Random Chat Thread VIII (Aka the world politics shitfight thread)

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I'm quoting this here cos this fire situation could be talked about for ages.

These fires are driven by whats known as the Santa Ana winds. They are hot dry, strong winds that blow in off the desert in Nevada, Utah and Eastern California. There are predictions of ongoing winds over 120km/hr this week, whether that's gusts or regular wind I dunno. Lets assume its just gusting tho.

You wouldn't be able to use a helicopter in those winds, its too dangerous. Even if you could aiming and delivering the water would be very difficult. Its probably the same story with planes and pink fire ******ant is not much use in an urban area.

As Chad said just before, these fires are happening on the urban interface, what Americans call wildland/urban interface (WUI). If you look on Google Earth or some other sat photos at LA you'll see that not only is there this interface all over the place the bushland there is rough. There are canyons everywhere and this makes the localised wind conditions very unpredictable, especially as the heat from fires feeds back into the air flow. I've been at fires where on the edge of deep gullies, which are pretty much the same thing, the wind below was blowing in one direction up the bottom of the gully while we were (right at the top) it was moving in the opposite direction.

This sort of thing would be happening everywhere in that part of Southern California now.

Its only the places close to the very edge of the interface that are threatened by the actual fire but, just like here, embers will travel on the wind. Especially when its that strong. So fire could be spreading on embers for a kilometre or more away from the edge of their bushland. This is all compounded by the weed problem they have in California. Australian Eucalyptus trees are a weed in California, tho its already got enough fire prone natives. You know what they burn like here, and they're notorious for driving fires with embers. So they'll make a bad situation worse.

I walked up to the Hollywood sign once so yeh
 

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lol Gibsons house burned down when he was on Rogan making up shit about ivermectin.

It's even better than that.

Rogan and Gibson were literally talking about how climate change isn't real... while a winter-wildfire exacerbated by climate change burned down Gibson's house.
 
It's even better than that.

Rogan and Gibson were literally talking about how climate change isn't real... while a winter-wildfire exacerbated by climate change burned down Gibson's house.

Wow. All the thoughts and all the prayers. God hates mel Gibson


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Watching 'The Diplomat' on Netflix (which is excellent by the way), and lo and behold how they describe Putin and the UNPROVOKED assault on Ukraine.

Quite enjoyed that. :)


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"I dOnT sTaRt ArGuMeNtS, I cOmE tO TaLk IsSuEs"
That Should be water off a ducks back.

We all know how you feel about this war and how I feel about it. Nothing you or I post will change that. I've said the same thing for three years and presented plenty of evidence for my opinions, as you would have seen when you went thru that thread looking for reasons to keep fighting.

By all means keep posting. Nothing you post will change anything tho.

And going by your past behaviour you'll just get more frustrated and start doing things that are pretty low, like dragging in turds from other boards to do your fighting for you, lying about posters and what they say, referring to people on this board as a clique when we all have different opinions (except maybe about you,) and all the rest.

The only thing that makes us a clique is we think you're a campaigner.

We all have different opinions about things, including the war, we all disagree from time to time.

When that happens none of us resort to lumping the others together when we disagree, as if they were enemies of the state, then trying to stir up anti clique sentiment across the whole site the way some Ukrainians, Russians and even Italians stirred up anti Roma feelings to incite pogroms in the last few years. But you do. None of us laugh and gloat about people (even if they are ****wits) losing their homes to fire during an apocalyptic disaster that will see tens or hundreds of thousands of people homeless in a nation that actively shits on people who suffer in disasters, without showing a shred of sympathy for those other people. But you do. None of us go over the others posts with a microscopic fine tooth comb looking for wrong think and tiny variations in what we consider orthodoxy to use against each other. But you do.

Look, you're welcome to think Putin and Russia weren't provoked to invade Ukraine. You're entitled to your opinion and from your pov its correct and undeniable. I understand that even tho I disagree. We should celebrate that diversity of opinion.

One thing that isn't unprovoked is the hostility you get because of years of ongoing microagressions and lies you direct at people you lump together in an attempt to marginalise them. Until you change that nothing else will change.
 
You are wrong about this.

You're also saying the head of the LAFD, who cops shit as a DEI hire for MAGA Chads and Musk because she's a woman and has been making that exact point for ages, is making a MAGA attack, when in the months before these fires she criticised the Mayor and city of LA for cutting funding to its fire department (while it increased funds to the LAPD.) Probably cos she saw that comment on Rogan yeah?

There's a difference between the cutting of funds to LA fire departments by the city and the increase of funding to the state fire fighting agency - the California Dept. of Forestry and Fire protection (CALFIRE) by the State of California. CAL FIRE doesn't have primary responsibility for this incident. That responsibility is shared between the LA City FD and LA County FD.
 
That Should be water off a ducks back.

We all know how you feel about this war and how I feel about it. Nothing you or I post will change that. I've said the same thing for three years and presented plenty of evidence for my opinions, as you would have seen when you went thru that thread looking for reasons to keep fighting.

By all means keep posting. Nothing you post will change anything tho.

And going by your past behaviour you'll just get more frustrated and start doing things that are pretty low, like dragging in turds from other boards to do your fighting for you, lying about posters and what they say, referring to people on this board as a clique when we all have different opinions (except maybe about you,) and all the rest.

The only thing that makes us a clique is we think you're a campaigner.

We all have different opinions about things, including the war, we all disagree from time to time.

When that happens none of us resort to lumping the others together when we disagree, as if they were enemies of the state, then trying to stir up anti clique sentiment across the whole site the way some Ukrainians, Russians and even Italians stirred up anti Roma feelings to incite pogroms in the last few years. But you do. None of us laugh and gloat about people (even if they are ****wits) losing their homes to fire during an apocalyptic disaster that will see tens or hundreds of thousands of people homeless in a nation that actively shits on people who suffer in disasters, without showing a shred of sympathy for those other people. But you do. None of us go over the others posts with a microscopic fine tooth comb looking for wrong think and tiny variations in what we consider orthodoxy to use against each other. But you do.

Look, you're welcome to think Putin and Russia weren't provoked to invade Ukraine. You're entitled to your opinion and from your pov its correct and undeniable. I understand that even tho I disagree. We should celebrate that diversity of opinion.

One thing that isn't unprovoked is the hostility you get because of years of ongoing microagressions and lies you direct at people you lump together in an attempt to marginalise them. Until you change that nothing else will change.

You genuinely need a spell. How long did it take you to type that? 10 minutes?

Lollll


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You genuinely need a spell. How long did it take you to type that? 10 minutes?

Lollll


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The guy who needs a spell is the guy whose brain was cooked by Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Cos he thinks stuff like this is a Musk/MAGA lie:

 

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