary remark wallaby, I could contest that the coaches were NOT good enough over that period to build a side around him. Richo demonstrated over the journey he was indeed an ELITE player....shame NONE of his COACHES can say the same in their chosen field
And back to the OP. What coach would want his first season in charge to be all about Richo's farewell tour?
There's not doubt Richo will play on for the very reasons you bring up, but it says a lot about us as a club and as supporters that Richo getting a proper send off is THE most important thing about 2010. And I include myself in that criticicism.
thought I answered that fairly and squarely 80...refer above
that's a fairly arbitrary remark wallaby, I could contest that the coaches were NOT good enough over that period to build a side around him. Richo demonstrated over the journey he was indeed an ELITE player....shame NONE of his COACHES can say the same in their chosen field
agreed.
every team double or triple teamed Richo, and we kept kicking it to him
For YEARS! Possibly because noone wanted to give it to Rory / Pets / Schultz/ whoever else was hanging around the forward line getting in Richo's way. But how long did it take before he got moved into another role - its amazing. Dont remember a single suggestion from the footy media speculating on the potential for a mobile tall Richo at any time, either (although that may be because I scarecly read footy news) And Wallace was proclaimed some sort of supa genius for bringing it about.
Its hardly Sun Tzu out there, is it?
Im a newbie to bigfooty, were there posts about running Richo up the ground, etc for any of those years?
or was it a Richo sized blind spot shared by the entire footy world?
the side is no longer based around him and for over a year has been based on developing other forwards, with Richo plugging holes and resting deep. I wonder if next years footy cards will have
Mathew Richardson - Utility ?
I want Richo to play on next year, but you've also got to respect what the next coach wants.
As for this Richo the martyr theme you're pushing, the bloke had the ball in his hands enough times every single season he has played to kick 100 goals and never did. Sure he's never been blessed with great coaches, but he's had enough opportunities and has kicked them out of bounds on the full.
If Franklin didnt kick 100 goals last year, I doubt Hawthorn would have been a top 4 side. Look at them this season !!!
errr, I understand his goalkicking efficiency has typically been ~60% from season to season...all key forwards oscilliate around this %...to realise the wild suggestion you talked of he'd need have maintained a % near 90%...No player has ever recorded such a measure in HISTORY..Plugger was best at close to 70%...that would not have realised richo 100 goals with the exception of the '96 season
To be honest if a new coach came in and one of the first things he did was cut Richo from the list I would more than likely end up not liking the guy for a long long time.
I know Richo is getting on but really he is the kind of guy that retires when he wants to retire, not when we want him to retire.
He is easily still a top 3 player and he still feels he can play football. Let him play.
As appreciative of a new coach wanting to start fresh with the tigers, Richo is not a player that should be cut due to it. He is still very much needed in our forward line and an essential part of this team and its rebuilding phase. His work ethic is admirable and will hopefully continue to guide the youngsters to push that little bit harder.
I will be gutted if we pick up some nobody coach that makes such a harsh call like dropping Richo. Shit would hit the fan.
I know Richo is getting on but really he is the kind of guy that retires when he wants to retire, not when we want him to retire.
He is easily still a top 3 player and he still feels he can play football. Let him play.
As appreciative of a new coach wanting to start fresh with the tigers, Richo is not a player that should be cut due to it. He is still very much needed in our forward line and an essential part of this team and its rebuilding phase. His work ethic is admirable and will hopefully continue to guide the youngsters to push that little bit harder.
I will be gutted if we pick up some nobody coach that makes such a harsh call like dropping Richo. Shit would hit the fan.
Re-read the coburg thread from that day.
You were so gleeful about Richo being injured, one can only hope you had a box of tissues within reaching distance of your monitor...
Barnzy
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What a load of bullshit, that post is almost laughable.
I`m certainly not saying its the most important thing next year and i have not heard anyone else say it .
Forget the rest of the hyperbole ... forget his status ... break it down to the term i used before , logistics .
All i am saying is he is that despite his age .. he is still better than half our list and on "footballing merit" alone he can have another year ... pretty simple . You then bring his status into it and sure ... it can cloud but it does elevate .
You keep talking about ..."what it says about our club and its supporters" ... whats it say about our club if we push Richo out the door because he does not fit our immediate plans anymore and leave ... say ... a Jordy Mc Mahon on our senior list to run around Coburg most of next year? ... Or Jay schulz ... or JON ?
I know who i would prefer our puppies were running around with.
Will not draw any arguements from me there ... bang on post
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How would people feel if Richo was kept on but was not guaranteed a spot in the 22 and spent time playing for Coburg as the new coach preferred to play the kids ahead of him?
Would that be the way you want to see Richo go out?
I know that it isn't the way I would want to see a club legend go out. Don't bother saying it wont happen because it very well could happen, especially if we find ourselves at the ass end of the ladder again this time next year (which is a distinct possibility).
Would that be the way you want to see Richo go out?
I know that it isn't the way I would want to see a club legend go out. Don't bother saying it wont happen because it very well could happen, especially if we find ourselves at the ass end of the ladder again this time next year (which is a distinct possibility).
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Agreed X 2
One thing about Richo ... what you get is honesty ... should he be playing like shit and things not going his way , i suspect he would happily pull the pin and a rookie would be elevated .
No problems there .
When I first read this bit, I thought you were suggesting we kept him on as the playing coach of Coburg.
If newcoach preferrentially Burgered Richo it WOULD be a problem, would expect Richo to give up a few (3-7) games to kids, but would expect Richo to play MOST of the games where he is available and merrited. Would be happy to hear his take on it, too.
Reckon it would be a plus for the VFL and Coburg and our 2s to have Richo-Burger for a few games.
With injury concerns, would expect him to be managed carefuly and sit out a few games also - both of which will allow for senior exposure of kids- albeit we will have 1 less kid to choose from if we get to keep the Big Kid on the list.
Richo:
plays 22 (plus..u know...Finals...) - Im delighted
Plays most, and kids get a few - Im wrapped
plays about half and half -no problem, good devlpmnt
Richo breaks down after <10 games - Im distraught
Richo breaks down in the first 10mins of r1/ pre season - expect 100K at farewell match, Richo on crutches/ neckbrace/wchair /coma -Im in front row - Tiger Tragedy finally dispelled - expect Chinese to acknowledge next 3 decades as "Years of the Tigers"
Coach banishes Richo for no reason - youre sick of me calling for next newcoach!
WORST- Richo plays like sht and is an embarrasment...well, aint going to happen!
Could be sad? prepared to risk it.
Expect he will continue in a more flexible role to allow squad development to continue, whilst still being an asset to te team. The days where Richo is marked down as Full Forward every week are already over.
The thread probably tells Tiger supporters where they are at. Bomber fans treat James Hird like this? Magpies Nathan Buckley? Crows Ben Hart or Bickley?
If you think Richo is the problem, you're clutching at straws. You're as pathetic as half of our list!
If you think Richo is the problem, you're clutching at straws. You're as pathetic as half of our list!
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