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I wouldn't care if I was a Dogs or Tigers fan - they just won recent premierships...
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Richmond in 2018: Another Bulldogs or here to stay?
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They won't go back to back!
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We were 3 games and 20% clear of 9th and won the same amount of games as Richmond did this year.
Yeah they're a quality footy side and very fast. Up for 2 or 3 years surely.
Essendon and Hawthorn both hardly missed finals for the next decade. And Adelaide a shock premiership? They'd just gone back to back....
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Dogs wooden spoon next year, Tigers just make the finals.
So if you get Caracella over to the Pies next year you’ll win the Premiership???
Ok.
Certainly feel more of a Bulldogs type than a sustained powerhouse, but you'd still expect them to play finals and probably challenge.
Hard to put a standout on next year, with GWS unable to win much interstate. Sydney probs favourites.
Hard to put a standout on next year, with GWS unable to win much interstate. Sydney probs favourites.
Sydney need to start the year better (obviously) and probably mix it up a bit more tactically.
Fantastic list with a great mix of talented youth and finals-hardened older players. They'll be hard to beat as always.
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Start of a fivepeat.
In the 8 somewhere, 3-6. Depends again on draw, injuries and the continual improvement of the 2nd string players i.e.
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I think they will finish 9th.
They would be going for their 6th flag in a row next year if they had just pissed Ty Vikery off earlier.
9th looming large for the Tigers in 2018, but their fans no longer give a stuff, not for a few years anyway! they will enjoy this moment for the next 6 months and by round 8 next year and they are 3-5 or 2-6 they will begin to scratch their heads again?
Compare the spines of 2016 Bulldogs and 2017 Tigers and tell me they're the same.
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That spine is the reason Richmond will remain in the top four. Richmond also have a far more dynamic and free-flowing style than the old Western Bulldogs. Their plan is centred on going route one and moving forward, which with that spine is very hard to repel. They're a fantastic team and will continue to be one.
Hamling-Morris-Bontempelli-Roughead-Cordy-Boyd
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Rance-Astbury-Cotchin-Nankervis-Martin-Riewoldt
That spine is the reason Richmond will remain in the top four. Richmond also have a far more dynamic and free-flowing style than the old Western Bulldogs. Their plan is centred on going route one and moving forward, which with that spine is very hard to repel. They're a fantastic team and will continue to be one.
Thread title should've been "Richmond: Where are they at?"
It's not hard to picture us dropping off the pace. A lot of things clicked into position in the run home. Martin could scarcely play any better. We'll get a tougher draw, and the players have achieved the ultimate and will need to maintain the desire to do it again. 1981 was among the most disappointing seasons I've experienced as a Richmond supporter.
On the other hand we've got nobody about to retire, two first-round draft picks, a handy lot in reserve including Bolton, Ellis, Short & Menadue. Only one player on the list without senior experience. And above all - the monkey's off the back.
On the other hand we've got nobody about to retire, two first-round draft picks, a handy lot in reserve including Bolton, Ellis, Short & Menadue. Only one player on the list without senior experience. And above all - the monkey's off the back.
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Another Bulldogs...
Well they might sneak into the lower reaches of the 8 at best.
These two sides premiership seasons, gameplan and squads are quite comparable.
Manic pressure, tackling & harassing + small fwd line running in waves getting Coast to coast goals.
Also how both sides only had one true tall fwd hence low scoring grinds.
The Bont in 2016 was comparable to Dusty 2017 a bullish mid who often led their side to victory on their own.
Both sides had strong home ground advantages, Dogs at etihad and Richmond at the MCG.
Tigers did benefit from a easier draw thanks to finishing 13th in 2016.
After a long summer of partying and harder draw, perhaps a slight drop in hunger.
My tip is just outside the 8 on percentage.
Well they might sneak into the lower reaches of the 8 at best.
These two sides premiership seasons, gameplan and squads are quite comparable.
Manic pressure, tackling & harassing + small fwd line running in waves getting Coast to coast goals.
Also how both sides only had one true tall fwd hence low scoring grinds.
The Bont in 2016 was comparable to Dusty 2017 a bullish mid who often led their side to victory on their own.
Both sides had strong home ground advantages, Dogs at etihad and Richmond at the MCG.
Tigers did benefit from a easier draw thanks to finishing 13th in 2016.
After a long summer of partying and harder draw, perhaps a slight drop in hunger.
My tip is just outside the 8 on percentage.
They won't be top 4
Played interstate matches in 2017 against.
Brisbane
Adelaide
GWS
Port
Suns
Freo
Double ups against
Brisbane
Fremantle
Carlton
St Kilda
GWS
Further adding to the Dogs comparison.
After winning the flag
Interstate games
Fremantle
GWS
WCE
Sydney
Adelaide
Brisbane
Double ups
Sydney
North
Brisbane
WCE
GWS
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I love it when North supporters are so definitive! Literally everything they have predicted about our team this year the opposite has happened, don't know if I should thank them or abuse them.
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Yep, which is why this thread is not a bad one. It is a genuine discussion point.
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There are a few differences between Bulldogs and Richmond.
- The core players that drove the Bulldogs to the flag were either young, or were well into their 30s. Most of Richmond's core players are 24-29.
- Something that drove the Bulldogs last year was their unity as a playing group and their willingness to play for each other. That didn't stick as much this year due to a couple of issues. If Richmond continue to have that close bond, then I think they can go again next year.
- Bulldogs fell from 7th at the end of the H&A to 10th. Richmond actually made the top 4, so that is a different point to highlight as well. They'd need to fall 5+ places to miss the 8 which is not impossible considering that Richmond jumped from 13th to 1st this year, but more than what Bulldogs did.
- The core Richmond players have made finals 4 out of the last 5 season, whereas it was only the second time that Bulldogs made a final with their young core players at their club.
Hence, Richmond's central players are a little more mature in age and experience than the Bulldogs' core. They had a few older guys, but as I said before, they were well into their 30s. Those are a couple of points I'd consider when talking about the two sides comparatively.
Also, Hardwick has been around since 2010 whereas Beveridge was only in his second year, meaning that Hardwick has been at the helm for longer to experience and analyse how quickly the dynamics of the competition changes and why other teams or his own team drop/rise.
Richmond missing the 8 can happen of course (we barely had serious injuries hit our core senior players), but I gotta say that the group appear to be quite a mature bunch. It would be interesting to see how they go next year.
- The core players that drove the Bulldogs to the flag were either young, or were well into their 30s. Most of Richmond's core players are 24-29.
- Something that drove the Bulldogs last year was their unity as a playing group and their willingness to play for each other. That didn't stick as much this year due to a couple of issues. If Richmond continue to have that close bond, then I think they can go again next year.
- Bulldogs fell from 7th at the end of the H&A to 10th. Richmond actually made the top 4, so that is a different point to highlight as well. They'd need to fall 5+ places to miss the 8 which is not impossible considering that Richmond jumped from 13th to 1st this year, but more than what Bulldogs did.
- The core Richmond players have made finals 4 out of the last 5 season, whereas it was only the second time that Bulldogs made a final with their young core players at their club.
Hence, Richmond's central players are a little more mature in age and experience than the Bulldogs' core. They had a few older guys, but as I said before, they were well into their 30s. Those are a couple of points I'd consider when talking about the two sides comparatively.
Also, Hardwick has been around since 2010 whereas Beveridge was only in his second year, meaning that Hardwick has been at the helm for longer to experience and analyse how quickly the dynamics of the competition changes and why other teams or his own team drop/rise.
Richmond missing the 8 can happen of course (we barely had serious injuries hit our core senior players), but I gotta say that the group appear to be quite a mature bunch. It would be interesting to see how they go next year.
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Love the way people state "they won't be top 4" or "they will miss finals" like it's fact. We just beat the top three sides convincingly. We have some awesome talent in the VFL and two first round picks plus Naish...keep bringing the salty statements.
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Bulldogs also won the VFL but that did little in their quest for b2b in 2017!
Nobody will know until the next season, I do think that the competition will be close again. Coaches will come up with ways to negate Richmonds game plan.
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