HoneyBadger35
They're not going to pick him, Mitch.
- Aug 11, 2011
- 28,481
- 80,779
- AFL Club
- West Coast
- Moderator
- #1,669
Forgive the intrusion everyone, I come in peace.
List Mgmt. Rioli to Port Discussion
- Thread starter Biggie
- Start date
- Tagged users None
- Status
From the HS.
Really?
WHY RIOLI IS STILL UNDECIDED
Port Adelaide has offered Willie Rioli a four-year contract but remain aware his fierce loyalty to his club at West Coast might keep him at the Eagles.
The Eagles are understood to have offered three years for the 27-year-old but the deal is not as lucrative and clearly is shorter.
Rioli is keen to buy a house for his family in Darwin and has family obligations in the Northern Territory.
But given he still hasn’t made a decision on his future he is clearly torn about moving on from West Coast, who stuck with him despite a two-year drug ban.
That decision did allow them to retain the rights to Rioli despite rival interest but no one can doubt West Coast’s commitment to him across the years.
Really?
WHY RIOLI IS STILL UNDECIDED
Port Adelaide has offered Willie Rioli a four-year contract but remain aware his fierce loyalty to his club at West Coast might keep him at the Eagles.
The Eagles are understood to have offered three years for the 27-year-old but the deal is not as lucrative and clearly is shorter.
Rioli is keen to buy a house for his family in Darwin and has family obligations in the Northern Territory.
But given he still hasn’t made a decision on his future he is clearly torn about moving on from West Coast, who stuck with him despite a two-year drug ban.
That decision did allow them to retain the rights to Rioli despite rival interest but no one can doubt West Coast’s commitment to him across the years.
I'm the same now. Though I am assuming we'll get a second round selection for him (either this year or next). Anything less and I'd rather he stays.
Can they trade their future second 2 years running?
- Feb 12, 2008
- 11,277
- 21,929
- AFL Club
- West Coast
He's ****ed up, now he's trying to fix up and clean up to make a better future for his family.
I was annoyed to begin with, I'm also fiercely loyal. Family comes first however. More Power
straining to him.
If we get a pick in the 20's or Dev ect, then everyone wins.
Good luck Jr. It's a crazy offer if true. You look after your own mate.
I was annoyed to begin with, I'm also fiercely loyal. Family comes first however. More Power
straining to him.If we get a pick in the 20's or Dev ect, then everyone wins.
Good luck Jr. It's a crazy offer if true. You look after your own mate.
- May 18, 2014
- 1,683
- 1,533
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
Not in a flag window at all. This is all done as an attempt to get us into the top 8, in order for Hinkles to get an extension. It will bloody work too. Watch us scrape into top 8 and the muppets call him an extraordinary coach.
- May 18, 2014
- 1,683
- 1,533
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
Honestly t
This is the best case scenario too. The risk outweighs the reward here, but really think you’re going to get the Amon compo. And I will hate every second of it.
Tbh Rioli is a gun and one of my favourite players, but I don’t think he is the difference between making the 8 or not.
They're also into Dunkley and Aaron Francis as well.
Port did a bunch of trades around end of 2015 (from memory) and ended up with Dixon, Rockliff, Motlop and Watts. Not all of them came off, but overall they ended up with a pretty solid list. It's amazing they didn't achieve top 4 around 2017/18. I suspect they're trying to repeat the process, but it's pretty high risk.
Aaron francis is a pea heart
Chump Change
Club Legend
- Apr 16, 2022
- 2,248
- 3,221
- AFL Club
- West Coast
- Banned
- #613
It's Fwancis thankyou very much.
In that case, top 4 awaits
Schoey gets it right as usual
Carbine Chaos
See My Chess
- Apr 1, 2009
- 65,612
- 99,864
- AFL Club
- West Coast
- Other Teams
- Perth FC, Everton, Delhi
I almost coughed up the buck to read it but did a quick google first. Code sports is part of News Corp and once you sign up it's almost impossible to cancel. Got to ring them to get it processed apparently, get stuck on hold... No thanks.
- Jun 2, 2006
- 4,557
- 3,041
- AFL Club
- West Coast
- Other Teams
- Charlton FC
Gave all pros and cons, the obvious ones. Then said the club should cut it's loses and move on.
I'll post the whole article later.
- Mar 11, 2015
- 2,112
- 4,675
- AFL Club
- West Coast
Rioli should just move on
Junior Rioli put West Coast Eagles through hell, but does he owe the club as he ponders move to Port Adelaide?
West Coast Eagles stood by Junior Rioli through his darkest days. Should he now stand by the club through its struggles? WILL SCHOFIELD discusses.After visiting Port Adelaide earlier this week for a medical, it looks like Junior Rioli may be out the door at West Coast, to continue his career at Alberton.
A player wanting to be traded to another club. So what?
We’ve just seen Tim Taranto walk out of GWS and into a seven-year deal at Richmond. We saw Jeremy Cameron do the same thing to the same club two years ago, moving to Geelong.
Do they owe the club?
The complication in the Rioli matter is his list of off field indiscretions over the past four seasons and, to a lesser extent, his performance and lack of output after he returned from a two-year suspension.
After visiting Port Adelaide earlier this week for a medical, it looks like Junior Rioli may be out the door at West Coast, to continue his career at Alberton.
A player wanting to be traded to another club. So what?
We’ve just seen Tim Taranto walk out of GWS and into a seven-year deal at Richmond. We saw Jeremy Cameron do the same thing to the same club two years ago, moving to Geelong.
Do they owe the club?
The complication in the Rioli matter is his list of off field indiscretions over the past four seasons and, to a lesser extent, his performance and lack of output after he returned from a two-year suspension.
I’ve seen a lot written and said about Rioli and his contract situation this last week, but not too much from those who know him and the person he is.
I’ll never forget the emergency team meeting called in 2019 before our semi-final against Geelong at the MCG. It was a Thursday, September 12th to be exact (my wife’s birthday). We were playing Friday night and we had arrived Wednesday evening as usual two days out from the game. I woke Thursday to an urgent message to be in the team meeting room at the Pullman Hotel at 8:45am sharp.
Something about the message felt ominous. Out of the ordinary meetings like this were rarely called. Athletes in general are creatures of habit and sleep is valued highly, especially on away trips, so I knew we were walking into something important.
I got used to the walk into meetings with coaches over my career. I could usually tell if they were going to be positive ones or negative ones within the first few seconds.
This one was the most obvious.
This was bad.
Adam Simpson stood at the front, struggling to make eye contact with many of the playing group. There were a few other staff in the room, but not many. If his body language hadn’t already given it away, the message was clear enough as soon as he started speaking.
It was as if the air had sucked from the room as Simpson informed us what had happened the night prior. As we had checked into the hotel the previous evening, AFL integrity officials lay in wait. There may have been representatives from ASADA there, too. The club and Rioli were informed of the reported breach of the AFL anti-doping code, provisionally banning him from playing Friday night, with a possible four-year ban on the cards.
Everyone was in shock.
The club were concerned for Junior’s health and mental welfare. They had him on a plane before the news had even broken. By the time the morning meeting rolled around, he was already on his way back home.
It was team shattering news. It had an effect on our team. Of course, Geelong were the better team on the night, but we were rattled. Not only did we lose the player that Rioli was, a match winner, but we had lost a mate; someone we cared deeply about was in trouble and there wasn’t much we could do about it.
We lost to Geelong. We didn’t defend our 2018 premiership.
So, Junior Rioli.
Should he stay or should he go?
There are two views.
The first: The AFL is a business. Players come and go, for all kinds of reasons. No player will ever be bigger than the club and player movement has never more free than now. So, Rioli should do as he pleases. He doesn’t owe the West Coast Eagles anything.
The second: The West Coast Eagles side of the argument.
Rioli was found guilty and suspended for two years over drug sample tampering. During that time, he admitted to and was charged with drug possession, stashing 25 grams of cannabis in his pants while on board a charter flight from Darwin to the Tiwi Islands. The club stuck by him during this time, paying him a wage. His court costs were covered and they effectively gave him hope at the end of a long, dark tunnel.
They could have quite easily delisted him at any time.
But they stuck by him through his tough times.
So, the theory goes, he should stick with them through theirs.
Both arguments have their merits.
The West Coast Eagles should be disappointed that Rioli is exploring his options. They’ve put time, money and care into him and might feel that they are owed some point of return from a player who has put the club through hell.
If he does leave, he won’t walk out the door for nothing, though. West Coast are now rebuilding and the draft pick they will receive will be added to an extremely strong draft hand this year.
After visiting Port Adelaide earlier this week for a medical, it looks like Junior Rioli may be out the door at West Coast, to continue his career at Alberton.
A player wanting to be traded to another club. So what?
We’ve just seen Tim Taranto walk out of GWS and into a seven-year deal at Richmond. We saw Jeremy Cameron do the same thing to the same club two years ago, moving to Geelong.
Do they owe the club?
The complication in the Rioli matter is his list of off field indiscretions over the past four seasons and, to a lesser extent, his performance and lack of output after he returned from a two-year suspension.
I’ve seen a lot written and said about Rioli and his contract situation this last week, but not too much from those who know him and the person he is.
I’ll never forget the emergency team meeting called in 2019 before our semi-final against Geelong at the MCG. It was a Thursday, September 12th to be exact (my wife’s birthday). We were playing Friday night and we had arrived Wednesday evening as usual two days out from the game. I woke Thursday to an urgent message to be in the team meeting room at the Pullman Hotel at 8:45am sharp.
Something about the message felt ominous. Out of the ordinary meetings like this were rarely called. Athletes in general are creatures of habit and sleep is valued highly, especially on away trips, so I knew we were walking into something important.
I got used to the walk into meetings with coaches over my career. I could usually tell if they were going to be positive ones or negative ones within the first few seconds.
This one was the most obvious.
This was bad.
Adam Simpson stood at the front, struggling to make eye contact with many of the playing group. There were a few other staff in the room, but not many. If his body language hadn’t already given it away, the message was clear enough as soon as he started speaking.
It was as if the air had sucked from the room as Simpson informed us what had happened the night prior. As we had checked into the hotel the previous evening, AFL integrity officials lay in wait. There may have been representatives from ASADA there, too. The club and Rioli were informed of the reported breach of the AFL anti-doping code, provisionally banning him from playing Friday night, with a possible four-year ban on the cards.
Everyone was in shock.
The club were concerned for Junior’s health and mental welfare. They had him on a plane before the news had even broken. By the time the morning meeting rolled around, he was already on his way back home.
It was team shattering news. It had an effect on our team. Of course, Geelong were the better team on the night, but we were rattled. Not only did we lose the player that Rioli was, a match winner, but we had lost a mate; someone we cared deeply about was in trouble and there wasn’t much we could do about it.
We lost to Geelong. We didn’t defend our 2018 premiership.
So, Junior Rioli.
Should he stay or should he go?
There are two views.
The first: The AFL is a business. Players come and go, for all kinds of reasons. No player will ever be bigger than the club and player movement has never more free than now. So, Rioli should do as he pleases. He doesn’t owe the West Coast Eagles anything.
The second: The West Coast Eagles side of the argument.
Rioli was found guilty and suspended for two years over drug sample tampering. During that time, he admitted to and was charged with drug possession, stashing 25 grams of cannabis in his pants while on board a charter flight from Darwin to the Tiwi Islands. The club stuck by him during this time, paying him a wage. His court costs were covered and they effectively gave him hope at the end of a long, dark tunnel.
They could have quite easily delisted him at any time.
But they stuck by him through his tough times.
So, the theory goes, he should stick with them through theirs.
Both arguments have their merits.
The West Coast Eagles should be disappointed that Rioli is exploring his options. They’ve put time, money and care into him and might feel that they are owed some point of return from a player who has put the club through hell.
If he does leave, he won’t walk out the door for nothing, though. West Coast are now rebuilding and the draft pick they will receive will be added to an extremely strong draft hand this year.
The club effectively picked him off the scrap heap in 2018. He played in a premiership in his first season. He was in the final centre bounce of the game, applying pressure and winning the clearance. He was no fringe player.
The 2019 season was a good one for him on the field until it all came crashing down and the two season ban was applied. He has since returned as a shadow of his former self. But can you blame him? He looks shattered.
That brings me to the human element of this discussion.
Rioli has endured a torrid three seasons (some of this self-inflicted, mind you). He’s openly spoken about his struggles mentally being away from the game and his teammates for so long. Regardless of what you think about the reason for him being away from the club, it would still have been difficult to live through. He’s recently lost his father, a key person in his life. Speaking from personal experience, that’s not an easy thing to go through at a relatively young age.
I know Junior Rioli as a caring and kind person. He loves his family.
This part of me, the teammate and the friend, says he owes the club nothing.
He needs support around him to succeed, not just in football but in life. He can be naive and innocent at times. He needs guidance and care.
West Coast made the decision to support him through his suspension, as they should have. They were his guides and carers through perhaps the most difficult period in his life. But if he wants a fresh start, does he owe the club for their support?
If he does, what exactly does he owe them?
One more year? Two, three?
To be a one club player?
As I sat down to write this, I still didn’t know which side of the argument I fell on.
But now with it all in front of me, I do.
West Coast have given everything they could have to Junior Rioli, but now he wants to go.
It’s time for the club to cut its losses and move on.
Maybe both sides can get their happily-ever-after if they walk away.
Bennie the Nurse
Senior List
What money
is being offered ?What length of contract is being offered ?
What terms and conditions are attached to any offer ?
No one really knows…… we only know suppositions created by the media.
We have heard that he has more “Family Support“ in Adelaide or so the story goes ???
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
- Poll
- Locked
- Poll
