I’m honestly so proud of our boys. I thought we were spectacular. Makes it a hard loss to take but I think if we keep that intensity up and have slightly better days from Bruzzy and Josh then we’re every chance to win our next two
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Clueless appraisal. Do yourself a favour and watch the replay with a focus on Howe's work.
You're potting one of our best defenders.
Oh, it's "Kreuger".
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I agree that Krueger is not the answer in defence. Unfortunately due to a lack of depth and injuries, we are stuck with Howe as the second big defender after Moore and fitting a matchup with that.
But this is far from ideal and he is getting beaten, getting bags kicked on him, slipping over at inopportune times, getting in the way of his defenders and having brain fades more and more.
My question (and seriously note joking) is I wonder if and how often Umpires get tested for drugs.
Meaning players do. Surely Umps do too.
Not saying/asking as a joke.
Wonder how we would be if we did pick up May and Lynch.
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That was us going for the win, according to Fly.
Now that I've had time to compose myself. Whilst we still have another chance it doesn't take away that yesterday hurt. All those missed opportunities in the first half I felt let us down. Umpiring was shockingly bad but what else is new with them.
The whole game gave me 2018 grandfinal vibes tbh. Were the better team all day and deserved to win only to have pinched from us in dying seconds. Never mind here's hoping we can get the job done this weekend against freo and maybe give the swannies another run for their money in a couple of weeks.
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The whole game gave me 2018 grandfinal vibes tbh. Were the better team all day and deserved to win only to have pinched from us in dying seconds. Never mind here's hoping we can get the job done this weekend against freo and maybe give the swannies another run for their money in a couple of weeks.
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Hmm
As a cats supporter I thought you guys were stiff in the end. Great game though.
I didn’t think the umpiring was that bad, but watching again I think you missed out on a few more than us.
Anyway I think you may have the game and the players to worry the swans next week.
Have at it.
(edit : Oops,. Week after you knock off Freo that is!)
I didn’t think the umpiring was that bad, but watching again I think you missed out on a few more than us.
Anyway I think you may have the game and the players to worry the swans next week.
Have at it.
(edit : Oops,. Week after you knock off Freo that is!)
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Under twilight skies at the Melbourne Cricket Ground, Collingwood led Geelong after each of the first three quarters, and were on course to clinch a victory, before poor skill execution and defensive lapses in the dying minutes allowed the Cats to inch ahead and win by 6 points in a captivating contest that had numerous lead changes throughout the game. The first term saw the Magpies jump out of the blocks early to impact the scoreboard, but did not maximise their damage with the opportunities they had up forward, which kept the Cats in the game and Collingwood's lead at quarter time was 14 points. Geelong got to work in the second term by hitting back on the scoreboard themselves and constricting Collingwood's ball movement up forward, until the Magpies found enough time and space to find Will Hoskin-Elliott, who took a mark and converted Collingwood's only goal for the second quarter after the siren, which enabled the Woods to regain the lead by 1 point at the main break. The third term saw both sides exchange majors at various stages, before the Pies closed out the quarter with a slender lead of 7 points heading into the final change. The fourth quarter became a quarter of momentum shifts, and when Jordan De Goey put Collingwood back in front with 5 minutes to play, it was highly possible that the Magpies were going to push on and close out the match with another victory, in a manner that's been achieved so often and frequently this season. However, Geelong put paid to those aspirations and dreams with the last two majors of the contest to outlast the Magpies by 6 points in a cracking final that had everything and remained thrilling until the dying moments. An opportunity missed for Collingwood to remain in Melbourne for the remainder of the 2022 Finals Series, but an opportunity is there as the vanquished seeking redemption.
Collingwood won their statistical categories from areas such as disposals by +22 (373 - 351), +33 for kicks (227 - 194), uncontested possessions were up by +44 (226 - 182), while hit-outs had an advantage of +14 (48 - 34), and clearances were won narrowly by +1 (42 - 41), with stoppage clearances also claimed by +1 (32 - 31). Tackles had a differential of +15 (85 - 70), while marks had a gap of +28 (90 - 62), with the Magpies having a buffer of +32 (81 - 49), while Marks Inside 50 were up by +4 (13 - 9), and Inside 50 were won by +3 (56 - 53). Geelong won their statistical categories from sources such as handballs by +11 (157 - 146), contested possessions were up by +21 (155 - 134), and intercept possessions had a margin of +5 (86 - 81). Geelong had an advantage of +2 from Tackles Inside 50 (12 - 10), while winning contested marks by +4 (13 - 9). Centre clearances was the only statistic (10 each) where both teams broke even.
Scott Pendlebury (34 disposals @ 65%, 318 metres gained, 15 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 7 intercept possessions, 15 kicks, 19 handballs, 2 marks, 5 tackles, 1 goal assist, 6 score involvements, 5 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances & 2 Rebound 50s) generated the bulk of the team's ball movement, put his nose in the trough countless times to feed handpasses out to his teammates, and gave great direction and leadership as usual under extreme pressure.
Josh Daicos (29 disposals @ 83%, 519 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 24 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 16 kicks, 13 handballs, 8 marks, 5 tackles, 3 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 8 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) was highly prolific on the wing, and looked to kick or handball it forward as often as possible. Josh will be annoyed he couldn't score when the game was all tied up before Geelong ended up with the match-winning goal which was kicked by Max Holmes. Josh will be eager to respond after that lamentable piece of execution, and does not let that play define his season. Only time will tell over which way that story goes.
Jordan De Goey (26 disposals @ 73%, 465 metres gained, 12 contested possessions, 14 contested possessions, 15 kicks, 11 handballs, 4 marks, 9 tackles, 1 goal assist, 7 score involvements, 8 clearances, 4 centre clearances, 4 stoppage clearances, 6 Inside 50s & 2 goals) was tremendous in the midfield and almost got Collingwood over the line by himself. De Goey won centre clearances and contested ball which gave the team greater access to the forwards to impact marking contests and scoreboard in the same motion. De Goey was equally brilliant with his ball movement to make it as fast and direct as possible.
Steele Sidebottom (23 disposals @ 56%, 474 metres gained, 13 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 10 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 10 handballs, 4 marks, 6 tackles, 5 score involvements, 3 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s & 4 Rebound 50s) accumulated his standard quota of possessions on his wing, and basically played a territory game at all costs by moving the footy forward under any level of pressure.
Jack Crisp (23 disposals @ 56%, 485 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 11 handballs, 3 marks, 5 tackles, 5 score involvements, 4 clearances, 4 stoppage clearances, 8 Inside 50s & 1 goal) won the ball often enough to be damaging, but his ball use under pressure and delivery to his team's forwards was not at a level where he could have been more effective. Crisp did have a great moment in the third term where he snapped a goal through to give the Pies back the lead at that stage of the game, then Crisp gathered the ball across the 50-metre arc and had a ping from 45 metres to kick a behind which levelled the scores.
Patrick Lipinski (18 disposals @ 83%, 256 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 8 handballs, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 3 goal assists, 6 score involvements, 3 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances & 1 goal) showed poise and composure with his ball use under pressure, and impacted scoring chains for the team in a solid outing.
Darcy Cameron (14 disposals @ 43%, 159 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 25 hit-outs, 7 kicks, 7 handballs, 3 marks, 7 tackles, 2 score involvements, 4 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 2 stoppage clearances and 3 Rebound 50s) gave his midfield opportunities to win centre clearances and showed adequate intent to tackle opponents.
John Noble (27 disposals @ 74%, 485 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 22 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 20 kicks, 7 handballs, 6 marks, 4 tackles, 2 score involvements, 5 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) gave great run and carry with steady ball use coming out of defence, and Noble wasn't afraid to push higher up the ground to conjure forward entries for his teammates.
Nick Daicos (25 disposals @ 80%, 411 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 18 uncontested possessions, 7 intercept possessions, 17 kicks, 8 handballs, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements, 2 clearances & 7 Rebound 50s) adjusted extremely well to the pressure by making his decision-making and ball use as simple as possible for the tempo of finals footy.
Darcy Moore (21 disposals @ 86%, 366 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 18 uncontested possessions, 10 intercept possessions, 15 kicks, 6 handballs, 10 marks, 2 Inside 50s & 8 Rebound 50s) played a brilliant game by blanketing Tom Hawkins and took countless intercept marks to generate rebounds and positive territory forward of the play.
Brayden Maynard (19 disposals @ 68%, 346 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 7 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 7 handballs, 7 marks, 5 tackles, 3 score involvements & 3 Rebound 50s) played with great grit and determination in his want to compete in each contest he had fought. His ball use was a bit off, but he did not let that bother him a great deal when he produces heroic efforts each week.
Jeremy Howe (16 disposals @ 88%, 253 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 6 handballs, 6 marks, 4 tackles & 4 Rebound 50s) gave the team some stability behind the ball with his marking game and his ball use was sufficiently tidy.
Beau McCreery (14 disposals @ 79%, 316 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 5 handballs, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 4 Inside 50s) won enough of the ball up forward to be a damaging and influential player, but could not parlay those efforts onto the scoreboard in an adequate manner. McCreery would also be advised to work on ball-handling skills during the week, so he is in better form against the Dockers next week.
Will Hoskin-Elliott (14 disposals @ 57%, 313 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 12 kicks, 2 handballs, 4 marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 4 tackles, 1 goal assist, 5 score involvements & 1 goal) accumulated possessions on the outside of the contest by taking marks or using his leg speed to break away from congestion. Not the best of games from Hoskin-Elliott, aside from his goal after the siren at half time.
Ash Johnson (9 disposals @ 78%, 219 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 6 marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 2 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 4 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 2 goals) was Collingwood's most dangerous forward who impacted the scoreboard immensely in the third term, but was also a bit wasteful with his blasé snap around the corner in the opening term proving to be costly.
Jamie Elliott (8 disposals @ 38%, 209 metres gained, 7 uncontested possessions, 7 kicks, 6 marks, 4 Marks Inside 50, 7 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 1 goal) was uncharacteristically wasteful in front of goal, but remained a contributor in scoring chains from his disposals throughout the game. Have your kicking boots back on next week, 'Billy'!
Collingwood's next game will be on September 10 against Fremantle at the MCG. This will be Collingwood's first ever final against the Dockers, and the stakes have never been higher nor more important than now between these two sides. The Magpies need to be cleaner and sharper with their gathering skills at ground level, get on top in the contested ball and generate clearances for the forwards to react first and quicker to each ball that comes in up forward. From there, it will be about converting scores into goals for a trip to Sydney to play the Swans.
Collingwood won their statistical categories from areas such as disposals by +22 (373 - 351), +33 for kicks (227 - 194), uncontested possessions were up by +44 (226 - 182), while hit-outs had an advantage of +14 (48 - 34), and clearances were won narrowly by +1 (42 - 41), with stoppage clearances also claimed by +1 (32 - 31). Tackles had a differential of +15 (85 - 70), while marks had a gap of +28 (90 - 62), with the Magpies having a buffer of +32 (81 - 49), while Marks Inside 50 were up by +4 (13 - 9), and Inside 50 were won by +3 (56 - 53). Geelong won their statistical categories from sources such as handballs by +11 (157 - 146), contested possessions were up by +21 (155 - 134), and intercept possessions had a margin of +5 (86 - 81). Geelong had an advantage of +2 from Tackles Inside 50 (12 - 10), while winning contested marks by +4 (13 - 9). Centre clearances was the only statistic (10 each) where both teams broke even.
Scott Pendlebury (34 disposals @ 65%, 318 metres gained, 15 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 7 intercept possessions, 15 kicks, 19 handballs, 2 marks, 5 tackles, 1 goal assist, 6 score involvements, 5 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances & 2 Rebound 50s) generated the bulk of the team's ball movement, put his nose in the trough countless times to feed handpasses out to his teammates, and gave great direction and leadership as usual under extreme pressure.
Josh Daicos (29 disposals @ 83%, 519 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 24 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 16 kicks, 13 handballs, 8 marks, 5 tackles, 3 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 8 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) was highly prolific on the wing, and looked to kick or handball it forward as often as possible. Josh will be annoyed he couldn't score when the game was all tied up before Geelong ended up with the match-winning goal which was kicked by Max Holmes. Josh will be eager to respond after that lamentable piece of execution, and does not let that play define his season. Only time will tell over which way that story goes.
Jordan De Goey (26 disposals @ 73%, 465 metres gained, 12 contested possessions, 14 contested possessions, 15 kicks, 11 handballs, 4 marks, 9 tackles, 1 goal assist, 7 score involvements, 8 clearances, 4 centre clearances, 4 stoppage clearances, 6 Inside 50s & 2 goals) was tremendous in the midfield and almost got Collingwood over the line by himself. De Goey won centre clearances and contested ball which gave the team greater access to the forwards to impact marking contests and scoreboard in the same motion. De Goey was equally brilliant with his ball movement to make it as fast and direct as possible.
Steele Sidebottom (23 disposals @ 56%, 474 metres gained, 13 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 10 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 10 handballs, 4 marks, 6 tackles, 5 score involvements, 3 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s & 4 Rebound 50s) accumulated his standard quota of possessions on his wing, and basically played a territory game at all costs by moving the footy forward under any level of pressure.
Jack Crisp (23 disposals @ 56%, 485 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 11 handballs, 3 marks, 5 tackles, 5 score involvements, 4 clearances, 4 stoppage clearances, 8 Inside 50s & 1 goal) won the ball often enough to be damaging, but his ball use under pressure and delivery to his team's forwards was not at a level where he could have been more effective. Crisp did have a great moment in the third term where he snapped a goal through to give the Pies back the lead at that stage of the game, then Crisp gathered the ball across the 50-metre arc and had a ping from 45 metres to kick a behind which levelled the scores.
Patrick Lipinski (18 disposals @ 83%, 256 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 8 handballs, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 3 goal assists, 6 score involvements, 3 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances & 1 goal) showed poise and composure with his ball use under pressure, and impacted scoring chains for the team in a solid outing.
Darcy Cameron (14 disposals @ 43%, 159 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 25 hit-outs, 7 kicks, 7 handballs, 3 marks, 7 tackles, 2 score involvements, 4 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 2 stoppage clearances and 3 Rebound 50s) gave his midfield opportunities to win centre clearances and showed adequate intent to tackle opponents.
John Noble (27 disposals @ 74%, 485 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 22 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 20 kicks, 7 handballs, 6 marks, 4 tackles, 2 score involvements, 5 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) gave great run and carry with steady ball use coming out of defence, and Noble wasn't afraid to push higher up the ground to conjure forward entries for his teammates.
Nick Daicos (25 disposals @ 80%, 411 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 18 uncontested possessions, 7 intercept possessions, 17 kicks, 8 handballs, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements, 2 clearances & 7 Rebound 50s) adjusted extremely well to the pressure by making his decision-making and ball use as simple as possible for the tempo of finals footy.
Darcy Moore (21 disposals @ 86%, 366 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 18 uncontested possessions, 10 intercept possessions, 15 kicks, 6 handballs, 10 marks, 2 Inside 50s & 8 Rebound 50s) played a brilliant game by blanketing Tom Hawkins and took countless intercept marks to generate rebounds and positive territory forward of the play.
Brayden Maynard (19 disposals @ 68%, 346 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 7 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 7 handballs, 7 marks, 5 tackles, 3 score involvements & 3 Rebound 50s) played with great grit and determination in his want to compete in each contest he had fought. His ball use was a bit off, but he did not let that bother him a great deal when he produces heroic efforts each week.
Jeremy Howe (16 disposals @ 88%, 253 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 6 handballs, 6 marks, 4 tackles & 4 Rebound 50s) gave the team some stability behind the ball with his marking game and his ball use was sufficiently tidy.
Beau McCreery (14 disposals @ 79%, 316 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 5 handballs, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 4 Inside 50s) won enough of the ball up forward to be a damaging and influential player, but could not parlay those efforts onto the scoreboard in an adequate manner. McCreery would also be advised to work on ball-handling skills during the week, so he is in better form against the Dockers next week.
Will Hoskin-Elliott (14 disposals @ 57%, 313 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 12 kicks, 2 handballs, 4 marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 4 tackles, 1 goal assist, 5 score involvements & 1 goal) accumulated possessions on the outside of the contest by taking marks or using his leg speed to break away from congestion. Not the best of games from Hoskin-Elliott, aside from his goal after the siren at half time.
Ash Johnson (9 disposals @ 78%, 219 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 6 marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 2 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 4 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 2 goals) was Collingwood's most dangerous forward who impacted the scoreboard immensely in the third term, but was also a bit wasteful with his blasé snap around the corner in the opening term proving to be costly.
Jamie Elliott (8 disposals @ 38%, 209 metres gained, 7 uncontested possessions, 7 kicks, 6 marks, 4 Marks Inside 50, 7 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 1 goal) was uncharacteristically wasteful in front of goal, but remained a contributor in scoring chains from his disposals throughout the game. Have your kicking boots back on next week, 'Billy'!
Collingwood's next game will be on September 10 against Fremantle at the MCG. This will be Collingwood's first ever final against the Dockers, and the stakes have never been higher nor more important than now between these two sides. The Magpies need to be cleaner and sharper with their gathering skills at ground level, get on top in the contested ball and generate clearances for the forwards to react first and quicker to each ball that comes in up forward. From there, it will be about converting scores into goals for a trip to Sydney to play the Swans.
Pendles huuuuuuuuuuge
Probably misses his old glasses.
I dont care about his disposal stats, i care about his ability to defend his opponent. To answer your question maybe once inside 50, for one of his goals. Cameron is less reliant on contested marking for goals.
Cameron was probably BOG in the end like he was last time he played us and carved up Howe.
Cameron is elite, but tgat still gets back to my continued concern of Howe getting matched against genuine gun forwards.
I don't want to pot him for the sake of it, I just see him as one of the current weaknesses in our structure, which means we just don't have it quite there yet.
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I have watched the game twice. Once at the ground and the replay today.
Not once did Cameron score as a direct result of a Howe error or brain fade; that didn't happen yesterday.
Cameron's mark on the lead from the Hawkins kick was undefendable (if that's the right word).
EDIT: I do wish we had another defender to man the gorillas. This would free up Howe to play a role more suited to his strengths.
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We lost to WC in the qual final in 2018. We gave a great effort in that final. reckon there could be some similarity about this finals series.
May end up meeting Cats again in the GF.
We’ll kick the last goal to snatch it this year though.
May end up meeting Cats again in the GF.
We’ll kick the last goal to snatch it this year though.
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Thought IQ had a great game
