Preview RND 1 - Carlton v Richmond Thursday 17th March 7.25PM @ MCG - Team Post #851

[katmanblue]

Do it for Doc boys

Yeah..also, do it for us.

 

[katmanblue]

tough love

Appropriate amount of love for Dow.

 

[Bletch]

Dow not even emergency.

Is he injured/have a niggle or completely on the outer?

He was in the extended squad for the StK praccy match, but ended up playing 2s. Didn't make the Melb praccy match team either. And that's despite an extended bench and several players rested. Tells you a bit about where he is at the moment. Needs to prove his worth.

 

[Ahuitzotl]

Very excited.

Still a mathematical chance for finals.

 

[Kramer1]

I am just back from the near future, and yes I have the answer to the question you all seek.








Patient Rooster ran second in the last at the Gunnedah greys

 

[myblueroan]

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Happy game St Patrick's Day

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Dow not even emergency.

Is he injured/have a niggle or completely on the outer?

Didn't really stand out in the VFL preseason games. He should be getting 25-30 touches with his eyes closed at that level.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

It will be interesting to see if the two rucks work, but at least De Koning has some forward craft. What are Richmond thinking playing Nankervis & Soldo? Seems like it just gives Carlton a free spare defender.

Hasn't Nankervis just come out of iso? Possibly had the virus... may be unwell still?

 

[Chism]

Didn't really stand out in the VFL preseason games. He should be getting 25-30 touches with his eyes closed at that level.

He ain’t that good sadly and is quickly becoming dead wood on the list. Only thing saving him so far is his draft position as if he was drafted in the 6th round and performed like he has at AFL level he would be playing local level footy in the burbs.

You can’t nail every selection i suppose on draft day and he was highly rated as a junior but some just can’t take the next step into the AFL sadly. Voss won’t put up with his one way running and poor disposal not to mention playing scared.

 

[Blue__Balls]

I certainly think he is slow. If he wasn’t he would be that far above anyone in the AFL it wouldn’t be funny.

Weits to beat Lynch.
Then who to Riewoldt? Gov is my pick but somewhat undersized amd never had that big of a task. He would give us nightmares when the ball hits the ground on Omac.
If Balta plays forward he too big for Gov and too athletic for O’Mac.
If Nank is forward do we put O’mac on him and leave an undersized Gov on one of the other talls or do we try and play Gov on an almost 2m Nank?
We have two proper talls and one third tall who is undersized, they have three genuine talls. They also have the option of putting Martin to full forward who we have no reliable matchup for.

Same can pretty much be said for the other end of the ground though, yeah?

Harry (204cm) -> Tarrant (196cm and slow)
TDK (203cm) -> Gibcus (196cm and on debut)
JSOS (194cm) -> Grimes (194cm)
Charlie (192cm) -> Broad (192cm)
Martin (186cm but jumps) -> Rioli? (179cm)

We'll also have the odd cameo from Cripps (195cm) and Kennedy (190cm).

If Pittonet (202cm) drifts forward then Nankervis (199cm) probably follows him.

We have a much greater KPP advantage inside our forward 50 than they potentially have in theirs. They've got good matchups for our third and fourth forward, but nothing close to our genuine talls.

Indicates that the midfield battle is going to be critical.

 

[onesilop]

Dow not even emergency.

Is he injured/have a niggle or completely on the outer?

Dow is an emergency




just not for Carlton

 

[BIuebagger]

Let’s ****ing go. Excitement just kicked in a little more. Really want our forwards to stretch their defence tonight, think H, Charlie and JSOS can give them a good run for their money, and mids to give as best delivery as possible.

It’s quite muggy out there, could be a bit slippery.

 

[BigFrizz36]

If we had this guy in his prime playing tonight we just wouldn't lose. Tough competitor and probably pound for pound the best big game player that I've ever seen.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

He ain’t that good sadly and is quickly becoming dead wood on the list. Only thing saving him so far is his draft position as if he was drafted in the 6th round and performed like he has at AFL level he would be playing local level footy in the burbs.

You can’t nail every selection i suppose on draft day and he was highly rated as a junior but some just can’t take the next step into the AFL sadly. Voss won’t put up with his one way running and poor disposal not to mention playing scared.

Sadly for him it's looking that way.
He's got this year under Voss to make some giant strides and see what he can make of it, but struggle to see him lasting beyond that (not sure of his contract status) if he hasn't cemented himself as a top 25-26 player at the club by year's end.

 

[CJMB]

What's the go with Dow? Injured/underdone? Not a good sign if he isn't even in the emergencies...

A shame, I think he has something to work with. Would much rather be giving him some burn than Setterfield who doesn't seem to have any outstanding qualities.

Voss looks to be picking his team based on positions rather than players. He said for Dow to play, and play as a midfielder, he's got to press his case to get ahead of one of the incumbents.

Setterfield is playing a role Dow isn't really suitable for; the defensive wing. He's covering a lot of ground, getting up and down the field and guarding space to prevent/deter easy switches or the angle play to shift into the corridor. Having some height helps there too.

Going off what we've watched and checking the CBA numbers from the Melbourne preseason game, we're running a pretty tight on-ball rotation with fairly clear roles. It looks something like this:

Big dog: Cripps for ~85%. Kennedy ~15%
Supporting: Hewett ~60%. Kennedy ~40%
Distributor: Cerra ~65%. Hewett ~20%. Fisher ~15%

O'Brien is the attacking wing for about 80%, Setterfield the defensive wing for about 85%. Think Cerra starts outside the square here a bit too, plus spurts from Fisher & Martin to make up the rest. Kennedy spends the other ~20% of his time starting from half forward, being a link player or taking marks and having shots at goal.

That's it really. Dow's going to have to put in a serious effort to get ahead of those onballers. Then we've got Walsh returning soon, Carroll is seemingly pressing being named as an emergency shortly after his little injury setback. Those two could play inside or out, meaning there's more positions available for them to fit into, while Dow is really only an option inside at this stage.

 

[chunkylover53]

Didn't really stand out in the VFL preseason games. He should be getting 25-30 touches with his eyes closed at that level.

Yeah he should be taking the absolute piss at that level with his attributes.

Strange.

 

[Juddrockz]

The day has finally arrived and i have a very strong feeling the CFC has bounced back to where it should be.
Play a full four quarters and we win tonight!
Do it for Doc,do it for the Carlton faithful,do it for yourselves!
Bring home the chocolates Baggers!!

 

[AceAndy]

What a great day. Grandchild number two born on the day we smash the Tigers by 8 goals.

 

[mickelboy182]

Bit alarming a midfielder taken at 3 without any major injury issues hasn't come on... Even less than SPS.

 

[JustaBattler]

It is all up to Dow to build on his natural attributes in a way that actually converts into a team system of play. No doubt the pressure is on but he will get an opportunity to earn his place given the whole COVID mess.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Can I get a tick for being a champion bloke?

.......There.....ya happy now?

 

[TBellicious]

who plays on dusty when he goes forward

 

[Coops93]

Bit alarming a midfielder taken at 3 without any major injury issues hasn't come on... Even less than SPS.

It happens. Draft busts happen every year.

 

[gab213]

Led by Patrick on St Patrick's Day, Carlton by 17.