I love you Sheeds, you've conned the Tigers into taking Cuzzy, you've always been a Bomber.
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He may or may not make a full recovery. When it is determined that he cannot play again, then the situation should be revisited at that time.which as you should know, could be lifelong... if so,(touch wood), what is it then?
Right. Richmond should have done this prior to the National Draft because it was unlikely that he was ever going to play in 2009, and that is why it won't be permitted. Nor should it be.definitive diagnosis cannot be made for another 6 months at least
No, I think that placing him on the long-term injury list for this season only is enough. If the diagnosis at that time is still unclear then special circumstances could be given at the end of next season.So if Polak gets hit by another tram (or maybe a bus) you'd be okay with it then?
Who said I am from the US?If your from the US then how can you know so much about Australian News? or better yet AFL?
People must only work in nursing homes to understand head injuries? Is that what you're trying to say? If so, then this topic may be out of your league.Irrelevant. You don't work in a nursing home.
I love you Sheeds, you've conned the Tigers into taking Cuzzy, you've always been a Bomber.
I work in the medical field, and I have a Masters in Biology, and my job in the US is so specialised that there isn't such a position in Australia yet. He has an injury.
Cut the crap everyone.
Life isn't black and white and neither is this situation.
There is no doubt in my mind that Richmond have identified a potential advantage in securing an extra pick in the PSD and the timing of this application suggests this. However, there I am equally sure in saying that there was (and is) something critical and abnormal about the Polak case.
Stop pretending like there is a right answer - it's a combination of one and the other. Richmond is not innocent and 'protecting' Polak but you can hardly condemn the club for making a valid application.
And btw, comparing life-threatening situations/diseases is wrong on many different levels. To contend that Polak wasn't 'as sick' as Rama and seemingly drawing up a list of pros and cons of each condition is just bizarre.
Pull your head out.
What's happened to you RT? Wouldn't raise an eyebrow?
An extra pick in the PSD and the mature age rookie-ing of a bloke involved in one of the worst moments of AFL 2008 is something that would gain attention - and clubs would remain as discontented as they appear to be now.
Notice the percentage of people running around here with a pro-Cousins agenda? Everyone wants to see him back, some don't like the rule-bending we're doing, but everyone seems to favour a second crack. There would be far more people kicking and screaming should the Cousins factor be absent from this little affair.
Impartial about this. Good player, but it is a massive risk. Plus he is 30 something years old.
People must only work in nursing homes to understand head injuries? Is that what you're trying to say? If so, then this topic may be out of your league.
Do you really think Eddie would give a fats rats clacker if we were going to pick up a kid like Klemke or redraft Gourdis? Of course he wouldn't, but because we may pick up one of the best midfielders in the last decade he is on the radio within the hour beating his chest saying the Pies will not be voting for it.Pull your head out.
What's happened to you RT? Wouldn't raise an eyebrow?
An extra pick in the PSD and the mature age rookie-ing of a bloke involved in one of the worst moments of AFL 2008 is something that would gain attention - and clubs would remain as discontented as they appear to be now.
Notice the percentage of people running around here with a pro-Cousins agenda? Everyone wants to see him back, some don't like the rule-bending we're doing, but everyone seems to favour a second crack. There would be far more people kicking and screaming should the Cousins factor be absent from this little affair.
I love you Sheeds, you've conned the Tigers into taking Cuzzy, you've always been a Bomber.
When I first heard this I thought Richmond were pulling a swifty by pretending to be interested in Cousins, thus maybe forcing another club to waste a pick on him instead ... but then I thought, "no, Wallace isn't that clever, he really would be stupid enough to pick up Cousins".
Richmond, this is why you've gone nowhere under Wallace's coaching term, and why your "years without a premiership" will continue for many years to come.
Can any poster from an opposition club say that they wouldn't want to see their club use the same rules if it happened to one of their players?
Massive Risk???
Realisitically... Where would Polak fit in the side this year? I think our Backline is young but growing every so resilient. We have Alex Rance who will play this year, I think it may be a severe lack of chance for Polak anyway. It's sad to hear he is not up to the fitness levels required by AFL players nowadays, I hope in time he does get his full health back, but if he can't play we would surely be approved to put him on the mature list and be granted a second selection in the PSD.
McGuire, well, he can put his 2 bob worth anywhere because his opinion won't have an effect on the outcome. What a naive call to state they won't support it. Maybe McGuire should look in his own paddock first, he had the chance to draft Cousins, they chose to overlook it, and now want to try object to another club having their chance. Why? because they KNOW he'll make a huge difference to a side.....
Massive risk, I think not. PSD gives us the power to give him a year by year contract, plus I expect there will be clauses to protect us from liability shold it full foul, which we hope not. I think someone suggested if he relapsed then both player and club would face sanctions, completely untrue. I think you'll find that give the amount of media interest in this procession, full liability would fall on the player.
I think its a bold move, but a good one. Secondpick in the preseason draft, go for it! How have our previous PSD Players performed???? And I suspect there has been no one of the calibre that is Ben Cousins.....
I hope it happens. Klemke at No. 6, Cousins No.7 (Given AFL approval....)
What was that supposed to mean? If you happen to be discussing me instead of the topic, then please don't. My job is neither obscure or insignificant.The science world's word for 'obscure and insignificant'.
Compassion? What are you on about? I have compassion for all players that have been hurt either on or off the footy field. The continuing injury to Matthew Egan is terrible. The recurring shoulder injuries to Sean Rusling have been unfortunate. The situation with Graham Polak is too, etc, etc, etc. What does compassion have to do with this?No, only to have some compassion.
Perhaps the club hadn't got the latest update on Polaks condition before this week. Word floating around on other fan sites is he is suffering complications that he hadn't been suffereing from. Maybe that is why the club has made the application today instead of jumping the gun a few weeks ago.Richmond should have applied BEFORE the final list cut-off.
Yeah, that Skipworth's a real steal eh.....
The science world's word for 'obscure and insignificant'.
What was that supposed to mean? If you happen to be discussing me instead of the topic, then please don't. My job is neither obscure or insignificant.Compassion? What are you on about? I have compassion for all players that have been hurt either on or off the footy field. The continuing injury to Matthew Egan is terrible. The recurring shoulder injuries to Sean Rusling have been unfortunate. The situation with Graham Polak is too, etc, etc, etc. What does compassion have to do with this?
He derves another chance
He committed victimless crimes. Sheesh, you'd swear he'd really hurt someone!
He has been harshly treated and I hope we pick him up.
Regarding Polak, I am OK with the club's request IF they can show that diagmosis has only just become available that suggests he will be long term injured.
Polak is being supported by us, so good on us. The AFL should agree to allow us to rookie list Polak, on compassionate grounds. Comparisons with Croad, Egan or Maguire are just stupid. This is serious, the others have a limp.
Cousins deserves a chance. He is a champion of the game and for him to be lost to it at 30 would be terrible. Never tested positive, a victim of his own high profile and put his hand up. This could be a sensational turnaround story
Perhaps the club hadn't got the latest update on Polaks condition before this week. Word floating around on other fan sites is he is suffering complications that he hadn't been suffereing from.
The continuing injury to Matthew Egan is terrible. The recurring shoulder injuries to Sean Rusling have been unfortunate. The situation with Graham Polak is too, etc, etc, etc. What does compassion have to do with this?
Whilst i dont want to sledge Egan or anything while hes injured, and he has the greatest sympathy from me, Egan's prolonged injury is PARTLY his own fault because he tried to be fit in time for the Grand Final, and didnt take the recovery option carefully. Its worth noting that you and I and probably 99% of the footballing world would do the same thing, but its unfortunate.