Oops sorry mate!
Yep every single person in this thread said "Ablett...despite not being very good in finals". That's exactly it.
"Everybody"
On the one hand he says "don't show me the collective results of fans, umpires, players or coaches votes/opinions....This means you have nothing left and I WIN!"
It's hard to work out if your posts are just shit stirring or if you genuinely believe what you post. The fact you are quick to announce posters have taken your bait says you are just trolling
Are you aware that you have to win a prelim to make the grand final and if your tougher opponent (on their home ground) is in the prelim, that is actually the more important game to reflect on? Hawthorn's prelims were often tougher than their grand finals too. Which is why Burgoyne and Mitchell's efforts in the 2013 prelim are so revered. It won them a classic against a tough opponent to start a dynasty (Freo didn't serve them up the same challenge even if they didn't get blown away).
Ah yes "choking" always involves being the second best player on the ground in a losing side.
No I remember, you actually tried to say everyone thought Cyril and Hodge were better 2007-2010 finals players and a few Cats. I think you tried for Swan too. You were laughed at by Hawthorn and Geelong supporters.
He was in his physical prime 2013-2022 (22 to 31 years old...this is equivalent to Ablett's 2006 to 2015) and was a non factor in finals in 5 of 8 seasons in that time. Let's not dress it up too much.
Ablett was broken down from carrying the Suns by 2014 and had his own horrific family problems to deal with away from home, and these factors took a very evident toll on him 2015 onwards. Yet I've seen plenty of ridicule (from the same 3 people) of his finals performances when he was a 34-35 year old forward pocket in a side that generally struggled in finals. But several of them were a class above Martin's 2022 EF. And what about the 2013-2015 period? The 2018 prelim was also far worse than any of Ablett's 2007-2010 finals, even the 2007 grand final you enjoy mocking. Sick/injured/depressed - well it always happened when Richmond were struggling in finals. The last two games of 2020 are the only two Martin finals where he played well when you could argue Richmond were at risk of losing. And only one was a close game (Port); the other became a steam rolling from team domination.
He also had an itchy elbow and a bedroom door that creaked loud at night
English isn’t my first language btw. So good one matey.
Yep unlike Judd and Dusty, GAJ never tore it up when it mattered most. He had 4 chances to win a NS ffs, like what was he doing? Losing to a defender in 08 was his best final. A DEFENDER!
God you love an excuse.
No wonder you’ve never actually played organised sport
He's not the first player to play on after a kidney injury John Newman lost a kidney and Tom Lonergan nearly died after his on-field injury then went on to win a premiership
There is a difference between American English and English
