Banter RDT 169 - One Nice RDT

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There was no shortage of praise for Warne before he died, his record spoke for itself. The rest, that he was an irresponsible party boy who loved himself as much as anyone else did and held grudges that he'd use his position as a commentator to prosecute, is not tactfully raised less than a day after his sudden death.
 

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Presume it's a comment on everyone praising Warnie now he's passed when he was the butt of jokes and scorn immediately prior?

Or I'm over thinking it.

How would Badge know these jokes and scorn unless he's been reading cricket thread?
 
There was no shortage of praise for Warne before he died, his record spoke for itself. The rest, that he was an irresponsible party boy who loved himself as much as anyone else did and held grudges that he'd use his position as a commentator to prosecute, is not tactfully raised less than a day after his sudden death.

Yeah doesn't feel right to say woohoo the Fox commentary won't be such difficult listening anymore.
 
Presume it's a comment on everyone praising Warnie now he's passed when he was the butt of jokes and scorn immediately prior?

Or I'm over thinking it.
Sort of, yeah.

Yesterday he was a flog. Today he’s a hero.

The lesson here is be a good person, or at the very least be so good at a ball sport that nobody really cares and canonises you anyway.
 

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If we can't enjoy sports people who aren't top blokes that rules out about 95% of them. I reckon it's OK for people to mourn the best sports person they've ever seen.

This is spot on though, I despise the attitude that just because you're a fan of persons ability - whether it's sport, music, acting or other - that you'd automatically be mates. It's possible to separate individuals and their abilities from their personal lives. Safe to say I wouldn't be friends with the majority of Eagles players.

Granted this isn't a flawless grading technique as there's obviously some terrible people that have done special things, but really Warne may have been a bit of a dick off the field, but he ain't Kevin Spacey.
 
This is spot on though, I despise the attitude that just because you're a fan of persons ability - whether it's sport, music, acting or other - that you'd automatically be mates. It's possible to separate individuals and their abilities from their personal lives.

What about when so much of their work seems to echo their life, ala all those films Woody Allen has made about an older writer/director in New York and the young, young woman who falls in love with them?
 
What about when so much of their work seems to echo their life, ala all those films Woody Allen has made about an older writer/director in New York and the young, young woman who falls in love with them?

Of course - but I thought that my second paragraph addressed that?

There's definitely cases that you can look past - generally it's when they're not hurting another person. For example I like Beck's music, but he's a Scientologist. I generally enjoy Benedict Cumberbatch's work, but I think he's a massive w***er whenever I hear him speak outside of a role.
 
Of course - but I thought that my second paragraph addressed that?

There's definitely cases that you can look past - generally it's when they're not hurting another person. For example I like Beck's music, but he's a Scientologist. I generally enjoy Benedict Cumberbatch's work, but I think he's a massive w***er whenever I hear him speak outside of a role.

I'm may have misread, but my point wasn't just that Woody Allen is a piece of shit, but that his particular piece of shitness seeps into his work. If Beck wrote a lot of songs about Scientology, for instance (I assume he hasn't).
 
If we can't enjoy sports people who aren't top blokes that rules out about 95% of them. I reckon it's OK for people to mourn the best sports person they've ever seen.
There’s eccentric sportspeople, then there’s absolute drug fiend serial adulterers grooming girls on Insta every night. He did make the ball spin quite good so I guess that’s fine.

Nobody needs athletes to be the second coming of Christ but pretty weird that how good you are making a ball talk is directly related to how much objectively and intentional campaigner behaviour people will write off as larrikinism.
 
I also think it’s bullshit to assume that 95% of athletes are bad blokes. The worst of the worst are very prominent, but I think the vast majority are just normal people who happen to be great at doing a thing with a thing. Most just want to go to work and go home to their life, same as everyone.
 
I also think it’s bullshit to assume that 95% of athletes are bad blokes. The worst of the worst are very prominent, but I think the vast majority are just normal people who happen to be great at doing a thing with a thing. Most just want to go to work and go home to their life, same as everyone.

I'm not picking a fight - just after an honest answer. What would your response be if Ben Cousins died?
 
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