Play Nice Random Chat Thread VII

[Val Keating]

Do any of you work? ‍♂

I’m on annual leave.

 

[DesertRoo]

Do any of you work? ‍♂

multi tasking is certainly a skill

 

[Val Keating]

The NYT are literally American propaganda

 

[Val Keating]

Fancy posting this while they’re burning Palestinians in concentration camps every single day.

 

[ferball]

They actually had private fire fighters at one stage in Cali and there was conflict between them and public fire fighters, between them and people with water, they stopped access to private water on some of the properties they were defending, didn't work with Cali ffs to stop blazes etc etc.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

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Do any of you work? ‍♂

I can work and solve the world’s problems at the same time.


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[Chadwiko]

If you’re referring to me posting accounts that you think are Russian propaganda, well I’m not exactly going to get the other side of the story if I just follow people that I agree with and live in an echo chamber like yourself.

It's not just that you post/follow accounts that are overt Russian propaganda channels.

It's that you;

a) constantly fall for easily avoidable misinformation and 'fake news'
b) you constantly refer to podcasters as reliable sources
c) you frequently post news articles and claim to report they say something that they objectively do not say

That's why I said you so frequently seem confused.

Truth be told, I love ancient history for the most part.

Cool. Do you still listen to that neo-nazi history podcaster that you previously defended?

Or do you still deny that he's a neo-nazi?

Before you started to engage in this discussion, I would ask questions about what is happening, because I know that I don’t know everything, but I have a thirst for learning as I was ignorant for most of my life

When was the last time you 'asked a question' in these threads.

Seriously. I genuinely want to know when the last time you came in here and posted something and said "I don't know about this topic, can someone give me some information"?

I can't recall you ever doing that.

Then you turned up, arrogant and patronising, talking down to people and you just bring out the worst in people.

Tbh, I hate getting sucked into your bullshit, because you are incapable of being civil, or seeing nuance, and absolutely never admit when you’re wrong.

If you don't see the hilarious juxtaposition between your first sentence here and your second sentence, then you're beyond help.

You call us bullies, but mate, have you ever wondered why it’s always you getting into arguments?

Oh, I'm fully aware of why I get into arguments with you, DR, ferball, and Bojan. It's because without fail, all of you defend Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Not one of you have ever said that the invasion was unjustified and undefendable. You all come up with different reasons and shifting goal-posts for why Russia invaded Ukraine, and none of the reasons you ever come up with boil down to "Russia is responsible".

And I call you out on it.

And you all get mad about it.

But you’re different, you’re a bit of a dick, your mannerisms just annoy everyone who tries to have a conversation with you.

Think about it, if you’re the common denominator for the bitching and arguing, maybe, just maybe can’t you see that you are the problem?

You seem to think I have heaps and heaps of people on this forum that I constantly argue with.

Nope. It's just the clique

Oh, and by the way - i'm not the only one who argues with you lot. I've watched you campaigners literally bully away other posters who dared to say Russia is responsible for the invasion of Ukraine, with some quite disgusting and feral attacks. Remember when ferball accused B4Bear of being a war criminal? Yeah, I do.

So i'm not the first one who has challenged the clique and copped abuse. The difference is that you can't bully me into not engaging anymore like you've done with multiple other posters. I'm happy to stick around and point and laugh at you guys and call out your fake news Russian propaganda BS.

 

[Val Keating]

It's not just that you post/follow accounts that are overt Russian propaganda channels.

It's that you;

a) constantly fall for easily avoidable misinformation and 'fake news'
b) you constantly refer to podcasters as reliable sources
c) you frequently post news articles and claim to report they say something that they objectively do not say

That's why I said you so frequently seem confused.



Cool. Do you still listen to that neo-nazi history podcaster that you previously defended?

Or do you still deny that he's a neo-nazi?



When was the last time you 'asked a question' in these threads.

Seriously. I genuinely want to know when the last time you came in here and posted something and said "I don't know about this topic, can someone give me some information"?

I can't recall you ever doing that.



If you don't see the hilarious juxtaposition between your first sentence here and your second sentence, then you're beyond help.



Oh, I'm fully aware of why I get into arguments with you, DR, ferball, and Bojan. It's because without fail, all of you defend Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Not one of you have ever said that the invasion was unjustified and undefendable. You all come up with different reasons and shifting goal-posts for why Russia invaded Ukraine, and none of the reasons you ever come up with boil down to "Russia is responsible".

And I call you out on it.

And you all get mad about it.



You seem to think I have heaps and heaps of people on this forum that I constantly argue with.

Nope. It's just the clique

Oh, and by the way - i'm not the only one who argues with you lot. I've watched you campaigners literally bully away other posters who dared to say Russia is responsible for the invasion of Ukraine, with some quite disgusting and feral attacks. Remember when ferball accused B4Bear of being a war criminal? Yeah, I do.

So i'm not the first one who has challenged the clique and copped abuse. The difference is that you can't bully me into not engaging anymore like you've done with multiple other posters. I'm happy to stick around and point and laugh at you guys and call out your fake news Russian propaganda BS.

You’re hopeless. I feel sorry for you.

 

[Chadwiko]

You’re hopeless. I feel sorry for you.

That's a good way to ignore the truth of the situation and pretend you've got no cause for self-reflection

I recommend people go through the pages of the original thread from nearly 3 full years ago. See if you can identify who the 'bullies' are, and figure out which of them are still posting here

Does it look like Val's claims that this thread was a big old 'kumbuya' love fest before I showed up ring true?

Play Nice - The NM Devils Chessboard thread.

Just wait until the excuses for China attacking Taiwan; they will be legion. A long time ago I made peace with the fact that all power structures have blood on their hands. No dominant power gets to where it is without doing some desperately ****ed up shit. All that most nations can do for...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[ferball]

Agreed.

I'll allow ferball to make his own arguments in full, but in summary his position boiled down to 'Ukraine voted against giving full citizenship to undocumented Roma therefore they are a racist country and therefore I don't care that Russia invaded them'.

Yep that's pretty much it Oberpförtner Wiko.

I love the way you say that and ignore me saying that if we tied our support to obvious concrete efforts to make improvements that we could measure and that military aid would be cut off if those measures weren't met then I'd support it.

 

[ferball]

Oh right. Well, yes statelessness and lack of documentation is a problem for Romani people everywhere from Turkey to Russia.

Its not just that.

Its stuff like this:

Chillingly retrograde Ukrainian court ruling justifies anti-Roma pogrom as ‘direct democracy’

The victims of anti-Roma riots in Loshchynivka and their lawyers have encountered many obstacles to justice over the last five and a half years, but the court ruling passed on 6 December 2021 is in a deeply shocking league of its own.

khpg.org

Or this:

Attacked and abandoned: Ukraine’s forgotten Roma

In a country which suffered terribly at the hands of the Nazis during World War II, pogroms against an ethnic minority have somehow become commonplace.

www.aljazeera.com

The bells in Ukraine are tolling for the Roma - Romea.cz - Everything about Roma in one place

Bloody pogroms and systematic human rights violations committed by members of state-tolerated extremist organizations against Romani encampments have

romea.cz

Those two articles mention c14/s14/sich. Worth mentioning that the Ukrainian Education minister Osken Lisovyi is a proud mentor or former mentor of that organisation. (Cue Chad saying "That's Russian propaganda.")

This is the guy who allegedly banned Russian in Ukrainian schools, even in private conversation between refugees from the war who are Ukrainian and don't support Russia but speak Russian as a first language.

 

[DesertRoo]

Hey ferbs, what is article 25, proposed in ‘19, seems like there was something happening before Russia invaded, what was it, I can’t put my finger on it thou.

New Language Requirement Raises Concerns in Ukraine

A new legal provision on the use of the Ukrainian language, part of a broader state language law, raises concerns about protection for minority languages.

www.hrw.org

 

[Chadwiko]

I love the way you say that and ignore me saying that if we tied our support to obvious concrete efforts to make improvements that we could measure and that military aid would be cut off if those measures weren't met then I'd support it.

And I love the way you ignored me telling you that you hold Ukraine to crazy standards you don't expect of any other country on earth, and you do it by hiding behind "wah wah my tax dollars".

If you had a racist neighbour that you hated, and his house caught fire, would you help him put out the fire, or would you watch his house burn out of spite, despite knowing it could spread to more innocent neighbours and then potentially spread to your own house?

 

[Chadwiko]

Hey ferbs, what is article 25, proposed in ‘19, seems like there was something happening before Russia invaded, what was it, I can’t put my finger on it thou.

New Language Requirement Raises Concerns in Ukraine

A new legal provision on the use of the Ukrainian language, part of a broader state language law, raises concerns about protection for minority languages.

www.hrw.org

Are you forgetting about Russia's 2014 invasion?

 

[ferball]

Oh, and by the way - i'm not the only one who argues with you lot. I've watched you campaigners literally bully away other posters who dared to say Russia is responsible for the invasion of Ukraine, with some quite disgusting and feral attacks. Remember when ferball accused B4Bear of being a war criminal? Yeah, I do.

Quote me calling him a war criminal you piece of shit.

 

[ferball]

For newcomers this is the comment that pissed off ole mate from NATO (in response to a comment about me not canning Putin for something he said about the Taliban murdering children or something. I dunno really what he was talking about.):

You were in an army that murdered children in Afghanistan in my name.

This is a democracy. We're all responsible for that.

Meanwhile this guy (David McBride) is facing life in prison in Australia for telling us about those murdered children.



But nah, Putin is the only bad guy here.

Then I gave him a serve where I called him "as bad as the Australian Government".

People can follow the chain of comments back if they like.

 

[Chadwiko]

Quote me calling him a war criminal you piece of shit.

I linked the thread. You and everyone else is free to read it.

You never said the words "you are a war criminal", but you threw his Army service in his face, called him a warmonger and a Nazi sympathiser, and implicitly said that the army he was a part of murdered Afghani babies.

And he's just one example of multiple people you've abused over the years when people challenge the clique on Russia's responsibility for the invasion of Ukraine.

Val's notion that this was a happy and friendly thread before I started participating is laughably false.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

. I'm happy to stick around and point and laugh at you guys and call out your fake news Russian propaganda BS.

I’ve thought for a while that those pro Russia or anti anti Russia fall into one of 4 camps.

1. Anti progressive chuds who can’t hurt gay, trans and minorities themselves so they vicariously through some white Christian ethno state like what Putin wants.

2. People who don’t have the digital literacy skills to detect misinformation.

3. Those Pilger types who became so anti US, they can’t even acknowledge the few times it’s the lesser of 2 evils.

4. The trump/greenwald/tim pool/ tulsi gubbard types who are actually on the payroll.

I think the clique fit into 2 and 3 but I suspect 1 may apply with some.



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[ferball]

And I love the way you ignored me telling you that you hold Ukraine to crazy standards you don't expect of any other country on earth, and you do it by hiding behind "wah wah my tax dollars".

If you had a racist neighbour that you hated, and his house caught fire, would you help him put out the fire, or would you watch his house burn out of spite, despite knowing it could spread to more innocent neighbours and then potentially spread to your own house?

If I responded as a fire fighter I have a duty to put it out.

But that's not the same as supporting Ukraine for the reasons I've posted (again for about the 50th ****en time. Why don't you just go back and read my comments that I've posted repeatedly every time you say the same ****en thing you lying toe rag.)

 

[ferball]

And I love the way you ignored me telling you that you hold Ukraine to crazy standards you don't expect of any other country on earth, and you do it by hiding behind "wah wah my tax dollars".

If you had a racist neighbour that you hated, and his house caught fire, would you help him put out the fire, or would you watch his house burn out of spite, despite knowing it could spread to more innocent neighbours and then potentially spread to your own house?

You still haven't posted a court decision from elsewhere in Europe where ethinic cleansing was called "direct democracy" in 2021.

Till you do your argument is a crock of shit, just like your lying personality.

 

[Chadwiko]

Ahhh we are at the stage of the discussion where ferball defaults to personal abuse again.

Fun!

 

[Chadwiko]

I’ve thought for a while that those pro Russia or anti anti Russia fall into one of 4 camps.

1. Anti progressive chuds who can’t hurt gay, trans and minorities themselves so they vicariously through some white Christian ethno state like what Putin wants.

2. People who don’t have the digital literacy skills to detect misinformation.

3. Those Pilger types who became so anti US, they can’t even acknowledge the few times it’s the lesser of 2 evils.

4. The trump/greenwald/tim pool/ tulsi gubbard types who are actually on the payroll.

I think the clique fit into 2 and 3 but I suspect 1 may apply with some.



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Ferball is 3
Bojan is somewhere between 1 or 4
Val is the biggest example of 2 you will ever see
DR is a mix of 2 and 3

 

[ferball]

You never said the words "you are a war criminal"

...also Chad

Remember when ferball accused B4Bear of being a war criminal? Yeah, I do.

This is another documented case of Chad lying.

 

[ferball]

Ahhh we are at the stage of the discussion where ferball defaults to personal abuse again.

Fun!

If you didn't lie from the safety of a keyboard somewhere on the other side of Bass Strait I wouldn't have to resort to personal abuse. You liar.

 

[Liam Boy]